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The group the 'Right Climate Stuff´ says there's no need to worry about catastrophic global warming
WUWT ^ | 3/8/2014 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 03/09/2014 9:27:59 AM PDT by Signalman

The planet is not in danger of catastrophic man made global warming. Even if we burn all the world’s recoverable fossil fuels it will still only result in a temperature rise of less than 1.2 per cent.

So say The Right Climate Stuff Research Team, a group of retired NASA Apollo scientists and engineers – the men who put Neil Armstrong on the moon – in a new report.

“It’s an embarrassment to those of us who put NASA’s name on the map to have people like James Hansen popping off about global warming,” says the project’s leader Hal Doiron.

Doiron was one of 40 ex NASA employees – including seven astronauts – who wrote in April 2012 to NASA administrator Charles Bolden protesting about the organization’s promotion of climate change alarmism, notably via its resident environmental activist James Hansen.

During his stint as head of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, Hansen tirelessly promoted Anthropogenic Global Warming theory. He retired last year to spend more time on environmental campaigning and has twice been arrested with former mermaid impersonator Darryl Hannah for his part in protests against surface coal mining and the Keystone XL pipe line. While still head of NASA GISS he once described trains carrying coal as “death trains” “no less gruesome than if they were carrying boxcars headed to crematoria and loaded with uncountable irreplaceable species.” Many NASA employees and former employees found his views an embarrassment.

Doiron and his team now hope to set the record straight in a report called Bounding GHG Climate Sensitivity For Use In Regulatory Decisions.

Using calculations by George Stegemeier of the National Academy of Engineering, they estimated the total quantity of recoverable oil, gas and coal on the planet. They then used 163 years of real world temperature data to calculate Transient Climate Sensitivity (ie how much the world will warm as a result of the emission of all the carbon dioxide in the fossil fuel). The figure they came up with 1.2 degrees C which is considerably lower than the wilder claims of the IPCC, whose reports have suggested it could be as high as 4 degrees C or more.

Doiron is similarly sceptical of the computer models used by climate alarmists. He and his team argue that the 105 models currently used by the IPCC are seriously flawed because they don’t agree with each other and don’t agree with empirical data.

Doiron says: “I believe in computer models. My whole career was about using computer models to make life or death decisions. In 1963 I had to use them to calculate whether, when the lunar module landed on a 12 degree slope it would fall over or not – and design the landing gear accordingly. But if you can’t validate the models – and the IPCC can’t –then don’t use them.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: apollo; darrylhannah; darylhannah; globalwarminghoax; haldoiron; jameshansen; keystonexl; nasa; opec; rightclimatestuff; spaceexploration; therightstuff; wuwt

1 posted on 03/09/2014 9:27:59 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

cold=low crop yeild.
warm+co2=good crop yeild.

(Generalization in effect!)


2 posted on 03/09/2014 9:41:00 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Signalman
Thank you

a New Chapter which should END the debate!

3 posted on 03/09/2014 9:41:02 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: Signalman

All Right! These guys are the A-Team!!!


4 posted on 03/09/2014 9:42:19 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Signalman

What is 1.2%? If it is Kelvin, that is 285 (avg. global temp. 12C or 54F) X .012 = 3.42 degrees Celsius or 6.156 F. to 15C or 60F


5 posted on 03/09/2014 9:42:50 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE!)
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To: Signalman
former mermaid impersonator Darryl Hannah

LOL!!!

6 posted on 03/09/2014 9:43:25 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: MeshugeMikey; Signalman

7 posted on 03/09/2014 9:47:42 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Signalman
Isn't NASA's primary mission these days "Muslim outreach?"
8 posted on 03/09/2014 9:52:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: Signalman
Doiron is similarly sceptical of the computer models used by climate alarmists. He and his team argue that the 105 models currently used by the IPCC are seriously flawed because they don’t agree with each other and don’t agree with empirical data.

Such models are worse than useless; they are dangerous if used for decision making.

If computer models can not reach the same conclusion with regularity they can not be depended upon to as a means to make predictions of outcomes.

Ballistic computers are computer models used to decide how to launch rockets or canons shells.

if you have two ballistic models and one model that tells you your canon shell will land on London and another tells you that your shell will land on Paris how can you safely fire your canon?

Of course the answer is that you can’t. If your models are so different that they disagree with each other by a large margin you must determine which is correct before you can make a decision.

9 posted on 03/09/2014 9:56:54 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Signalman

We got psychotic Muslims on the brink of getting their hands on nukes thanks to B. Hussein and Traitor Johnny and liberals are concerned whether or not Joe Q. Public is driving a Prius. Yes, a nuclear war is perfectly OK for the environment but not a freakin’ car.


10 posted on 03/09/2014 9:57:58 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

True, and hasn’t then been a successful effort!

It comes from all directions, the misinformation. My local radio station has a morning talk show. They always have someone on from the zoo to talk about the animals. This lame brained woman was talking about polar bears and how they were in extreme danger because of “climate change.” I contacted the radio host to ask him how he can let these lies go like that all to be polite with the nice zoo lady.

