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Jonathan Vilma: NFL Players Will Have ‘Resistance’ to Michael Sam, Gay Players
NESN ^ | Tue, Feb 11, 2014 Read more at: http://nesn.com/2014/02/jonathan-vilma-nfl-players-will-have-resist | Luke Hughes

Posted on 02/13/2014 10:00:57 AM PST by nickcarraway

Fancred Michael Sam’s decision to come out has drawn support and praise from fans, owners and players around the NFL. The way he’ll be treated once inside an NFL locker room, though, is a different story.

New Orleans Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma expressed some doubts about gay players in NFL locker rooms during an NFL Network interview earlier this month.

“I think that he would not be accepted as much as we think he would be accepted,” Vilma said. “I don’t want people to just naturally assume, like, ‘Oh, we’re all homophobic.’ That’s really not the case. Imagine if he’s the guy next to me and, you know, I get dressed, naked, taking a shower, the whole nine, and it just so happens he looks at me. How am I supposed to respond?”

After Sam’s revelation Sunday, Vilma clarified his comments, expressing some regret over his original example.

“It was a poor illustration of the example I was trying to give on the context, so I do apologize for that,” Vilma said on CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360″ on Monday, per the Times-Picayune. “I was trying to explain that whenever you have change into something that’s been set in stone for so long, something that’s been going for so long, that change always comes with a little resistance.”

The three-time Pro Bowler said plenty of players would accept and welcome a gay teammate, but a small percentage might not be quite as open-minded.

“You have people that can be more outgoing, more open-minded. You have people that are a little more closed-minded,” Vilma said. “Some people grew up with or without the acceptance of gays within their families. You have a lot of different elements within the locker room that you just don’t see right now. Me being on the inside for 10 years, inside the locker room, I’ve been around that.

“And it’s not to say that the locker rooms are bad. It’s to say that there are going to be people that accept it willingly as soon as he comes in, welcome him with open arms, and then unfortunately, there will be some, I’m about 99 percent sure the minority, will say, well, they’re not comfortable with that yet.

“They don’t know how to respond to that. That’s just what’s going to happen in the first whatever, the first year, two years. When you have more players like Michael Sam coming out and saying that they’re gay, the transition will be a lot smoother.”

Vilma, 31, likely will be released by the Saints this offseason and could find himself out of the league altogether after missing 25 games over the last three seasons.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: football; gay; nfl
Why is there a double standard that straight men don't have rights?
1 posted on 02/13/2014 10:00:57 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
The way he’ll be treated once inside an NFL locker room, though, is a different story.

If he ever gets in the locker room in the frst place. And that's a big if. They won't say so publicly but I'll bet there will be players from every team talking privately to coaches, telling them they don't want to share a locker room with a fag...the team doesn't need the distraction etc etc.

2 posted on 02/13/2014 10:03:21 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: nickcarraway

Headline of the Day Poll
Should homosexuals be allowed in the NFL showers?

50% Yes. Homophobia should be rejected.
4% I don’t know.
46% No. Heterosexuals have rights, too.

http://www.headlineoftheday.com


3 posted on 02/13/2014 10:05:00 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: pgkdan

They will be railroaded out of football if they complain. Remember, the NFL is a billion dollar business, and billion dollar businesses support the left and crush anyone who disagrees with the left.


4 posted on 02/13/2014 10:07:29 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

given this new precedent, i look forward to being able to go into the female locker room anytime i want. they’ve already let women in the locker room with men - which i oppose.

if a homosexual man, who is attracted and has sex with men, can be in a locker room with straight men, why can’t a man, who is attracted to and has sex with women, be in a locker room with women?

seriously, the lib position justifies it, and it’s insane.


5 posted on 02/13/2014 10:07:32 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway

Mr. Sam should strongly consider getting some AFLAC supplemental disability insurance.


6 posted on 02/13/2014 10:09:20 AM PST by Mashood
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To: nickcarraway

why do straight men have to put up with being ogled sexually by homosexuals in the locker room?

it’s like saying women have to put up with men ogling them sexually in their locker room.


7 posted on 02/13/2014 10:09:22 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: pgkdan

I think if the truth be told, gay NFL players who have been “outed,” are usually cut quickly and quietly but for other reasons. I can give names here, but won’t.

