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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 6 FEBRUARY 7, 2014
Free Republic | February 7, 2014 | greeneyes

Posted on 02/07/2014 12:31:57 PM PST by greeneyes

CONGRATULATIONS AFRAID FOR THE REPUBLIC 55 YEARS OF MARRIED BLISS


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.

1 posted on 02/07/2014 12:31:57 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

Pinging the list.

We have warmed up to 28 degrees in our little Acre of the Show Me State. Still freezing, but not bitter freeze. Going on the 20th day of school closings or more.

Hard to convince myself that I need to plant anything. I think we’ll probably have a late spring maybe even some snow in April.

I am going to plant some lettuce and spinach and peppers for indoor snacking towards March. I have 3 ping pong size lemons on the indoor plant, and it is getting ready to bloom again lots of buds all over. The scent will be heavenly for a few weeks once they start blooming.

Have a great weekend, stay safe, and stay warm. God Bless.


2 posted on 02/07/2014 12:37:49 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Freezing here in central Texas, but we’ve been eating fresh turnips and broccoli for several weeks. It hasn’t gotten out of the 30s for three days.


3 posted on 02/07/2014 12:37:52 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
its horrendously cold here in Eastern Washington after a fairly mild winter....-14 on the way to work 2 mornings ago...think its in the teens right now....

still, the garden beckons....always hoping that THIS WILL BE THE YEAR for the perfect garden....

4 posted on 02/07/2014 12:39:51 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: greeneyes
Cold here in Cincinnati. Got down to 1 degree last night, warms up to 20 today and then down to 2 again tonight. We won't see 25 degrees for a week.

Which leads me to ask a gardening question.

My dad used to say extended cold streaks would kill insect eggs. Any proof of this? Can we expect less insects this year?

5 posted on 02/07/2014 12:40:32 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...

2cnd ping attempt.


6 posted on 02/07/2014 12:41:58 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Fresh anything sounds good right now.LOL


7 posted on 02/07/2014 12:43:31 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: cherry

Perfection is not needed as long as I can get some corn, taters and maters.LOL


8 posted on 02/07/2014 12:44:22 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: cherry

Our daughter and SIL live in Wichita KA, and are looking at moving back to Texas. He is from there, but had been in Houston for several years when they met. Neither can stand the single digit temps.


9 posted on 02/07/2014 12:45:04 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

We have been below zero most of this week and with the wind chill thrown in—like I said bitter freezing cold.

I have no scientific research on the subject, but I would agree with your Dad. It seems to me we usually have more pesky insects when the winters are warmer than usual.


10 posted on 02/07/2014 12:47:10 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

It’s just above freezing here in North Carolina. I have my Jiffy 72-cell mini-greenhouse outside in the sun. 54 broccoli sprouts, 6 red cabbage, 12 pointy-head cabbage.

In the raised beds the spinach is going well. I have onions and garlic out there too, planted in early November.

Mid-February I’ll put out the broccoli and cabbages, and sow garden peas and maybe turnips and radishes.


11 posted on 02/07/2014 12:47:44 PM PST by steerpike100
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To: greeneyes
I have 3 ping pong size lemons on the indoor plant, and it is getting ready to bloom again lots of buds all over. The scent will be heavenly for a few weeks once they start blooming.

That sounds heavenly- much better than what my house probably smells like after having it all shut up for what seems like weeks.

12 posted on 02/07/2014 12:48:02 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: greeneyes

I didn’t save any seeds this year because I was busy with baby. I started over with Baker Creek seeds. I love their catalogue, and I hope I love their product as well.


13 posted on 02/07/2014 12:49:20 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: greeneyes
It's been in the 20s all week here. I've been inside. Lots of stuff in the sun window is sprouting and making me wish spring were here.

It may warm up tomorrow, but it looks like we've got another nasty week of winter ahead of us.

/johnny

14 posted on 02/07/2014 12:55:07 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: goodwithagun
because I was busy with baby.

That's a valid reason. ;)

/johnny

15 posted on 02/07/2014 12:56:24 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes
It's 29 degrees here in Massachusetts. I had planned to start some seeds this month, but I'm currently housebreaking a puppy who turned 9 weeks old today. That complicates things.

This is Frankie:

I'm thinking of investing in some larger, raised containers for the deck. It would make caring for my plants so much easier. This was actually my husband's idea.

16 posted on 02/07/2014 12:57:58 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: sockmonkey; Marcella; SisterK

The rebel tobacco plant is doing great. Baseball glove shown for scale.

The catz have taken to hanging around it like it's a jungle or something. Sneak attack from behind the tobacco plant has moved up to #1 on the chart.

