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Homeless Man Recovering After Apparent Mountain Lion Attack (CA)
NBC 4 So CA ^ | January 2, 2014 | Andrew Lopez

Posted on 02/02/2014 2:27:26 PM PST by jazusamo

Traps have been put in place to capture the lion

Authorities are hoping to speak Sunday to a 50-year-old homeless man who suffered severe injuries in an apparent mountain lion attack in Perris.

An emergency call was placed around 8 a.m. Saturday morning of a man suffering injuries to his face, chest, head and arms, according to Dan Sforza, assistant chief of the California Department of Fish and Wildlife.

The man, who was injured near a makeshift shelter near Highway 74 and Navajo Road, was taken to a hospital where he underwent surgery, Sforza said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbclosangeles.com ...


TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: attack; california; cougar; mountainlion

1 posted on 02/02/2014 2:27:26 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: george76; Flycatcher; Inyo-Mono

Mountain lion attack Ping.

Highway 74 and Navajo Road is very close to residences.


2 posted on 02/02/2014 2:30:36 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

There are neighborhoods all over the place around the intersection, and the High school is less than a mile from that intersection.


3 posted on 02/02/2014 2:37:27 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

Thanks...I just checked a google map and it looked like it’s well within city limits, I haven’t been in that area for over 40 years.


4 posted on 02/02/2014 2:41:52 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

Glad, but it seems odd the cat didn’t kill him.


5 posted on 02/02/2014 2:43:21 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: umgud

I’d say it’s a miracle going by the description of his wounds unless there were one or more homeless people that helped him. I checked a lot of articles but there’s little information as yet being released.


6 posted on 02/02/2014 2:48:56 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

I don’t understand why they give Tablet devices to homeless people anyway .....


7 posted on 02/02/2014 2:50:30 PM PST by mikrofon (+ Prayers Up +)
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8 posted on 02/02/2014 2:56:05 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

I had a dream about a mountain lion last night. In a swollen river, struggling to make it....dark colored fur.


9 posted on 02/02/2014 3:06:49 PM PST by onona (The entitlement army doesnÂ’t vote for candidates, they vote for gravy.)
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To: jazusamo
I never sleep out in the wilderness without a knife nearby. Sounds like the homeless guy could have used one.

Thanks for the Ping, Jaz!

10 posted on 02/02/2014 3:07:44 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Pox

“and the High school is less than a mile from that intersection.”

Scott Lancaster was killed and partly eaten by a mountain lion within sight of the high school he attended. Operation Desert Storm opened the same day and the NatureNazi’s in media happily spiked the story.

I asked for a copy of the crime scene video under the Colorado Open Records Act and received a VHS copy that had been copied and recopied until it was very un-sharp.

The actual autopsy photos were never provided.

The cat first stripped off the face and scalp, then neatly opened the chest and ate the organs.

Were any business to have sold a product that killed a person every year or two, and mutilated many more, litigation would soon end the problem. When the Gubment and its AgencyPersons quarter dangerous beasts on the public, the Courts do nothing.

Courts support their paymasters, Big Gubment and their decisions tend to prove that just as “Who Pays The Piper Call The Tune” who pays the Marsupial Magistrates decides their cases.


11 posted on 02/02/2014 3:17:07 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping jazusamo. I haven’t been in that area for well over 40 years either. Used to go rabbit hunting in the hills nearby. Little tiny town back then.

Haven’t seen any mountain lion tracks near my house in a couple months now.


12 posted on 02/02/2014 3:24:28 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: jazusamo

This whole story is one big lie. We have a Democrat President and California has a Democrat Governor. There aren’t any homeless people.


13 posted on 02/02/2014 3:28:14 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Inyo-Mono

Rabbit hunting is why we used to go to that area also and there were lots of ‘em.

I’d bet your mountain lions are still around and you’ll see their tracks, but you know that and you’re ready for them. :-)


14 posted on 02/02/2014 3:31:07 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: blueunicorn6

Both of those RATS would swear your right. :)


15 posted on 02/02/2014 3:32:50 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

Don’t blame me. I voted to repeal the ban on mountain lion hunting in this idiotic State.


16 posted on 02/02/2014 3:34:09 PM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: Redcloak

That has to be one of the idiotic things the voters did, we’d moved out before they voted to protect them.


17 posted on 02/02/2014 3:37:24 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

He stunk too muck to be eaten.


