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To: DoodleDawg

Obviously we disagree on the provocation. I agree the retired cop should not have shot the text dude. Under the circumstances based on what’s public, I still think it was justified.

Self defense is in the mind of the person facing an attack. Once the text dude got up and turned around things escalated fast. The man was reportedly 6’ 4” tall and almost thirty years younger than the retired cop. I can see where the old guy may have felt threatened. Who but the “me” generation jumps up and gets hostile over a cellphone conversation with a daycare center?


47 posted on 02/07/2014 12:51:25 PM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf
I agree the retired cop should not have shot the text dude. Under the circumstances based on what’s public, I still think it was justified

If you don't think he should have done it the how can it be justified?

Self defense is in the mind of the person facing an attack. Once the text dude got up and turned around things escalated fast. The man was reportedly 6’ 4” tall and almost thirty years younger than the retired cop. I can see where the old guy may have felt threatened.

Feeling threatened is not justification for shooting someone. Florida's law states, "a person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force." The statute goes on to say that deadly force is lawful if a person "...believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself..."

Reeves was never in dange of imminent death or great bodily harm. He was justified in throwing a punch maybe. But not in shooting an unarmed man, especially when Reeves had provoked the confrontation to begin with.

50 posted on 02/07/2014 1:23:52 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: meatloaf
Who but the “me” generation jumps up and gets hostile over a cellphone conversation with a daycare center?

It was the old guy who got hostile over it. I don't care if the young guy cursed him; that's no excuse to shoot an unarmed man in a publc place.

51 posted on 02/07/2014 1:30:36 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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