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Lone Fan Tackles the N.F.L. Over Super Bowl Ticket Prices
The New York Times ^ | 31 Jan 2014 | ALAN FEUER

Posted on 02/01/2014 8:33:09 AM PST by Theoria

Josh Finkelman’s quest for Super Bowl justice began on a Monday in December with the click of a computer mouse. The day before, a busy football Sunday, the Seattle Seahawks had demolished the St. Louis Rams and the sport’s postseason landscape was finally shaping up.

Mr. Finkelman, who is from New Jersey, was entertaining friends that night at his home in New Brunswick, a 40-minute drive from the site of the approaching championship game: MetLife Stadium in the Meadowlands Sports Complex. It was, as he remembered, your basic guys’ night in — beers and ESPN.

“We were talking about the Super Bowl,” he said the other day, “and how I really wanted a ticket. One of my buddies said, ‘Don’t waste your time — they’re too expensive.’ But at some point, you have to commit to the decision. You have to say, ‘I really want to go.’ ”

And so he switched on his computer and did what thousands of sports fans did in recent weeks: He went to the National Football League’s website and embarked upon a hunt. The site referred him to Ticketmaster, the league’s official broker, where he found to his chagrin that his friend was right: Even “cheap” seats for the game were already selling at astronomical prices. Logging on to StubHub.com, he discovered much the same.

Mr. Finkelman, 28 and the president of a warehouse business in Dayton, N.J., described himself as “a pretty good online shopper,” but it was not until he tried his third or fourth service, GotTheTicket.com, that he finally found a deal that he could live with: a pair of nosebleed seats, in a lonesome upper deck, for $2,000 apiece.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: newjersey; nfl; superbowl; ticket
Looks like the NFL might have broken NJ law.

'Section 56:8-35.1 of the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act reads:

“It shall be an unlawful practice for a person, who has access to tickets to an event prior to the tickets’ release for sale to the general public, to withhold those tickets from sale to the general public in an amount exceeding 5 percent of all available seating for the event.”

While certainly a mouthful, to Mr. Finkelman and Mr. Nagel this passage from the law explicitly forbids the N.F.L.’s practice of providing only 1 percent of Super Bowl tickets for sale to the public. In fact, it would seem to dictate that 95 percent of the seats must be sold that way. '

1 posted on 02/01/2014 8:33:09 AM PST by Theoria
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To: Theoria

$2000 for a cheap seat ticket to watch millionaires chase an elongated ball in a billion dollar stadium built with taxpayer money...


2 posted on 02/01/2014 8:36:30 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana
$2000 for a cheap seat ticket to watch millionaires chase an elongated ball in a billion dollar stadium built with taxpayer money...


3 posted on 02/01/2014 8:38:34 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation

What a state.


4 posted on 02/01/2014 8:46:02 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Take out the trash)
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To: Theoria
The site referred him to Ticketmaster, the league’s official broker ...

The Super Bowl lasts only a few hours, but he'll be subscribed to Rolling Stone for the rest of his life.

5 posted on 02/01/2014 8:47:37 AM PST by Tax-chick (... for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead ...)
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To: Theoria

Whle I agree with him that “the law” is not being followed, I disagree that the government should “do something about it”.

If the free market dictates that there are people willing to pay $2000 for a rare item then so be it.

What this shows to me is the failure, once again, of The Government in trying to impart a solution, as all government solutions that try to change the natural laws of supply and demand are doomed to be.

(like in health care)


6 posted on 02/01/2014 8:58:27 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Theoria

Not sure how I feel about this. If they go on sale to the general public then there will be brokers who will buy up tons of tickets at face value and then turn around and scalp them. You’re in the same boat but now you’re dealing with those who might not be as well regulated. I guess you can put limits on how many tickets one person can buy but then people will have surrogates, etc. etc.


7 posted on 02/01/2014 8:59:20 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Theoria

Not sure how I feel about this. If they go on sale to the general public then there will be brokers who will buy up tons of tickets at face value and then turn around and scalp them. You’re in the same boat but now you’re dealing with those who might not be as well regulated. I guess you can put limits on how many tickets one person can buy but then people will have surrogates, etc. etc.


8 posted on 02/01/2014 8:59:22 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Mr. K

Homeland security can get on this after they round up all the knock off jerseys.


9 posted on 02/01/2014 8:59:28 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Mr. K
We don't live in a free market. If I had a business in NJ i would have to comply with their law, the same should apply to the NFL.

Allow the person the chance to purchase the ticket at face value, if not he can purchase it at the value someone else is willing to sell it at. But, as of now, he never had the chance to do that[face value].

