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Vanity - Don't waste your money on "Jack Ryan" (Spoiler alert)

Posted on 01/18/2014 9:35:54 PM PST by Perdogg

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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; GeronL; Bender2; Perdogg

I don’t think I’ve seen a single Tatum picture. He seems boring to me, everything you say.

Pine is far from Shatner, (probably the finest example of that “hammy” style of acting) but I thought he was decent in NuTrek, he was far from the biggest problem. I think the character they did best with was McCoy. Great action, very watchable films (especially the first one, Alice Eve’s t*ts are easily the best thing about the 2nd one) but many many problems.

It would be hard not to do better than George Lucas did with the putrid prequels I but I gotta worry about what JJ Abrams will do to Star Wars, can’t say I’m a fan of his.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTfBH-XFdSc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B22Uy7SBe4

Have you seen these “Honest Trailers”? They have them for a lot of movies, hilarious.


81 posted on 01/19/2014 2:47:03 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: EveningStar; POWERSBOOTHEFAN; GOPsterinMA; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; Impy; GeronL; ...
>> two bads were Ryan mentioning as he is being recruited that the CIA is not very well liked because of waterboarding and rendition. Well, most college aged kids were taught that, so it is not surprising, even though it was wrong, and it was those programs that netted us bin Laden. <<

If you're familiar with Tom Clancy's political leanings and his writing, that scene sounds like pretty much like a slap in the face to the late author, and 180 degrees away from how he'd want Jack Ryan written. Clancy was a staunch Reagan guy and got in numerous clashes with Harrison Ford during film because liberal Harrison Ford didn't like the way the script ended or the fact it portrayed the U.S. military in a positive light.

I've seen worse though. One person who would be spinning in his grave if he saw the movie "based on" his work is Harold Gray of the Little Orphan Annie fame. The musical "Annie" features FDR as a heroic figure that Annie and Daddy Warbucks look up and meet during the story (I think they even have a perky musical number together and sing a duet of "Tomorrow"), whereas Gray's original comics were vehemently AGAINST the New Deal and portrayed FDR's socialist policies as causing misery and ruining Daddy Warbucks.

82 posted on 01/19/2014 3:56:45 PM PST by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: BillyBoy
If you're familiar with Tom Clancy's political leanings and his writing, that scene sounds like pretty much like a slap in the face to the late author,

Well, they are also making "Animal Farm" with the bad guy as capitalism and not socialism

83 posted on 01/19/2014 4:07:30 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Impy

Star Wars: Lens Flare Empire Rises


84 posted on 01/19/2014 4:08:06 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

For real?


85 posted on 01/19/2014 7:17:36 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

That is something they are said to be working on. There was an FR thread about it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3106103/posts


86 posted on 01/19/2014 7:27:03 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: BillyBoy; Perdogg; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; GeronL
If I were a writer and my work was being tuned into a movie I would, take the money the and run with no questions asked. ;p

But Clancy must be rolling over in his grave. Russians, RUSSIANS? I hate feeling sorry for the Russians but why are they usually the stock replacement terrorists for MUSLIMs? In Dearborn Michigan to boot?

How about at least making it the ****ing Chinese instead?Don't wanna offend them either? The musical "Annie" features FDR as a heroic figure that Annie and Daddy Warbucks look up and meet during the story (I think they even have a perky musical number together and sing a duet of "Tomorrow"), whereas Gray's original comics were vehemently AGAINST the New Deal and portrayed FDR's socialist policies as causing misery and ruining Daddy Warbucks.

Interesting. That must have pissed the author off.

87 posted on 01/19/2014 7:53:33 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: GeronL

Unreal!


88 posted on 01/19/2014 7:55:43 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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>> Interesting. That must have pissed the author off. <<

It would have, except Harold Gray died in '68, and the musical version of Annie debuted in '77. ;-)

89 posted on 01/19/2014 8:06:19 PM PST by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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FYI, here’s some background information about Harold Gray and “Little Orphan Annie’s” political leanings that I took from Wikipedia (sorry, I’m lazy tonight). Bet you never knew the cutesy little redheaded musical was originally a staunch voice of conservative ideology:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Orphan_Annie

Harold Lincoln Gray (January 20, 1894 – May 9, 1968) was an American cartoonist, best known as the creator of the newspaper comic strip Little Orphan Annie. He is considered to be the first American cartoonist to use a comic strip to express a political philosophy.

