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The Cultural War Against Christians
Townhall.com ^ | 3-3-2014 | Star Parker

Posted on 03/03/2014 2:35:18 AM PST by servo1969

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To: servo1969
"However, the right to religious freedom does not mean the right to write-off and marginalize into non-existence a whole class of citizens whom you don’t like or agree with"

Sez who?

21 posted on 03/03/2014 4:41:47 AM PST by circlecity
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To: servo1969

Cultural war yes, but also a war carried out by the IRS, the police, the media, the democrat party and the FCC.


22 posted on 03/03/2014 4:46:59 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: servo1969

As a way of getting around this problem, someone suggested the formation of providing products and services via “Christian clubs”, that only retail to given denominations.

But this idea has prospects far and away beyond just limited provision of products and services. For example, for some years now there have been “megachurch” communities, where everyone who lives there belongs, all retailers belong, all the schools are parochial, and the communities are gated, keeping out the outsiders and their problems.

But there is no reason in the world why such communities have to be contiguous. And as long as they do not provide products or services “to the general public”, they are legal.

Importantly, businesses could subdivide, offering *some* products and services to the general public, and *some* exclusively for club members, as long as those memberships were not offered to the public.

In many ways, like grocery store cards, who only offer discounts to store members.


23 posted on 03/03/2014 5:23:13 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: jsanders2001

Star sometimes gets it well, but she seems to have muffed this one.

If she actually checks facts on the ground there’s virtually nobody who wants to deny something to a homosexual because he’s homosexual, but rather it is because he has made it clear that he wants it in order to further homosexual activities.

She’s running from a boogieman while ignoring a very real moral and spiritual menace.


24 posted on 03/03/2014 5:24:03 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

And that’s just what the devil wants to do. To shove the Light behind dark doors. A megachurch or whatever that is cloistered like this is contrary to God’s desires. It is human weakness, not the word of God, which puts Christians into hiding.


25 posted on 03/03/2014 5:26:38 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: circlecity

And that’s a strawman argument anyhow.


26 posted on 03/03/2014 5:27:42 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: NoLibZone

I’m surprised Star Parker took this line. In addition to being a false comparison I know it infuriates many blacks.


27 posted on 03/03/2014 5:33:15 AM PST by skeeter
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To: servo1969

28 posted on 03/03/2014 5:48:45 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Pollster1

I will make patronizing Chik-fil-A and other decent businesses a priority, and patronizing worldly companies that embrace perversion a decision to be avoided.

Agreed. Let’s meet somewhere other than Disneyworld, with their many homosexual celebration days and new refusal to end funding for the Boy Scouts because of their stance against homosexual leaders.


29 posted on 03/03/2014 5:50:31 AM PST by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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To: servo1969

Disney Decides to Discriminate Against Boy Scouts

Posted 1 hour ago by Paul Breen Filed under 1st Amendment, Business

It seems that only some people can discriminate. The multi-billion-dollar “Walt Disney Company has notified the Boy Scouts of America that it will withdraw all funding from the organization beginning 2015 unless the BSA overturns its policy of not allowing openly gay members to be leaders.”

Some will say that this is different from not providing service to people or groups that promote behaviors and viewpoints that are offensive since Disney’s giving is voluntary. But isn’t purchasing photography, cakes, and printing also voluntary? No one is forcing people to choose one company over others.

If Disney is free to do what it wants with its money based on its beliefs, then why should other business owners be forced to support beliefs they disagree with?

Read: http://godfatherpolitics.com/14587/disney-decides-discriminate-boy-scouts/


30 posted on 03/03/2014 6:36:48 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: servo1969

She is wrong about the Arizona bill.


31 posted on 03/03/2014 6:43:39 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You realize I proposed the opposite? That Christians of the “moral” denominations, while geographically spread out, would produce products and services only for those they morally agree with. And if they still wish to sell to the broader market with the general public, for other products, they could still do so.

This solves the wedding cake quandary, since they would only sell wedding cakes to “moral Christian club” members. In fact, it would allow them to not sell wedding cakes the all the other deviationists, no matter if the government supported them or not.


32 posted on 03/03/2014 7:15:58 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: servo1969

“write off and marginalize”? All these people would have had to do was walk down the street and give their business to a bakery that would make their cake as they wanted. There is no right to make merchants sell products they find offensive. They simply lose the sale.


33 posted on 03/03/2014 7:22:59 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Well I guess that’s one way to deal with the issue of trade with the world. Don’t do it at all. Most Christians would want to take a middle ground. A normal heterosexual wedding is ok, may God bless it, but faux weddings are not and they would be impossible to bless.


34 posted on 03/03/2014 3:33:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I didn’t say that. The vast majority of things could be sold to the public. The only ones kept in reserve for “moral Christian club” members would be things like wedding cakes, that they did not want to sell to homosexuals, as doing so would be objectionable to their faith.


35 posted on 03/03/2014 5:54:37 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: txrefugee

The one thing the AZ fiasco proved was that Gov. Brewer can be blackmailed by Big Business and the NFL.

...actually, just the NFL...AZ and the Super Bowl are a match made in heaven, and if the NFL yanked it out over this, it would never come back again...to the great joy of Fla and Cali, no doubt...no entity on earth could survive the denial of the Super Bowl over a cultural issue it could very easily make go away,which, of course, the governor did...


36 posted on 03/04/2014 9:50:37 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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