10 posted on 02/01/2014 9:03:01 AM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Theoria

He should have waited to make his purchase since the average ticket price is now about $1,100 which is only a few hundred more than what season ticket holders are paying.


11 posted on 02/01/2014 9:04:36 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Theoria

“...the N.F.L.’s practice of providing only 1 percent of Super Bowl tickets for sale to the public.”

Holy cow. I guess you can get away with this when you hold your ultimate game in a location where the majority of the people living there don’t usually have a vested interest in either team?

Freegards


12 posted on 02/01/2014 9:04:50 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Mr. K
Whle I agree with him that “the law” is not being followed, I disagree that the government should “do something about it”.

You're actually arguing that the law itself is illegitimate, rather than the NFL's behavior, right? That's the only way I see to parse what you said.

13 posted on 02/01/2014 9:27:15 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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To: DouglasKC

Good God! Why should any buyer or seller of any ticket to any sporting event ever be regulated in any way whatsoever?


14 posted on 02/01/2014 9:28:43 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: Theoria

I get better seats in my house and it doesn’t cost 2000 dollars.


15 posted on 02/01/2014 9:47:34 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend

The beer is cheaper, the food is better and no lines for the bathrooms.
Plus you have bed handy.


16 posted on 02/01/2014 10:20:29 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Theoria

1470 currently available on StubHub

http://www.stubhub.com/super-bowl-tickets/2014-super-bowl-east-rutherford-metlife-stadium-2-2-2014-4332573/?osid=hp_bb_geodefault-super-bowl-tickets2014-super-bowl-east-rutherford-metlife-stadium-2-2-2014-4332573


17 posted on 02/01/2014 10:26:38 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Theoria; Revolting cat!

The good seats for events are rarely ever in the computer, even before any “pre-sale password” sales have occurred.

In the old days, they would be set aside as “promotional” and sold on the sly from persons working within the front office.

Now Ticketmaster owns their own ticket scalping agency. As if having the exclusive contract on the civic venues (through Live Nation), etc wasn’t enough of an edge in business dealings.


18 posted on 02/01/2014 10:38:23 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Mr. K

They are government owned venues funded by taxpayers. That is why there should be accountablity.


19 posted on 02/01/2014 10:39:20 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: morphing libertarian
Homeland security can get on this after they round up all the knock off jerseys.

HLS has to tackle (get it?) those posting unlicensed Super Bowl(TM) images online first.

Hold on, someone's at the door...

20 posted on 02/01/2014 10:42:51 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: a fool in paradise

what the hell is that thang?


21 posted on 02/01/2014 10:44:55 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

A freeze frame of Beyonce at last year’s half time show. People say she’s sexy.


22 posted on 02/01/2014 10:54:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: a fool in paradise

OMG!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 02/01/2014 10:55:07 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: a fool in paradise

Anybody can look like an ogre in a freeze frame. Unfortunately, I have that certain ability to look like that all the time.


24 posted on 02/01/2014 10:58:27 AM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: a fool in paradise

She also takes money from terrorists.


25 posted on 02/01/2014 11:00:24 AM PST by Fair Paul
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To: Theoria

Say, what? Just a couple days ago there was a thread on FR that they couldn’t be given away.


26 posted on 02/01/2014 11:19:22 AM PST by bgill
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To: a fool in paradise

theres another problem right there...
why are these ‘government owned venues’ in the first place...

NFL not make enough money to build stadiums?


27 posted on 02/01/2014 3:44:47 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Mr. K

“If the free market dictates that there are people willing to pay $2000 for a rare item then so be it.”

I’m not a CPA, so maybe someone can answer this. If a business buys one of these tickets or package deals and either gives them to a valued client, or as a reward to an employee for services rendered (eg. top salesman), can the company write the tickets off as a business expenditure? If so, it sounds like Joe Average whose priced out of the game also has to make up the difference with his own taxes. Is this correct?


28 posted on 02/01/2014 4:38:19 PM PST by Exeter (A government that doesn't trust its people is a government that shouldn't be trusted.)
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To: Exeter

yes! Ain’t government rules grand?


29 posted on 02/01/2014 4:59:55 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Mr. K
theres another problem right there... why are these ‘government owned venues’ in the first place... NFL not make enough money to build stadiums?

It's crony fascism/capitalism.

In Houston the city paid $300million to build a football stadium (also used for concerts, rodeo and other events). The football team owner then sold the naming rights to OUR stadium for $300million to the local power company (that funds it from local electric rates) and got to keep the money.

Rape my wallet, please.

30 posted on 02/01/2014 7:17:01 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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