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Microsoft Fan Says: 'Windows 8 Is A Disaster In Every Sense Of The Word'
Business Insider ^ | Frbruary 10, 2014 | Juulie Bort

Posted on 02/11/2014 1:11:44 PM PST by lbryce

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To: GeronL

One has a choice to use the default “Start” tile page or the more classic “Desktop”.

Personal choice...


61 posted on 02/11/2014 3:12:47 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: lbryce; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
While the idea behind it was good — a two-in-one device that melds a PC with a table — in practice, it's "a mess" Thurrott says, because it's really two operating systems, “mobile and desktop, fused together unnaturally like a Frankenstein's monster."
That sentence is an oxymoron -- the failures of this OS (I'm soaking in it right now) are DUE to the fact that it's a tablet/smartphone OS forced down the throats of laptop and desktop CPU users, IOW, the idea behind it is the root of the problem, and it ISN'T a good idea. Thanks lbryce.
62 posted on 02/11/2014 3:23:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: lbryce

What we need is a slightly tweeked version of XP 64 that would have all of the capabilities of X-Tree in its file manager, and the world would be wonderful.

The file manager routines are the worst parts of all of the versions of Windows. 98 SE was the sweetest as marketed, and Norton’s version of X-Tree made its file manager perfect, but it lacked the full power of USB.


63 posted on 02/11/2014 3:28:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: lbryce
Install this and all will be well:

www.classicshell.net

64 posted on 02/11/2014 3:30:04 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Steely Tom
I installed Classic Shell ...
Me too, I like simple.
I've used PCs since day one and DOS and the only OS I didn't like was NT. Rumor has it that NT stood for Nazi Technology.
Then again, I never used Windows Me ... I guess it was just terrible.
65 posted on 02/11/2014 3:30:29 PM PST by oh8eleven (claimer)
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To: lbryce

MS and all the other vendors need to learn a few things.

There are phones.
There are computers.

They are NOT THE SAME!

One size fits all only if all are the same size!!


66 posted on 02/11/2014 3:30:44 PM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: luvbach1

>> “Still using almost-glitch-free XP” <<

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Same here but I hate the dumb-ass file manager. I make all of my machines dual boot so I can boot up in 98SE to use the Norton file manager to fix problems and to to the “DOD Erase” on files.


67 posted on 02/11/2014 3:34:23 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Does that thing have a “DOD” level file scrub built in?


68 posted on 02/11/2014 3:42:50 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Naw, it’s safe. My SIL vouched for it, and he’s a computer security expert.


69 posted on 02/11/2014 3:47:40 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: lbryce

All they really need to do was merge desktop shortcuts and apps into one if they want the OS to function in both desktop and mobile platforms. So those using desktop will have the start menu and taskbar and those on mobile will simply have the desktop with apps


70 posted on 02/11/2014 3:48:50 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: phormer phrog phlyer
I am still using XP, I will have to change here very soon, not looking forward to it.

I wonder, if an XP machine has an up-to-date virus scanner and firewall, how much risk will there actually be once Microsoft withdraws support?

71 posted on 02/11/2014 3:52:36 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

NO, that’s not what I meant.

I want an effective file washer like the old X-Tree had, that works within the file manager.

The filtering from X-Tree would be nice to have too.


72 posted on 02/11/2014 4:10:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Nah, it just makes 8 work like 7.


73 posted on 02/11/2014 4:15:50 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: catbertz
I’ve used classic start to restore win7 usefulness, and basically ignore all the metro nonsense. "> I’ve used classic start to restore win7 usefulness, and basically ignore all the metro nonsense.

You mean Classic Shell . I have Windows 8.1 and with Classic Shell and other tweaks (like the Quick Launch bar . Right click Extender, etc.) there you can use it much like W/7/XP but better.

See this FR thread and this one .

74 posted on 02/11/2014 4:43:48 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: catbertz
classic start - I meant to ask that as a question. Sorry.
75 posted on 02/11/2014 4:46:40 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: editor-surveyor
ZTreeWin File Manager
76 posted on 02/11/2014 6:21:13 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: daniel1212

Yes I did mean Classic Shell. Mistype, with no edit button and no time lol. Classic Shell is awesome. I’ve actually used it for years on Win7 to extend functionality.

There is a “Classic Start” as well, which appears to be a less customizable variant of Classic Shells entry.


77 posted on 02/11/2014 6:29:38 PM PST by catbertz
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To: Organic Panic

windows 8 main screen looks a lot like compuserve’s 90s block menu screen.


78 posted on 02/11/2014 7:11:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: VanDeKoik

I have a manufacturing machine shop that relies on CNC machinery, PC based inspection equipment, robots, large format plotters, and a huge variety of equipment that runs on PC windows based computers that have been stable and standardized since Win95. The engineering and manufacturing industry dropped UNIX for windows about 15 years ago. Try retooling an entire shop floor sometime.

I also have 10s of thousands of dollars of software that runs in the Windoze environment. (CATIA MasterCAM AutoCAD) that all rely on stable work platforms that have been pretty standard since Win XP.

With win 8’s disregard for standards they have used for 20 years it is a MASSIVE and expensive change that should never have happened. Sure, if you love windows 8 I invite you to give me 100s of thousands of dollars for new equipment to be compatible with win8. I’ll send you a shopping list. I also welcome you to cover my cost of training a dozen employees that must now be retrained to operate in the win8 world. Oh yeah, please don’t forget to reimburse me for the lost productivity while these changes are made while I install the new machinery you’ll be buying for me.


79 posted on 02/11/2014 7:13:37 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: lbryce

I use Windows 7 SP1. Windows 8 does not appears to offer nearly enough to make an upgrade worthwhile. It appears to be two operating systems forced together, as if Microsoft couldn’t decide which version of Windows 8 it wanted to offer so it offered both. How many people will want to use both versions?


80 posted on 02/11/2014 8:48:59 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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