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Microsoft Fan Says: 'Windows 8 Is A Disaster In Every Sense Of The Word'
Business Insider ^ | Frbruary 10, 2014 | Juulie Bort

Posted on 02/11/2014 1:11:44 PM PST by lbryce

One of Microsoft's strongest supporters took a good, hard look at the soon-to-be released next version of Windows 8, which could arrive in April, and threw his hands up in frustration.

The new version is called Windows 8 Update 1, and it includes a number of small changes, mostly minor tweaks.

These tweaks try to fix some of the complaints people still had about Windows 8. But blogger Paul Thurrott of the influential Windows blog “Supersite for Windows” says they really just make Windows 8 more difficult to use, especially on a tablet.

He took Microsoft to task, writing:

Windows 8 is a disaster in every sense of the word. This is not open to debate, is not part of some cute imaginary world where everyone's opinion is equally valid or whatever. Windows 8 is a disaster. Period.

There’s no reason to rehash the long list of complaints users have about Windows 8. We can summarize them: Windows 8 is not well designed. It's not easy to use.

While the idea behind it was good — a two-in-one device that melds a PC with a table — in practice, it's "a mess" Thurrott says, because it's really two operating systems, “mobile and desktop, fused together unnaturally like a Frankenstein's monster."

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...."fused together unnaturally like a Frankenstein's monster."
Sounds like the current regime leader in Washington.
1 posted on 02/11/2014 1:11:44 PM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce
Actually, Windows Vista was A Disaster In Every Sense Of The Word.

Windows 8 is a Disaster So Massive, Its Gravitational Field Is Actually Attracting Other Disasters From Every Corner Of The Galaxy So That They Spiral In On Redmond, Washington, Threatening To Turn That Medium-Sized Town Into A Veritable Black Hole Of Disaster For The Entire Universe.

2 posted on 02/11/2014 1:14:54 PM PST by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: lbryce

And I like Winders 8 just fine.


3 posted on 02/11/2014 1:14:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I have gotten used to Windows 8. At first I was horrified.

I liked the 8.1 update. LOL


4 posted on 02/11/2014 1:17:22 PM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

Yeah. I think the self described experts just like to have something to whine about.


5 posted on 02/11/2014 1:19:19 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Steely Tom
LOL! Other than that, how do you like it? :-)
6 posted on 02/11/2014 1:19:28 PM PST by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: Steely Tom

What you said!!!

KYPD


7 posted on 02/11/2014 1:22:07 PM PST by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: lbryce

My first description was as follows:

take every cutesy thing to have ever come from the internet. Take every unlabeled icon ever invented. Take what works from the Iphone. Take a bucket of red paint, blue paint, and yellow paint. Chew it all up, swallow, the vomit the results on your desktop. That’s how much sense it makes.

Windows 8 only sucks if you have to use it. Microsoft is like Republicans. Just when something starts going right and they figure out how to do something well, the screw it all up and ruin it for themselves.


8 posted on 02/11/2014 1:22:42 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: lbryce

Microsoft has a lot to learn about user-friendliness.


9 posted on 02/11/2014 1:23:29 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: lbryce

I’ve using Windows 8.1 for several months for a variety of productive uses, and it works quite well for me. The touch screen can sometimes be easier to use than the mouse or the touch pad. And file searching is also easier. But it’s only an incremental upgrade over Windows 7.


10 posted on 02/11/2014 1:23:48 PM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: lbryce

It IS a disaster. It can make people long for the days of Vista or even Windows ME.

They are basically trying to take an OS that works for a mobile device and throw it onto a desktop. I couldn’t imagine deploying it far and wide onto a corporate network. There would be zero productivity, and a mutiny against the IT department.


11 posted on 02/11/2014 1:26:22 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: lbryce

I hate it...

give me back XP..

my old computer was dying that’s why I had to get a new one..


12 posted on 02/11/2014 1:26:47 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: lbryce

“melds a PC with a table”???


13 posted on 02/11/2014 1:28:25 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Steely Tom

Windows 8 was designed by somebody high up in Apple’s management team, it had to be!

Some puter stores wised up and started selling putters with windows 7 again.


14 posted on 02/11/2014 1:29:19 PM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Socon-Econ

“I’ve using Windows 8.1 for several months for a variety of productive uses, and it works quite well for me.”

On a laptop?


15 posted on 02/11/2014 1:31:51 PM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: lbryce

I recently had a user with an 8.1 Machine.

They travelled quite a bit, so they had a bunch of wireless profiles floating in there from various hotels, restaurants, airports, customer sites, etc.

Unless you can connect to those access points, you can’t delete them through the GUI. You have to go into the file system and delete the information, or use command line tools to accomplish the same thing.


