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Firefox Auto Update Question and What Happened to Michelle Malkin?
3/9/14 | Me

Posted on 03/09/2014 5:31:26 PM PDT by ducttape45

I need to pick someone's brain on a Firefox question and on what happened to Michelle Malkin.

First, I can't keep Firefox from automatically updating. I have tried everything I can find on the Internet about ensuring Firefox doesn't automatically. I have version 24 and 25 and I don't want to update any further, but no matter what I try it still continues to do so.

I've told Firefox not to update under the Tools/Options/Advanced/Update tab. I deleted the Maintenance Service. I've gone into about:config and deleted the update URL. AND NOTHING WORKS!!!!!!

Anyone else out there got any ideas? I want to keep using it but I'm afraid I'll have little choice but to go to another browser. Mozilla is really slitting their collective throats with this.

Secondly, I've noticed that Michelle Malkin doesn't seem to be on Fox News anymore. Usually the email updates I get from her would have links to her appearances on Fox News. Since about last October those links are no longer in email alerts and the Youtube sight for Right Sightings no longer posts anything newer than Oct 2013.

Anyone know what happened to her? Did she go a tick off someone? I wonder if it had anything to do with the sudden hiring of Elizabeth Hasselhoff last year.

Thanks.


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1 posted on 03/09/2014 5:31:26 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

Chromium seems to work okay as an alternative


2 posted on 03/09/2014 5:39:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ducttape45; ShadowAce

Ping


3 posted on 03/09/2014 5:40:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ducttape45

What do you get by preventing updates?


4 posted on 03/09/2014 5:41:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: ducttape45
First of all why don't you want any further updates?

There is a way I used for a while which simply meant keeping a compressed version on hand to use after one of those auto updates.

But as I remember the real fix is deleting some file in Firefox. I do not remember what it was, but I think the fix is posted somewhere on the Firefox site - Troubleshooting perhaps?

What was happening to me with v25 or so was flash vids stopped working.

After the fix all is well and am on v27.01. It can become a security issue unless you keep current.

5 posted on 03/09/2014 5:42:10 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: GeronL

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-automatically-making-connections

Read the whole thing, you have to use the url “about” for some things.


6 posted on 03/09/2014 5:42:55 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: ducttape45

Unless you’re smarter than the developers, let it upgrade.

Commentators come and go. Relax.


7 posted on 03/09/2014 5:45:17 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: PieterCasparzen; ducttape45

Dt45 was the one asking :)


8 posted on 03/09/2014 5:45:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ducttape45


Agreed — what happened indeed!

9 posted on 03/09/2014 5:47:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ducttape45

I’ve heard that Michelle Malkin knows how to stop Firefox from automatically updating..


10 posted on 03/09/2014 5:47:56 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: PIF
Firefox 26 and up don't allow for the legacy downloader screen. That's one. SEcondly, I don't like the idea of someone updating software unless I want it to happen. I don't let Microsoft do it, I don't let Adobe Flashplayer do it, I don't let Sun Java do it. I update when I want to update.

The idea of someone else having control over my software is very unnerving. I also just found out that Amazon Kindle for PC software has been replaced with a "cloud viewer." I don't want anything I own in a "cloud" of any sort. So I deleted the software and told Amazon I will no longer order ebooks from them until they change it back.

I'm happy with FF 24 & 25. I don't want to go any further. If they continue to change things I will indeed go to another browser and say goodbye to FF for good.

11 posted on 03/09/2014 5:49:48 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: PieterCasparzen

That doesn’t help me. I’ve read that article many times, and nothing it says to do helps.


12 posted on 03/09/2014 5:52:20 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

If you are running Firefox on a Windows OS based machine ...

Then you should see an orange-ish tab of sorts, near the upper left-hand corner of the Firefox window.

Click on it.

Look around in the resulting pop-down spread ... and find Options ... and click on that.

You should get a pop-out-to-the-side ... and find in that, another Options ... and click on that.

Next, you should be seeing an Options window. In that window, select the Advanced tool-button.

In the Advanced set of tabs that should result ... select Update.

Under Firefox updates, select:

“Never check for updates ...”