18 posted on 02/02/2014 3:38:52 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: jazusamo
Prop. 117 was passed in 1990 and banned lion hunting in the State. A few years later, Prop. 197 would have repealed this idiotic ban and allowed the DFG to do their job and use actual science to manage the State's lion population. Instead, morons voters who watched Bambi a few too many times were allowed to dictate policy.
19 posted on 02/02/2014 3:48:16 PM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: jazusamo

Always ready for ‘em.


20 posted on 02/02/2014 4:10:31 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: knarf

Knarfster, it is Monday morning here, and I am watching the Super Bowl live. It is 8 to 0 right now. We don’t see the same commercials you do. EVERYTIME there is a commercial break so far, they have this ridiculous global warming commercial, I mean EVERYTIME. What a bunch of lemmings.


21 posted on 02/02/2014 4:16:03 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: jazusamo; Flycatcher

They can not see what caused the injuries to his face, chest, head and arms ? Hint : large teeth and claw marks ?

How about tracks nearby ?

or hair, blood, etc. left behind ?

Must be chair sitters who never gets out of the office.


22 posted on 02/02/2014 5:09:12 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; Flycatcher

Exactly...The powers that be seem to be intentionally not saying much about this, hopefully more will be said when he can talk.

In one other article I read it did say he suffered punctures at the base of his skull so it didn’t take a genius to figure out it was a mountain lion attack.


23 posted on 02/02/2014 5:24:03 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: GladesGuru
The cat first stripped off the face and scalp...

That reminded me of a post I made some months ago, noting that I have a second home in another state in a locale where there have been reports of cougar sightings. One Freeper advised that these cats prefer to wait in the lower limbs of a tree and then as you walk under it, leap onto you and start clawing and biting at your face. The Freeper then helpfully suggested that while the cat is doing this, you reach for your gun and blast it.

OK, got that. While my face is being ripped apart I calmly and methodically draw my gun and--yep, got it.

24 posted on 02/02/2014 5:52:41 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: george76

We’ve sighted mountain lions much more frequently around my place. Daytime sightings have been increasingly more common for a couple of years. I don’t know why, but they are multiplying. And as they become more numerous, they’re more aggressive and reluctant to leave.


25 posted on 02/02/2014 6:56:28 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

The predator populations are expanding all over ?

We are no longer on the top of that food chain. Pets, children and smaller adults will be next.


26 posted on 02/02/2014 7:04:16 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: OldPossum

They usually try to strike the back of the neck after running at high speed and leaping from the ground. A typical adult mountain lion is capable of jumping over the back of a running elk from behind and breaking its neck in one bite. The best defense for a human being is awareness, carrying a light and being able to quickly and accurately point shoot with a pistol.

That said, mountain lions attack pet dogs and livestock more often than people (something not so often seen in the news). Maybe they don’t quite know how to attack human beings. Not sure about that one.

Another thing: people don’t hear them growling much (or “screaming like a woman”), as is heard from movies and told in tales. They do make other sounds but not very often around the houses of people. They most often make a very quick/short screeching or squawking noise and repeat it quite a few times—not a very high pitched noise but not low pitched, either. They sound more like some kind of bird, more like a crow than anything else that I know of.

I’ve heard them making that noise many nights over the years and have seen them with lights a few times, when they made it. Haven’t heard them make any noise at all when sighted during the day. When sighted during the day, they just walk along in a leisurely way (sometimes calmly walking faster than a person can run). When they’re stalking without having been seen first at night, they’re silent, of course.


27 posted on 02/02/2014 7:19:10 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: george76

They’re expanding up the hill from you for sure. I’ll send a PM.


28 posted on 02/02/2014 7:21:30 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

Thanks for the post. Interesting info.

The only thing that I would take issue with is this, and it may not be accurate since a lot of time has gone by, but I seem to have a sharp recollection of it. When out coon hunting with my grandfather back in the late 40s I remember hearing this horrible screech (or scream) from a ledge up above us and I asked Grandpa, “What’s that?” and he said it was a mountain lion but not to worry since we had lots of dogs with us.


29 posted on 02/02/2014 7:47:01 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

Oh, I should add that it was nighttime.


30 posted on 02/02/2014 7:47:44 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

The sounds they make might have something to do with various situations. They do make a higher pitched scream of longer duration somewhat like a woman opera singer, but I’ve only heard that one in sound files—not in person. In person, I’ve only heard the quick, lower pitched, hoarse sounding screeches, when they were prowling around in nearby fields at night.

By the way, I wrote “crow” earlier. Folks around here correct me with the name, raven, for those bigger birds. What I’ve heard from mountain lions was much quicker, coarse sounding, forced sounding (like they exhaled a lot to make the sound) and more high pitched than a raven but not like a woman opera singer issuing a long, high note.