/johnny

17 posted on 02/07/2014 12:58:54 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: steerpike100

I have some onions, garlic, lettuce, spinach that I planted last fall too, but I haven’t ventured out. It’s covered with a double layer of row cloth, and Hubby put out lots of straw on top of it.

I don’t have much hope for anything other than the garlic and maybe the onion, because it has been so cold, and we haven’t had enough sunshine. Usually I can get several days of moderate weather and sunshine to uncover it during the winter, but not this year.


18 posted on 02/07/2014 12:59:24 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: sockmonkey

I was just reading a book on things to do to help you age better and live longer.

One thing they talked about was the indoor air pollution. They advise opeining the windows at least once a week, no matter what the weather.

They obviously ain’t from Missouri, or any states north of Missouri. LOL


19 posted on 02/07/2014 1:06:07 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: goodwithagun; Black Agnes

I have been very pleased with their products. I love the catalog, and since they are headquartered in Missouri near my home town, I get kinda warm and fuzzy feelings when I order something.LOL

Another very impressive seed company is Southern Exposure Seed Exchange. Very fast service. Peanuts all sprouted and did well, whereas not a single one from one of the other catalogs sprouted. Black Agnes was the one that told me about it. I plan to order potatoes and maybe some other stuff from them this year too.


20 posted on 02/07/2014 1:11:11 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I stuck my head out once to see where the dog was, and hollered at her to hurry up.LOL


21 posted on 02/07/2014 1:12:29 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: trisham

It sure does make a difference. I have a retaining wall on the hillside at the edge of my patio. I can stand on the patio, put supplies on the concrete blocks and reach over to weed the garden, water it or pick produce without bending over on most of the plots.

It sure makes a difference not only on the back, but on motivation.LOL


22 posted on 02/07/2014 1:15:49 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That’s a very attractive plant. Might be a good thing to grow upstairs, where plants tend to get forgotten. LOL

Hubby would think I had lost my mind, since neither of us smoke.


23 posted on 02/07/2014 1:17:50 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; goodwithagun

I have had excellent luck with seeds from Baker Creek, Southern Exposure, and Sandhill Preservation. I have had excellent luck with plants from Jungs.

I have had very good luck with Jungs, Totally Tomato, and Johnny’s.

Probably others I can’t think of right now.

One suggestion I always make to people who’re investing in the OP seeds is to buy the book ‘Seed to Seed’ by Ashcroft. Even if you’re not thinking of saving seed from the challenging stuff (broccoli, onions, etc) right now it’s a good handy reference to have. The info will still be useful 20 years from now as it’s basic biology.

One other thing to invest in is some of the drawstring organza gift bags. I got mine from Wal-Mart. Or, you can make yours. This is how to ensure things that supposedly self pollinate like tomatoes don’t inadvertently cross. It also keeps the more promiscuous stuff from crossing (peppers, eggplants, etc).

This year I’m going to be trying to grow out my own corn (painted mountain, short season and cool weather tolerant) early on. I’ll probably invest in the corn bagging stuff that Southern Exposure sells. We all need challenges :P

J & L gardens http://www.jandlgardens.com/catalog/

has some short season peanuts I’m going to try also.


24 posted on 02/07/2014 1:18:45 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Thanks so much for all the information and advice. You always have good tips. Appreciate it.


25 posted on 02/07/2014 1:21:00 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I can appreciate a number of things now that I didn’t when I was younger. :)


26 posted on 02/07/2014 1:21:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

LOL. Ain’t it the truth!


27 posted on 02/07/2014 1:22:08 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
. Had sleet last nite, in the high 50's now, WTH's going on with this weather ,

. Finally got Texas & Valida onions at the feed store today , their in the ground . English and snow peas starting to sprout ,should be making the row in a few days. Oh it feels good to be out playing in the dirt

28 posted on 02/07/2014 1:24:29 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: greeneyes

Gardening is one of my ‘things’. It keeps me sane. And in the summer it keeps me thinner.


29 posted on 02/07/2014 1:28:36 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
J & L's tomatoes performed very well for me here in Red Hampshire...out of my near-400 varieties; their Ambrosia Red was the very last tomato plant I pulled up last October...reminds me of a red sungold...nom.

People posting here need to start saving their seeds so you can participate in garden forum seed swaps come October...lots of fun.

30 posted on 02/07/2014 1:31:08 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Black Agnes

...but sometimes you can wind up with some interesting new lines of ‘maters and peppers when they cross-pollinate...my mustard habanero crossed with a trinidad scorpion...now I have mustard habaneros with stingers...very cool.