Let’s face it - if they can’t even tell us with much accuracy what the weather is going to be in a week, how can they even begin to talk about decades? Especially when they refuse to consider any other factors but human-generated CO-2 - no consideration of the multitude of volcanic eruptions, solar activity/inactivity, etc.

Fortunately, it looks like good men are coming forward finally to fight back. Our very survival is at stake if the Enemy continues to shut down all affordable and effective energy sources.


11 posted on 03/09/2014 10:07:02 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

They’re using Celsius...

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/executivesummaryboundingghgclimatesensitivityforuseinregulatorydecisions1402281.pdf


12 posted on 03/09/2014 10:20:51 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide; Signalman

12 Celsius = 53.6 Fahrenheit

12 X .012 = .144

12.144 Celsius = 53.8592 Fahrenheit

As Hal Doiron says; “It’s an embarrassment to those of us who put NASA’s name on the map to have people like James Hansen popping off about global warming,”


13 posted on 03/09/2014 10:44:14 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Signalman

14 posted on 03/09/2014 10:56:54 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Signalman

These guys put men into space with a slide rule. The idiots today can’t function if the internet goes down. Who will you believe? The ones who put their theories to the test or the ones who put their theories so far into time they won’t have to live with criticism.


15 posted on 03/09/2014 11:04:48 AM PDT by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: smoothsailing

With all due respect, I don’t think that’s how it works.

If I have ice at 0C and raise its temperature 100%, that would be 1.00 X 0C + 0C = 0C?

But if I go by total thermal energy above absolute zero, then I get a more rational 1.00 X 273.15 + 273.15 = 546.3K = 273.15C. = 491F.

You can’t multiply (percent is multiplication) heat in Celsius without dealing with the 273.15K that is 0C. Ice water is quite hot in Kelvin.


16 posted on 03/09/2014 11:10:56 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE!)
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To: smoothsailing

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/08/the-group-the-right-climate-stuff-team-says-there-no-need-to-worry-about-catastrophic-global-warming/

Download Dorian’s executive summary.

Telling excerpt....

“We have also concluded that increasing levels of GHG in the atmosphere cannot cause more than 1.2oC of additional warming above current global average temperatures, before all economically recoverable fossil fuels on the planet are consumed. This maximum possible additional AGW should be offset to some extent by a forecast of reduced solar output over the next couple of centuries, and that has already started to occur. Longer term, because of orbital mechanics cycles of the earth’s orbit around the Sun and small cyclical variations in tilt of the earth’s spin axis with respect to the earth’s orbital plane, we should continue a gradual global cooling trend into the next major glacial advance that should begin in about 10,000 years and last for about 70,000 years before the next major warming trend begins.”

It appears the coming Ice Age cycle may need to be moderated by GREATER release of CO2 or a human disaster similar to the last Ice Age decimation of plant and animal/human populations will occur.

With a 10,000 year horizon to the start, maybe Congress will have passed a budget de-funding the EPA by then and we can start burning coal again before we all freeze.


17 posted on 03/09/2014 11:20:00 AM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: Lowell1775
...we should continue a gradual global cooling trend into the next major glacial advance that should begin in about 10,000 years and last for about 70,000 years before the next major warming trend begins.

Doggone it. I was gonna take the snow tires off this weekend. BTT

18 posted on 03/09/2014 11:29:13 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Lowell1775

and just when I was thinking about buying a new spark plug for my lawn mower.


19 posted on 03/09/2014 11:55:14 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Don’t panic. If you can get a good deal now, just put it in the drawer in yer garage for 70,000 years and you’ll be fine. You know they’re gonna be more expensive then, too.


20 posted on 03/09/2014 12:00:32 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide; Signalman

the wording of the article is misleading and inaccurate:

” Even if we burn all the world’s recoverable fossil fuels it will still only result in a temperature rise of less than 1.2 per cent.”

It’s not a rise of 1.2 per cent, it’s a rise of 1.2 degrees.

Thus:

12° Celsius = 53.6° Fahrenheit

12° + 1.2° = 13.2°

13.2° Celsius = 55.76° Fahrenheit

and that would be the impact on the average global temperature after burning up “the total quantity of recoverable oil, gas and coal on the planet.”

So it’s easy to see why Doiron thinks Hansen is such an embarrassingly insufferable twit and his climate mumbo jumbo is so boneheaded.


21 posted on 03/09/2014 12:33:34 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Billthedrill
In 70,000 years I'll forget which drawer I put it in.

Heck, I'm still trying to remember where I left my can of WD-40 yesterday!

B^)

22 posted on 03/09/2014 12:41:30 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

perhaps the Most Important Mission Of All!


23 posted on 03/09/2014 5:13:27 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Signalman.


24 posted on 04/27/2014 11:12:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Signalman
So say The Right Climate Stuff Research Team, a group of retired NASA Apollo scientists and engineers – the men who put Neil Armstrong on the moon – in a new report. “It’s an embarrassment to those of us who put NASA’s name on the map to have people like James Hansen popping off about global warming,” says the project’s leader Hal Doiron.

Great find Signalman

25 posted on 04/28/2014 9:37:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats are waging war on the middle class...)
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