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An Oversold Weapon Against Breast Cancer
Townhall.com ^ | February 16, 2014 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 02/16/2014 12:50:25 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
How should we feel about a health care system that has long put so much faith in such a flawed instrument? At least a little foolish.

Pretty much the whole article applies to colonoscopies as well.

A very, very small number actually avoid early death because of the procedure. The incidence of colorectal cancer if you do nothing is only 25/100,000. So only some fraction of 25 could be saved even if 100,000 go through the useless unpleasantness of colonoscopy prep and procedure.

21 posted on 02/16/2014 8:48:21 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: workerbee
What I know is that the efficacy of mammograms was never in question ... until we were faced with ObeyMeCare.

You're right. For years and years, doctors, the media, and everyone else insisted that women should have yearly mammograms starting at age 40. In those days, I read an article warning that yearly mammograms could cause cancer, and it convinced me not to have one. But, believe me, it didn't matter what I read - Back then, those of us who wouldn't have a mammogram were accused of being irresponsible and stupid.

Now, all of a sudden, out of the blue come all of these articles on how mammograms are harmful or, at the very least, not really helpful at all. Hmmm...

In reality, mammograms catch some tumors and miss others. IMHO, based on personal experience, we each should be vigilant about our own health, but what that means for one person may be very different from what that means for another.

22 posted on 02/16/2014 8:57:14 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: yldstrk; cuban leaf

That’s what I was thinking. Follow the money indeed. All it’s trying to do is sell that book, it told me nothing about the method, NOTHING. All it did was put down current treatment. Ok, put it down, but tell me something instead!!!


23 posted on 02/17/2014 5:26:40 AM PST by Shimmer1
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To: dangerdoc

I’m sorry, but your mother died because she believed her doctor, not just because of a mammo.

The same thing happened to me, same exact thing. “oh it’s a benign cyst” Yeah, like you know!!!! You don’t know! I wanted that thing OUT of my body, so went to a surgeon and it was cancer. Liars. I don’t allow my drs to treat me with “i think....”

I’m really sorry you lost your mom though. God bless.


24 posted on 02/17/2014 5:34:22 AM PST by Shimmer1
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To: Shimmer1

I insisted a lump come out and my doctor was livid

He turned out to be right, but the insurance would pay for lumpectomy but not mri so I made him take it out.

It was benign but at least we knew


25 posted on 02/17/2014 5:43:22 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Cuban leaf, Gerson is a crank and has cured nothing.


Sorry, but I’ve seen it happen. You can’t convince a man in a flooded house that there is no flooding.


26 posted on 02/17/2014 5:49:55 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Shimmer1

Interesting thing is that even people who have something real to say are “selling a book”.

I’ve read “How to Win Friends And Influence People” by a guy that was “selling a book”.

Etc.


27 posted on 02/17/2014 5:51:35 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: dangerdoc

The radiologist who saw the first images of my lung cancer told me it was probably just pneumonia, which I was already being treated for, but he also said it was important for me to follow up immediately with an oncologist, to be sure.
I followed his advice.

The doctor who diagnosed my lung cancer told me to write out my will, go home, and wait for death.
I ignored his advice.

The doctor who treated my lung cancer insisted that my world needed to revolve around getting rid of the cancer.
I took his advice.

I’ve been cancer free over six years, and counting.


28 posted on 02/17/2014 6:38:05 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Shimmer1

Thank goodness you followed your own instincts, Shimmer1.


29 posted on 02/17/2014 8:31:43 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

Yes. I find that some still try to treat me with “i think....” and I don’t stand for it.


30 posted on 02/17/2014 9:10:26 AM PST by Shimmer1
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To: TigersEye

No. But the Canadians have been backing health care at a government level for thirty five years and dead Canadians use less health care than live ones. It is a Canadian study.


31 posted on 02/17/2014 3:14:14 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: gemoftheocean

Mammograms are significantly less painful then end stage cancer and a damn sight more comfortable than an early grave!


32 posted on 02/17/2014 3:15:45 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: dangerdoc

If the doctor found a lump and dismissed it because of a mammogram without doing a biopsy, he is a quack who should have not only been sued into the poor house, he should have lost his license to practice medicine.


33 posted on 02/17/2014 3:17:26 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Mercat
I only had one mammogram in my life. It just seemed to me that acquaintances who got breast cancer were the ones who were most faithful about mammograms. Besides that, there's no family history of the disease and I've not been involved in any of the suspected risk factors.

But you know what? It isn't easy. I've gotten in near-screaming arguments with doctors who were insisting that I was killing myself by not getting mammograms. With one doctor, I had to make appointments and not show up, just to shut him up.

34 posted on 02/17/2014 3:22:41 PM PST by grania
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To: Jim from C-Town

He was a family friend, a very good man and suing him would not have brought our mother back.

Coincidentally do you remember hearing about a pharmacist in Kansas City diluting chemo to increase his profits? That was where she was getting her chemo, for him we signed the paperwork. No money to speak of, but he didn’t make a mistake, he committed a crime.


35 posted on 02/17/2014 5:16:33 PM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: dangerdoc

I had a friend who died because of that pharmacist. That was about the most evil thing a pharmacist could do.


36 posted on 02/18/2014 4:42:38 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Mercat

His excuse was he was donating a lot of money to his church. He must not have been paying attention.


37 posted on 02/18/2014 6:43:01 AM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: dangerdoc

There’s a really good Law and Order episode (might have been Criminal Intent - yes, with Denofrio) that tracks this story exactly. Her widower and I share a manicurist so I see him occasionally. There ended up being a settlement. She was a good person. Very sad. It was a big story here in the metro area.


38 posted on 02/18/2014 6:48:50 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Shimmer1; yldstrk

Looking back on the posts I realize I should clarify where I was coming from regarding Gerson. I see the whole Gerson thing as one of many examples of folks trying to tell us that cancer is not inevitable and can even be treated naturally. And diet is a HUGE part of both the causes and cures for it.

And medication is not always the best answer. The movie, “Curing cancer from the inside out” Is interesting. Also, if someone devotes their life to discovering information that can help people, there is really nothing wrong with paying them for their time and effort. i.e. a person is not automatically a quack simply because they want payment. That would destroy the credibility of pretty much every human being that ever lived except Jesus.


39 posted on 02/18/2014 7:22:29 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

I certainly don’t mind him or her making money off of his knowledge, but the video puts others down for that, so I was pretty much just pointing out the hypocrisy.


40 posted on 02/18/2014 9:20:13 AM PST by Shimmer1
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