I might be wrong, and the current generation of ball players I’m told don’t care if you’re red, blue, white, gay or whatever, but there are still conservative veterans on teams, so I would be entirely surprised if this guy is successful in the NFL. With the amount of talent out there, why draft a guy who will cause disharmony on your team from get go.

Ten years from now? Who knows.


8 posted on 02/13/2014 10:12:18 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: pgkdan
“If he ever gets in the locker room in the first place.”

I'm thinking he “came out” when he did in an attempt to use this issue as leverage to guarantee a spot in the NFL. He's setting up his “ if you don't draft me your discriminating against me because I'm a homo” defiance.

9 posted on 02/13/2014 10:15:19 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: V_TWIN

defiance = defense


10 posted on 02/13/2014 10:15:50 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: nickcarraway
They will be railroaded out of football if they complain.

Nope. If they go on TV and complain they'll have hell to pay. But not if they keep it in the locker room. Ever played sports? Ever been part of a locker room? There's going to be a bunch of complaints.

11 posted on 02/13/2014 10:17:09 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: nickcarraway

The New Orleans Saints Have Fired Jonathan Vilma!!

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24440329/saints-dl-will-smith-to-be-released


12 posted on 02/13/2014 10:21:27 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: nickcarraway

You have to wonder what is it about pro football that made it such a target for such an attack.


13 posted on 02/13/2014 10:21:36 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: nikos1121
I would be entirely surprised if this guy is successful in the NFL. With the amount of talent out there, why draft a guy who will cause disharmony on your team from get go.

He's already called too much attention to himself. Now if a team sings him, they know they'll be accused of homophobia if they release him. He should have waited until he had a contract to come out of the closet. He'll have to hope one of the more PC teams might want him just because he's a homo.

14 posted on 02/13/2014 10:25:18 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: nickcarraway

An ex-NFL player on my local sports talk station says that gays in the NFL are going to have a really tough time with devoutly Christian African-Americans in the locker room.


15 posted on 02/13/2014 10:27:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: pgkdan

Yes, I have been part of a locker room. Have you?


16 posted on 02/13/2014 10:28:28 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Last Dakotan

It was manly and even with all of the felons in the league there are many good Christian men in the NFL. Libs always destroy and never build up.


17 posted on 02/13/2014 10:30:06 AM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: pgkdan
When I was in the army, I shared a barracks with a number guys who were gay and it was no big deal to any of us straight guys.

The big difference however was that they minded their own business and conducted their private lives just like the rest of us....privately.

The militant homosexuals have destroyed that once peaceful cohabitation.......

18 posted on 02/13/2014 10:31:43 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I think I've lost my mojo.....)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I don’t think press of any gender or orientation should be in the locker-room


19 posted on 02/13/2014 10:37:27 AM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: nickcarraway
I was thinking this morning that football and hockey are contact sports....people get scrapes, cuts, nosebleeds....

who wants to be that close to a gay man who might be carrying hiv or hep c?.....

maybe this is why we have the push for touch football and soft play...

20 posted on 02/13/2014 10:42:43 AM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: nickcarraway; All

How long before there is a gay marriage performed at halftime on the fifty yard line? Cheerleaders will be brides’ maids.


21 posted on 02/13/2014 10:47:46 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: nickcarraway

For some reason this popped into my head:

“Let the one who does wrong, still do wrong; and the one who is filthy, still be filthy; and let the one who is righteous, still practice righteousness; and the one who is holy, still keep himself holy”—Rev. 22:11

The declaration of our rapidly approaching endl? God’s timing is apart from ours, but this Scripture speaks of some kind of judgment around a bent people. A willfully bent people. So bent recovery is highly unlikely?


22 posted on 02/13/2014 10:58:29 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Sans-Culotte

YOU’re right. It’s like when you’re hiring a new worker. It’s easier to find a reason to deny him or her employee at the front end than to hire and then find a legit reason to fire once they are working esp if there is a labor relations issue.

If no one drafts this guy, then what does he do, sue the NFL? No, as I see it, he shows up as a walk on?

DOes anybody know if the guy is any good?


23 posted on 02/13/2014 11:03:18 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: nickcarraway

Defending Free Speech on “Anderson Cooper 360” is a thankless task as Jonathan Vilma was forced to backtrack from what should be a pretty defensible statement. Gee I wonder why, Anderson?

Most people are projecting their own feelings in this situation. I’m not sure that today’s NFL player typically feels like me (a Baby Boomer). They’ve been indoctrinated that “Gay is OK” since they’ve been in elementary school and so are probably not going to oppose Michael Sam — certainly not openly.


