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For American skaters, old suits don't help
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Posted on 02/15/2014 2:13:56 PM PST by Perdogg

Maybe it wasn't the suits after all.

After shedding their new, high-tech skinsuits for their old-fashioned gear, American speedskaters still were without a medal at the Sochi Olympics.

Zbigniew Brodka won Poland's first gold medal in the men's 1,500 meters, finishing 0.003 seconds ahead of Koen Verweij of the Netherlands. It was one of the closest 1,500 finishes in Olympic history.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Sports
KEYWORDS: olympics; underarmour
Of course it wasn't the suits. Did they actually practice with these suits? My guess they did and they did not discover any problems.

Underarmour Still rules!

1 posted on 02/15/2014 2:13:56 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg
It's the ice, skates, muscles, cardio-vascular output and nutrition.

I hope they have been training at the appropriate Sochi altitude.

2 posted on 02/15/2014 2:18:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Perdogg

Except for some “sciences” (like Globull Warming), science and technology still rule.


3 posted on 02/15/2014 2:19:44 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Perdogg

4 posted on 02/15/2014 2:20:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Perdogg

Is it the tat’s and piercings?


5 posted on 02/15/2014 2:20:36 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Don’t they train in Colo Springs? 6000 ft.

I’ve toured that facility maybe 10 yrs ago.


6 posted on 02/15/2014 2:22:23 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Perdogg
May I vent? The skaters were okay with using NASA technology to boost their performance in order to beat skaters with more talent and drive. The spoiled brat perpetual winners lost to atheletes who did better. So now they want to blame the suits that gave them an unfair advantage? The snow was their problem, as if everyone else didn't have to ski or board on the same snow?

There are a lot of remarkable US atheletes there. But they're the ones that weren't the pre-ordained stars. And you know what? They're doing very well.

It's quite pleasant to see our entitled class brought down to earth. JMHO

7 posted on 02/15/2014 2:25:39 PM PST by grania
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To: Perdogg

The old suits are underarmour too.


8 posted on 02/15/2014 2:26:01 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: nascarnation

I thought they trained here in Milwaukee at the Pettit Ice Center, built especially for Bonnie Blair and Dan Jansen.


9 posted on 02/15/2014 2:43:32 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: nascarnation
I don't know.

Historically, training at a relatively high altitude is supposed to be a plus for near sea level performance for at least a couple of weeks.

Who knows what the performance differences are for various combinations of training altitude vs performance altitude.

Times at higher altitude for short interval performances should be highly correlated with wind resistance/drag due to air density.

Think baseball hitting range in Denver vs. NYC.

10 posted on 02/15/2014 2:45:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A good workman redesigns/rebuilds his tools should they prove to be deficient or when he sees a possible improvement.

It's the American way.

11 posted on 02/15/2014 2:49:34 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Perdogg

Hopefully no one drank the tap water at Sochi....
and you know................ became impotent..


12 posted on 02/15/2014 2:51:28 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: grania
The skaters were okay with using NASA technology to boost their performance in order to beat skaters with more talent and drive.

Sorry to destroy your argument but all the other participants were using the same technology in their uniforms since they were provided uninforms from the same manufacturers .......that's just the way it is.

I find it ironic that only the U.S. team is wearing new gear from Under Armor and their performances have been dramatically reduced. If I were one of the athletes, I would definitely demand the IOC allow a change in skate suit..............

13 posted on 02/15/2014 3:11:49 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: grania

Complete agreement.

I wonder just how well trained these athletes really are. None of them seem trained to handle adverse conditions and none of them are apparently learning to adapt to such conditions.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 3:19:21 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Maybe they should be required to skate naked.


15 posted on 02/15/2014 3:19:55 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: nascarnation

6000 ft is beyond the highest Sochi alt, and I doubt the arenas are much above sea level.


16 posted on 02/15/2014 3:32:06 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Perdogg

they should give them participation medals !

how rude! /s


17 posted on 02/15/2014 3:42:13 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Perdogg

They could maybe consider getting involved in a real sport.


18 posted on 02/15/2014 3:43:02 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Perdogg
The extra weight that slowed down American Olympians was not Underarmour - it was inflated egos from countless meida interviews and endorsements.
19 posted on 02/15/2014 4:06:54 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Perdogg
Old suits don't help in bobsleds either...


20 posted on 02/15/2014 4:10:52 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Perdogg
gotta blame it on something...
21 posted on 02/15/2014 4:27:13 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Paladin2
I hope they have been training at the appropriate Sochi altitude.

213 feet above sea level?

22 posted on 02/15/2014 4:33:37 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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The question is:

What is the appropriate training altitude for an event at 213 ft?

23 posted on 02/15/2014 4:36:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: COBOL2Java

U R baddd.....


24 posted on 02/15/2014 4:37:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
What is the appropriate training altitude for an event at 213 ft?

Since the medals are being won by guys from The Netherlands, the answer may be below sea level.

25 posted on 02/15/2014 4:47:13 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: COBOL2Java
even a blivet has it's limits... 8^)
26 posted on 02/15/2014 4:47:14 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Starstruck
Or it could be Hans Brinker genes.

Or maybe we need to install a rink in the parking lot on the top of Pikes Peak...

27 posted on 02/15/2014 4:52:05 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Perdogg

Send Nancy Pelosi over there to scold them. That will help.


28 posted on 02/15/2014 5:18:08 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: grania

We’re talking about speed skaters here ... not skiers and boarders.


29 posted on 02/16/2014 8:21:17 AM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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That's what I'm saying. There have been successes in these Olympics, but it's primarily been among mostly skiers and boarders who aren't making excuses about things and seem genuinely grateful for the experience they're having.

Yesterday, they found a female speed skater to interview who was glad to get there, had to get online donations to pay her way. Didn't hear any attitude from her.

Those who are complaining are supposed to be the best in the world. Shouldn't part of being the best in the world be to be able to adapt to conditions? The whining about snow conditions and outfit technology is unpleasant.

30 posted on 02/16/2014 8:33:58 AM PST by grania
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To: grania

Understood ... and agreed. The whole suit excuse is lame. If any athlete has a legitimate excuse it would be the skiers and boarders because of the conditions of the snow. But they haven’t said much about it ... except for the boarders during practices. Kudos to them.


31 posted on 02/16/2014 9:17:51 AM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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