31 posted on 02/07/2014 1:34:58 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: piroque
Texas & Valida onions = Vidalia onions , spell check finally found a word it didn't know ;)
32 posted on 02/07/2014 1:35:06 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: who knows what evil?

HOPEFULLY I will manage to save some garden stuff in spite of critters this year.

I’m glad to hear about the Ambrosia Red. I’ve got it and the Ambrosia Gold in a cart right now. Along with the very short season one they’ve got now too.


33 posted on 02/07/2014 1:37:16 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: greeneyes

We’re at 32 in the Texas Hill Country but tomorrow is supposed to be around 70 this weekend. Dug around and found some old insulated curtains and pinned them up because the bedrooms aren’t getting above 62. I bought those old things before we were married and they’ve been cut and resewn and off with the kids to college and to granny’s and back again. And people wonder why I don’t throw stuff away.

We’ve had the crud all week so I dug up a ginger root for hot tea and that’s helped tremendously.

I just about finished up another round of seeds inside but ran out of starting soil before getting the peppers potted up. I had wanted to combine the last with some potting soil but Mother Nature is still getting her jollies by putting some sort of fungus/mold on the top of the huge bag of potting soil that I’d only used enough last summer for one hanging basket.

The cabbage is very slow to germinate. It’s been 3 weeks so half may have to be reseeded. The tomatoes, broccoli, cauliflower and brussels sprouts, etc. are doing fine with only a pot or two here and there needing reseeded. But they’re not getting any sun on these cold dreary days.

Still saving gallon milk jugs in hopes of the tomatoes needing a bigger home before they go out in April.


34 posted on 02/07/2014 1:38:19 PM PST by bgill
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To: Black Agnes

I’ve got about HALF of J&L’s tomato offerings on my want list. :-)


35 posted on 02/07/2014 1:40:43 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: piroque

Joe Bastardi has said that we are in a weather pattern like the 1950’s - NOT Global Warming, which he believes is Globull BS.


36 posted on 02/07/2014 1:42:59 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

We’re at a two day high of 36 here. Grey and nasty. I went out earlier to water the pups, and it was misting a rain so fine that I couldn’t see it.

We have a few volunteer green onions coming up, about 6in tall from last year. Maybe they will be better this year.

My seeds, well, I dont have any sprouting, but one, a Boxcar Willie tomato. I suppose that is my fault for breaking my established routine. If I get no more sprouts, I will just buy more starts at the garden center when we go in about three weeks. Maybe I need the room in the garden to try some other things this year.


37 posted on 02/07/2014 1:46:32 PM PST by rightly_dividing (1st Cor. 15: 1-4)
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To: greeneyes
Tomatoes, peppers and a couple others have survived their first transplanting. Our little seed starter (from Lowes, about $40) plus grow lights and heating pads are KICKIN !

We have so much stuff started that we're beginning to think we might need a second seed starter unit. Everything is toasty, warm and humid inside this little gizmo.

38 posted on 02/07/2014 1:47:19 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Black Agnes

I agree. It’s very good for the attitude except when the squirrels intrude etc.LOL

I don’t seem to get any thinner no matter what I do, but I really do eat healthier in the summer when fresh produce is just a few steps away from the house.


39 posted on 02/07/2014 1:48:47 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Black Agnes
I’m glad to hear about the Ambrosia Red.

You may have to euthanize the plant down your way...four light frosts last October still didn't kill mine. It produces like mad.

40 posted on 02/07/2014 1:49:45 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: greeneyes; afraidfortherepublic

Congratulations on you successful marriage. I love to hear success stories like that.

My folks made it 62 years and didn’t marry till they were about 25 yo.


41 posted on 02/07/2014 1:51:20 PM PST by rightly_dividing (1st Cor. 15: 1-4)
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To: greeneyes
Joe Bastardi has said that we are in a weather pattern like the 1950’s...

Love Joe...he's NOT a GW acolyte by any stretch. Now the question...who on this thread remembers what the weather was like in the 50's?

42 posted on 02/07/2014 1:52:12 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: greeneyes; afraidfortherepublic
CONGRATULATIONS, Afraidfortherepublic!
55 is quite the milestone; here's to many more.

After 5 months sealed in a Zip-Lock bag of potting soil in the fridge drawer with no action, checking them every weekend since Christmas,I decided Wednesday was time to get rid of my failed peach pits. BEHOLD! They sprouteth! I'll give them another week or so, then start potting them.