Gray, whose politics seem to have been broadly conservative and libertarian with a decided populist streak, introduced some of his more controversial storylines. He would look into the darker aspects of human nature, such as greed and treachery. His hostility toward labor unions was dramatized in the 1935 story “Eonite”. Other targets were the New Deal, communism, and corrupt businessmen.[9]

By the 1930s, Little Orphan Annie had evolved from a crudely drawn melodrama to a crisply rendered atmospheric story with novelistic plot threads. The dialogue consisted mainly of meditations on Gray’s own deeply conservative political philosophy. Gray made no secret of his dislike for the New Deal ways of President Franklin Roosevelt and would often decry unions and other things he saw as impediments to the hard-working American way of life.

In November 1932 Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected President and proposed his New Deal. Many, including Gray, saw this and other programs as government interference in private enterprise. Gray railed against Roosevelt and his programs.

Gray even killed Daddy Warbucks off in 1945, believing that Warbucks could not coexist in the world with FDR. But following FDR’s death, Gary resurrected Warbucks, who said to Annie, “Somehow I feel that the climate here has changed since I went away.”[4] Annie’s life was complicated by not only thugs and gangsters but by New Deal do-gooders and bureaucrats. Organized labor was feared by businessmen and Gray took their side.

Some writers and editors took issue with this strip’s criticisms of FDR’s New Deal and 1930s labor unionism. The New Republic described Annie as “Hooverism in the Funnies”, arguing that Gray’s strip was defending utility company bosses then being investigated by the government.[5] The Herald Dispatch of Huntington, West Virginia stopped running Little Orphan Annie, printing a front page editorial rebuking Gray’s politics.[6] A subsequent New Republic editorial praised the paper’s move,[7] and The Nation likewise voiced its support.[8]

Gray was especially critical of the justice system, which he saw as not doing enough to deal with criminals. Thus, some of his storylines featured people taking the law into their own hands. This happened as early as 1927 in an adventure named “The Haunted House”. Annie is kidnapped by a gangster called Mister Mack. Warbucks rescues her and takes Mack and his gang into custody. He then contacts a local senator who owes him a favor. Warbucks persuades the politician to use his influence with the judge and make sure that the trial goes their way and that Mack and his men get their just desserts. Annie questions the use of such methods but concludes, “With all th’ crooks usin’ pull an’ money to get off, I guess ‘bout th’ only way to get ‘em punished is for honest police like Daddy to use pull an’ money an’ gun-men, too, an’ beat them at their own game.”


Last I heard, Will Smith wanted to remake the musical so he daughter Willow would play the title role, moving the source material even further away from its roots.

Here’s an idea... Hollywood loves all these “dark and gritty reboots” that take characters back to basics. How about a serious, NON musical version of Annie that accurately captures the tone and themes of the original 1930s comic strip, and presents conservative ideas to kids in a family film? Unfortunately I think we all know it would have to be self-funded, or it would be made when hell freezes over. Liberals went nuts with the Ted Cruz coloring book. Imagine how they’d react to an movie version of “Annie” that was actually accurate? It’s a hard knock life, indeed. ;-)


90 posted on 01/19/2014 8:32:58 PM PST by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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And here’s just how much liberals corrupted Gray’s work when they turned it into a musical:

Annie - New Deal for Christmas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRu1lzQ8DLo


91 posted on 01/19/2014 8:52:17 PM PST by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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Kevin Costner waiting on Obama's call

Michelle Obama to join Kevin Costner in voter rallies

92 posted on 01/19/2014 10:49:30 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

They work together to propagandize us. It’s something RINOs need to learn about because they’ve been working overtime to bash the tea party and conservatives - biting the hands that feed them.


93 posted on 01/19/2014 10:51:47 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: BillyBoy

Is it just me,or does Cruz look a lot like Bill Murray?


94 posted on 01/19/2014 11:19:13 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: BillyBoy

They do not need to make a new “Annie”. I hope Will Smith does not go through with that plan.


95 posted on 01/19/2014 11:23:33 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: I-ambush

Red October wasn’t my favorite; but it was the first, and what a first! I’ve read spy/war novels for nearly 50 years, and this, when it came out, topped them all. And it was pristine—no situations, no language I couldn’t read aloud if I had to. Heck, there wasn’t a single female in 400+ pages.


96 posted on 01/20/2014 4:40:22 PM PST by Mach9
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To: Impy

And a Hell of a lot more entertaining!


97 posted on 01/21/2014 5:21:19 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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Speaking of FDR, at least they have a commie playing a commie:

http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-lifestyle/ci_24911842/veteran-actor-ed-asner-reflects-fdr-role-lifes?source=rss


98 posted on 01/21/2014 5:30:53 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Did you see that Huffinglue Post “journalist” calling names in the comments section of people identifying Asner as what he has self-identified as ? Hysterical.


99 posted on 01/21/2014 5:56:56 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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No, but I’ll check it out. Danke.


100 posted on 01/21/2014 6:03:54 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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