24 posted on 02/13/2014 11:05:14 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: pgkdan

High school and college locker rooms are not a billion dollar business. The NFL views those players as property, and they don’t allow opposition. The will enforce a leftist worldview on all players, Any players who dissent will lose their contract.


25 posted on 02/13/2014 11:07:42 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nikos1121

He won SEC defensive player of the year. Yeah he’s good, though a little undersized for the NFL which is why he was projected 3rd round.

Really people are making way too much about this. The fact of the matter is the teams were going to find out anyway, that’s the kind of stuff background checks are for, and since he came out to his college team they were going to find out fast. By coming out he actually turned it into a non-issue, now it’s not a secret that could distract. In the end the league is about performance many sins are forgiven for doing the job, just look at Riley Cooper. If Smith does a good job nobody is going to care, if Smith doesn’t do a good job nobody is going to care. By the time the combine is over this story will be over except for dedicated ax grinders.


26 posted on 02/13/2014 11:13:16 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: discostu

Smartest people in the world are on Free Republic.


27 posted on 02/13/2014 11:21:03 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: V_TWIN
I'm thinking he "came out" when he did in an attempt to use the issue as leverage"

Isn't there a picture of him in a gay bar stripped to the waist partying? Maybe he made this announcement to check-mate the impact of that photo. Otherwise, why not just go through the draft and answer any questions discretely and honestly about his sexual preferences, when and if they came up?

I'm sure I encounter people every day who are gay. My attitude is I won't bother you with stories about my sexual preferences, please don't burden me with yours.

28 posted on 02/13/2014 11:22:22 AM PST by grania
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I might wonder if this guy under-performed at workouts or the Senior Bowl and this is a pre-emptive strike on his (and his agent’s) part to deflect attention from that.

Anyway, is he really big enough to be a pro end? Might project as a linebacker but does he have enough speed or backer instincts? Guess that time will tell.


29 posted on 02/13/2014 11:22:38 AM PST by Rockpile
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To: grania

Because technically a prospective employer isn’t supposed to ask about that and there was a stink at last year’s combine because some teams allegedly (don’t think it ever was proven) asked some players if they were gay. Coming out when he did ends all problems, it won’t be a secret he’s hoping the background check misses, the story will be played out by the time the combine starts, nobody has to ask any pointed questions or wonder. Everybody gets to move on and evaluate his football skills.


30 posted on 02/13/2014 11:28:44 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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“In the end the league is about performance many sins are forgiven for doing the job, just look at Riley Cooper.”

Not sure that Cooper is a good example. Riley Cooper probably would have been jettisoned from the Eagles had they not lost Jeremy Macklin for the year during the first week of pre-season. He was ‘safe’ after that. Nobody expected him to have the season he had when he became QB Nick Foles’ favorite target.


31 posted on 02/13/2014 11:32:47 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

I don’t think they would have jettisoned him, he took his punishment his QB backed him and then he performed. Even before Foles came in the world had moved on, he was doing his job and nobody really cared, it was a non-issue by the time the regular season began.


32 posted on 02/13/2014 11:38:49 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: discostu

Cooper is a free agent this year. Let’s see if things have “really blown over” if he opts to sign with another club. If he does the entire affair will be re-opened — you can count on that.

Good point about his QB (Vick) backing him up. I think that stiffened some spines in the Eagles front office. Had he not done that the Eagles might have cut anyway, and despite the loss of Macklin.


33 posted on 02/13/2014 11:49:25 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

I doubt it will re-open, a lot of folks predicted the cornerbacks of the league (who are all black) were some special “treats” for him and none of that happened either. The big question he has going into free agency is was last season his new level or an aberration, I know he’s going to be pushing that it’s his new level but smart GMs won’t be so easily convinced. Given current pay scales that’s about a $5mil/year question, which could keep him out of the league for a while.


34 posted on 02/13/2014 12:09:16 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: nickcarraway

That’s paranoid nonsense.


35 posted on 02/13/2014 12:13:55 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: al baby

i agree, wht kind of scoop are they getting catching guys in their towels. they’re sports guys, they aren’t going to say anything so spectacular or unpredictable that they can’t just hold a after-game press conference, or catch them on the way out of the locker room.


36 posted on 02/13/2014 12:53:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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