Could be that I’m lacking good comparisons for a description, too. Maybe a recording would help, and I’ll try to remember that the next time the big cats come around.


31 posted on 02/02/2014 9:15:22 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

We have them come through the ranch from time to time, got one of them about 10 years ago. Seen one last summer but I didn’t have enough time to get a shot off. He was a yearling male about 75 to 80 lbs. The Aoudad sheep have moved back on to the ranch so I suspect we’ll be seeing more. Aoudads like the mountains and so do the big cat’s. Heard one scream one night when the wife and I were fishing one of the big ponds, my first reponse was that’s a female and she’s in heat. Anybody thats ever had a female house cat go into heat knows what I’m taking about. Our cats don’t get as big as the northern cat’s, a big male might go 135 to 150 lbs. Didn’t weigh the one I shot but I guessed him at about 100 lbs.


32 posted on 02/03/2014 3:52:15 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: familyop

Keep in touch. I find this to be a fascinating subject.


33 posted on 02/03/2014 4:06:38 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Dusty Road

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM2Sw8dsMDQ

Female mountain lion in heat.


34 posted on 02/03/2014 4:11:43 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Dusty Road

Mountain Lion and Mule Deer buck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeOWbPBNYPE


35 posted on 02/03/2014 4:14:00 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: GladesGuru

http://beastinthegarden.com/Photos.html#14


36 posted on 02/03/2014 7:40:10 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

mountain lion prefers free-range humans


37 posted on 02/03/2014 7:41:09 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: OldPossum

“OK, got that. While my face is being ripped apart I calmly and methodically draw my gun and—yep, got it.”
Hopefully, you will be in shock for the first few seconds - long enough to draw, push the muzzle against fur and fire repeatedly.

The reason they go for face bites is their lips close off any breathing by you while they can breath through their nose.

Shoot rapidly, before a lack of air and cat breath causes you to black out.

Remember: MAULED IS BETTER THAN EATEN.


38 posted on 02/03/2014 7:58:38 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Dusty Road

Thank you for the insights. I’ll look into the predation regulations for protecting livestock, and see what I can do, too. I don’t know that they’ll be any problem after we finish the fencing, corral, squeeze chute and get some yaks, though. Yaks tend to be aggressive against predators.

Regular cattle require too much hay (more expensive to transport from hay country up to this part of the Rockies). It’s too cold and windy here for cattle (-30s, gusts up to 110 mph or so), and the ice gets too deep. With new laws and much of the CO population being from the northeast and west coast, even open range grazing for larger herds is going away.


39 posted on 02/03/2014 1:59:58 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Dusty Road; OldPossum
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM2Sw8dsMDQ

Female mountain lion in heat.
"

Thanks, Dusty Road! OldPossum, that's the sound we've heard so many times at night. Hopefully, you can listen to a Youtube file and hear that.

So they were calling for mates around the place after all! Pardon my descriptions earlier. It's difficult to find comparisons to put into words. Still think they sound more like some kind of bird, though. ;-)


40 posted on 02/03/2014 2:09:10 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: GeronL

Hee Hee, they must be healthy eating...


41 posted on 02/03/2014 2:46:32 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: familyop

Yaks, now thats interesting. The things we get ourselves into, bought a couple of young bison bulls. Picked up some longhorn heifers last month, no telling what I’m fixing to get into.


42 posted on 02/03/2014 3:31:44 PM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Dusty Road

Yep. Yaks are mean but probably not as much so as bison, and they don’t require more than 4 1/2 feet of good fence (fence higher than a big bull’s eyeballs with at least an extra strand or two). We like using Kiwi braces with some extra line posts. Buffalo...I wouldn’t know what to do with ‘em. ;-)


43 posted on 02/03/2014 5:04:57 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

I appreciate Dusty Road posting that. Unfortunately, my sound has stopped working. Will bookmark this thread and get back to it as soon as I can fix it.


44 posted on 02/03/2014 5:07:57 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: george76
They can not see what caused the injuries to his face, chest, head and arms ?

Hint : large teeth and claw marks ?

How about tracks nearby ?

or hair, blood, etc. left behind ?

Must be chair sitters who never gets out of the office.

They don't want to leap to conclusions about what attacked him, however.....

DNA samples have been collected to match the lion if it is captured, according to a news release from the Riverside Sheriff’s Department.

45 posted on 02/03/2014 8:51:38 PM PST by eartrumpet
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