16 posted on 02/11/2014 1:32:23 PM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: Steely Tom
Windows Vista was A Disaster In Every Sense Of The Word.
I've used Vista on both a PC and a laptop for over 5 years w/o a snag. How about some details?
17 posted on 02/11/2014 1:32:56 PM PST by oh8eleven (claimer)
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To: lbryce

When they needed an new PC, Windows 8 has driven everyone I know to Apple.


18 posted on 02/11/2014 1:34:20 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: cripplecreek

I ain’t a geek but it works fine for me too.


19 posted on 02/11/2014 1:35:08 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: lbryce

Another day, another hit from the sufferers of Microsoft Derangement Syndrome...and the usual clown car of Linux Zealots, Apple fanboys, and people that are on XP.

For all of us Win 8 users we usually get to hear how impossible it is for us to use an OS that we are all currently using just fine. And how self-proclaimed computer gurus cant figure out how to use an OS that is 99% the same as Windows 7.


20 posted on 02/11/2014 1:37:18 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: lbryce

Tablets are fine for browsing — they are good for that. PC’s are for doing serious work. Trying to develop an OS that will run well for on both is a monumental task involving a lot of early design trade-offs. Square peg/round hole.


21 posted on 02/11/2014 1:37:32 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: lbryce

who is this self appointed blogger person?

never heard of him.


22 posted on 02/11/2014 1:40:02 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: VanDeKoik

I like the fact I can use real software without the need for pretenderware or absurd work arounds.


23 posted on 02/11/2014 1:43:52 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: lbryce

I liked 8 until I started working on deploying it. Now I am really starting to hate it.

Encrypted install.wim files, major issues with metro apps not working, cant sysprep an upgrade, MS paying funny games with people trying to do clean installs of 8.1, the list goes on.

You really have to wonder what the hell they were thinking. If I want to do an 8.1 clean install, I have to use a KMS key then activate using the original product key. The Dell systems I get in are all upgrades and cannot be sysprepped in their OEM form. That means more work for me. Windows 7 is still outstanding and I wish MS would tack on some of 8 and 8.1 features like storage space and the built in image backup.


24 posted on 02/11/2014 1:43:54 PM PST by drunknsage
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To: dforest

Windows 8 runs my programs without a hitch without crashing. Windows 8.1 is certainly an improvement.


25 posted on 02/11/2014 1:44:35 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Organic Panic

So can you please explain to some of us how we are able to use it with no problems?

You guys keep having to amp up the ridiculousness in your explanations in order to give you a reason why you cant figure it out, and never once realize that it may just be a personal problem and not a design flaw.


26 posted on 02/11/2014 1:48:40 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: windsorknot

A month ago, I upgraded from a Toshiba Win7 to a new ASUS Ultrabook - gorgeous and fast!

It came with Win8 and I immediately upgraded top 8.1. Although I never really used it with Win8, it’s been a GREAT machine so far - no complaints re: Win8.1

btw, I set it to boot up to the desktop which it does REALLY fast!

I also loaded my 2003 MS Office Pro and all programs run perfectly on Win8.1

Finally, I downloaded MS Expressions 4 and copied by Frontpage 2003 website files - again all runs perfect.


27 posted on 02/11/2014 1:52:53 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I am still using XP, I will have to change here very soon, not looking forward to it.


28 posted on 02/11/2014 1:56:37 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: lbryce


29 posted on 02/11/2014 1:56:59 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: lbryce

But everyone on TV uses it, and they can do all kinds of stuff us real people can’t.


30 posted on 02/11/2014 1:58:55 PM PST by Darth Reardon (Is it any wonder I'm not the president?)
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To: lbryce

I can work around Windows 8; the typical yuppie couldn’t, and even for my own purposes there is no added benefit to justify having to work around it. Nobody wants a computer to look like a gadget.


31 posted on 02/11/2014 2:00:16 PM PST by varmintman
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To: newfreep

shhhh are you trying to have those linux cry babies self terminate? (/s)


32 posted on 02/11/2014 2:00:36 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: drunknsage

That’s the one thing they started with 7 actually.. Or at least got far worse on. They are real squirrely with the licensing and having the physical media now. Especially if you got an OEM copy. There’s a way to get a clean install for 8.1 if you had an 8.0 oem install, but the licensing won’t work on it because of the ‘retail’ vs ‘oem’ nonsense.

I mean they monitor if you’re trying to use the license on multiple computers but it’s a pain. You end up having to hope calling their automated system will work. I know they’re trying to make it hard for pirating, but man it’s a pain.


33 posted on 02/11/2014 2:05:05 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: lbryce

It is a stupid idea that a tablet and a PC should have the exact same OS and interface.


34 posted on 02/11/2014 2:06:23 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Steely Tom

or worse....