New batch of cat grass (oat Z& wheat mixed)is up & growing like weeds. Instead of using the shallow container that comes with the kits, I used seed starter mix to fill a 2 pound coffee can, and planted them in it. Grains generally have a deep root system, so I figured this will give them more room to grow, to see if it lasts longer before dying.

We still have frigid temps, only getting into single digits for highs & down tp as much as (near-record) -25 at night; and we still have December snow in the form of an inch or so of glare ice underneath the more recent snowfalls. Almost every morning there's a new 1/4-1/2" that needs to be swept off the walks & windshields. Going through wood like gangbusters; starting to have to split & use some of next winter's that we cut summer before last. Today is an exception: no new snow last night, and up to a high of 22! On the downside, it's clouding up to give us a couple of inches tonight & tomorrow, and maybe into Sunday. By Tuesday, we're supposed to be back to highs in the 30s: YAY!

There's around 8" or so on the garden; yet last week, we went to friends in town for dinner so I could help him trim their cherry & apple trees that were starting to bud! Glad our cherries, apricots, pears and apples have more sense!

Shopko (which we don't really like, but are stuck with) had plastic containers on sale this week: 2.5 quart for $.99, with lids; and 6+ quart shoebox size for #$1.99, also with lids. I bought 3 of each to sue for seed starting late next month. They are about as deep as a 4" peat pot, so I'll just put potting soil in them, and go from there.

43 posted on 02/07/2014 1:52:17 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: greeneyes

I believe the bull part of it,, back home in La. ,son says we’ve broken an all time record of three snows(sticking to the ground) this year and another on the way .


44 posted on 02/07/2014 1:55:28 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: bgill

I’m jealous just thinking about 70 degrees. We are in for another blast of cold unless the forcast for next week changes.

We are going to have to do some serious draft reduction around here. I have been discussing it with Hubby. See I have to discuss it for quite a while, and he’ll finally say ok I’ll do that when the weather gets better.

When the weather gets better, he always has other stuff that is an excuse. Finally I get to remind him that he said he would do that when the weather got better, better is here, and when does he think he could work it into his schedule, and do I need to get any materials to help him do it?

Then it usually gets done.LOL


45 posted on 02/07/2014 1:56:16 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Me,,,I’m that old fart you always hear about.


46 posted on 02/07/2014 1:57:35 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: greeneyes

—I don’t seem to get any thinner no matter what I do—

One doctor has me dieting, another puts me on steroids!

I got up at 11:30 one night last week and made biscuits, eggs and link sausage. Wife got up and come in “I thought I was dreaming, smelling sausage cooking” At least I offset that to a small degree by not eating till supper the next day. Yea, right, keep telling myself that! LOL


47 posted on 02/07/2014 2:00:43 PM PST by rightly_dividing (1st Cor. 15: 1-4)
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To: rightly_dividing; ApplegateRanch; greeneyes

Thank you all very much. Somebody has been lurking over at Word For The Day! ;^)


48 posted on 02/07/2014 2:02:20 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

Happy Friday greeneyes. I have two gardening-related questions for you and/or any other FReeper that knows their stuff.

First, I planted some lettuce in 5 hydroponic pots and they’re starting to grow, but the new growth looks more like sprouts than lettuce. I was expecting a low ball of green instead of a tall thin stalk reaching toward the light. Is this normal for lettuce as it starts from seed? What’s it supposed to look like for the first few weeks after germination?

Second, I just bought a plum tree and still need to get some soil before I plant it. Any recommendations on which type of soil and what kind of drainage it’ll need? I’m thinking of potting it since it’s small, then transplanting it into the ground after it outgrows the pot. Bad idea? decent idea? I’m in Southern California so winter weather isn’t a huge deal, but my backyard soil kinda sucks.

Thanks in advance to any and all responses.


49 posted on 02/07/2014 2:02:49 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( 0bama's words are the distraction to the destruction ))))
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To: rightly_dividing

Variety is the spice of life they say. I always like to plant a few different things each year to see how they do.

Last year I did sunflower seeds, peanuts, and amaranth. The slugs loved them, but hit the sunflower seeds the hardest. I planted the sunflowers too early, and they didn’t do well, so I reseeded when the weather was warmer.

They did great till the slugs hit. They chewed them all down so quick, I just gave up. I put out beer in tuna cans, and the slugs left the peanuts and amaranth alone.

Hubby made a new bed for the amaranth. I am going to plant several beds of peanuts this year. I am going to have to find a better spot for the sunflowers, though.

My new thing this year is going to be deck corn, and the planting pots like Marcella got. Haven’t decided what will go in them yet.


50 posted on 02/07/2014 2:03:54 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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