35 posted on 02/11/2014 2:06:48 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: KoRn

I doubt anyone longs for Vista


36 posted on 02/11/2014 2:08:20 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

It’s not really exactly the same. I think it’s a good idea to make your products have a familiar feel across platforms. Xbox 1, phones, tablets, and desktop. I don’t think they need to be identical and they aren’t especially for the first 2. But a common interface isn’t a bad idea at all.

Touch screen laptops really help and I hope those become much more common by the end of this year.


37 posted on 02/11/2014 2:09:10 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: lbryce

When XP reaches EOL, the best thing M$ could do is “upgrade” Windows 8 to Windows 8XP. That way their customers would be happy and they’d be able to keep supporting and OS that works perfectly well for 90% of their customers.


38 posted on 02/11/2014 2:09:47 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: newfreep

My question is why do you have to set it to boot to desktop? Isn’t it common sense for it to come that way?


39 posted on 02/11/2014 2:12:06 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: DJ Taylor

LiveOneCare and Vista did that for me.

That, after 20 years of heavy Windows use! I got off that carousel.


40 posted on 02/11/2014 2:12:37 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: phormer phrog phlyer
You don't have to change. Nobody is going to force you.
41 posted on 02/11/2014 2:13:37 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Monty22002

I hate the idea of a touchscreen laptop and I will never want tiles.


42 posted on 02/11/2014 2:14:18 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: lbryce
Is the release of a new Windows OS still something people get excited about?

Or did people lose interest (about the time Friends was cancelled or so)?

43 posted on 02/11/2014 2:18:42 PM PST by x
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

My cousin was one of those computer geeks who got in early and landed himself a job as some kind of administrator of a company’s computer systems.

He had about a decade of denigrating the keyboard banging monkeys. Over time those keyboard banging monkeys learned to do his job and more. In an attempt to save his job he deliberately made a mess out of the system. The company got suspicious and called in a private investigator who specialized in computer crimes and caught him. He was inserting invisible firewalls between departments, routing things to dead end files that only he could find etc.

He got called into a meeting with the company heads, corporate attorneys, and prosecutor. They dumped a pile of evidence on the table in front of him and told him to think real hard about the choices in front of him. He went home that night but he did it without his severance package or any of the other perks he was supposed to get upon his termination. What really saved him was the fact that he wasn’t actually stealing anything but he did cost the company some considerable money.


44 posted on 02/11/2014 2:19:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Still using almost-glitch-free XP.


45 posted on 02/11/2014 2:21:20 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: luvbach1

Probably with XP is you have no idea how many rootkits or other security holes going on by now. Starting with Vista they added UAC which really does help keep things safer.


46 posted on 02/11/2014 2:25:32 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: Steely Tom

Just installed clean 8.1 two weeks ago, coming from 7. Win8 is an UI abomination in many ways, but I think they could salvage this wreck, if they honestly listened to some of the criticism.

I’ve used classic start to restore win7 usefulness, and basically ignore all the metro nonsense. This does smell like Vista/7 experience, which gives me hope that they will come to their senses.


47 posted on 02/11/2014 2:28:39 PM PST by catbertz
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To: oh8eleven
I've used Vista on both a PC and a laptop for over 5 years w/o a snag. How about some details?

I was being sarcastic/ironic, attempting to imitate the hyperventilating that so often accompanies any discussion of the shortcomings of the various releases of Windows.

I skipped Vista, partly because of the awfulness-rumors attending its release, but mostly because I liked Windows XP and had purchased a new XP machine just a few weeks before MS announced that they absolutely, positively were not going to allow any more copies of XP to be sold.

That machine served me well until I had to get a 64-bit machine for my work; on that machine is installed Win 7, which I like very much. Another reason I had to leave XP behind was that it was becoming too vulnerable to viruses, and the anti-virus software I use was unable to deploy all it's capabilities under XP, even on 64-bit hardware.

I've used Win 8 on a touch-screen computer we got my daughter. My only real beef with Win 8 as it is installed on that machine is that I have not - after several hours of concerted effort - been able to get it to communicate with the Win 7 machine that is serving as our home printer server; this effectively prevents my daughter from printing anything out without e-mailing it to herself, etc.

Win 8 seems fine in other respects; I installed Classic Shell so it has the normal Start-button/taskbar design I'm used to, although she uses the "Metro" desktop.

48 posted on 02/11/2014 2:31:55 PM PST by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: cripplecreek

Hey, that’ll kill off a ton of the software industry if they did that all over. Level 3 bugs are a cornerstone of the software industry. Make it so you have to run a few simple fixes that you know by heart but say it’s a 3 day thing. A *large* proportion of the IT keeps their jobs by intentional bugs.


49 posted on 02/11/2014 2:32:23 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: Steely Tom

Now that’s funny.


50 posted on 02/11/2014 2:32:30 PM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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