13 posted on 03/09/2014 5:53:40 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute

I’ve done that, it still updates without my consent......


14 posted on 03/09/2014 5:54:37 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

I heard Michelle Malkin is the original fire fox....but shell deny it if you take her to dinner.


15 posted on 03/09/2014 5:55:07 PM PDT by Therapsid
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Always gotta be a comedian in the bunch..........


16 posted on 03/09/2014 5:55:20 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

So ... I just woke up from a nap ...?


17 posted on 03/09/2014 5:57:50 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Therapsid

Hey, watch how you talk about my future wife!


18 posted on 03/09/2014 5:58:43 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: Gene Eric

Dude,,,,,,,,,, really? I just ate!


19 posted on 03/09/2014 5:59:18 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ShadowAce
I know this post is two subjects in one, but would it be possible to get this out to the IT crowd? Just ask them to ignore the Michelle Malkin question unless they have an answer for that too.

Thanks.

20 posted on 03/09/2014 6:05:32 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: GeronL

Sorry. That was clicko. :)


21 posted on 03/09/2014 6:05:34 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: ducttape45

Michelle is a Fox.

So what is going on at Fox News, and Firefox, right?


22 posted on 03/09/2014 6:07:08 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob ("The Pen" has a nice ring to it, kind of like "Graybar Hotel")
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To: ducttape45

Really, what version of FF are you on?

Exactly which updates are you concerned with ?


23 posted on 03/09/2014 6:08:22 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: ducttape45

Oh, 24 and 25. I see, I’m not there yet.

Lemme look around...


24 posted on 03/09/2014 6:09:58 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: ducttape45

Using the same route to the Update tab ...

Disable “Use a background service to install updates”

That is a feature of the Mozilla Maintenance Service:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Windows_Service_Silent_Update


25 posted on 03/09/2014 6:10:41 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: ducttape45

I had the same problem.

For some reason, Firefox updated to the new version. I went in and told it not to.
Then I reloaded Firefox 25.

It did it again.

So, I turned UPDATE off again, and reloaded FIREFOX 25.

It did it again, and THEN I REALIZED that each time I installed FIREFOX 25 it was defaulting to AUTO UPDATE.

SO.... I removed FIREFOX, Reloaded version 25 and immediately went into the settings and changed it to NO UPDATE.

It’s been OK since.

I don’t know if your problem is exactly the same, but sometimes it’s the easy stuff we miss.

P.S. Sometimes stuff gets put into SCRIPT files which stay even if you RELOAD FIREFOX. The way to fix them is to go to HELP / TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION and click on the RESET FIREFOX button. This will make is just like a first time INSTALL of Firefox and eliminate any ‘junk’ you acquired that may be causing the problem.


26 posted on 03/09/2014 6:10:42 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: ducttape45
In conjunction with having disabled auto updates under tools/options, you might want to try disabling the 'Mozilla Maintenance Service'

< %SystemRoot%\system32\services.msc /s >

Check this BleepingComputer article for background info.

27 posted on 03/09/2014 6:11:07 PM PDT by tomkat (3%+1)
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To: ducttape45
try again going to "advanced". then select "check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them".

Then--make sure it's coming from Firefox?

I admit I haven't been diligent at that last portion, but I can stave off updating for months at a time, if so desired.

28 posted on 03/09/2014 6:13:07 PM PDT by BlueDragon (You can observe a lot just by watching. Yogi Berra)
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To: ducttape45

Use the Firefox ESR version. It only tells you to update once in a while (like six months), not every week. It’s the version for “groups who deploy and maintain the desktop environment in large organizations such as schools, governments and businesses...” It’s the version I use, someone on FR pointed it out and I’ll be grateful forever.

In any event, I think you need to reinstall Firefox because it shouldn’t be updating without your consent.


29 posted on 03/09/2014 6:15:35 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Oh noes! Fox Fired Michelle Malkin?!?


30 posted on 03/09/2014 6:17:34 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Scrambler Bob

yep....


31 posted on 03/09/2014 6:21:27 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: First_Salute

I don’t even have the maintenance service installed, and it still updates!


32 posted on 03/09/2014 6:22:02 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: UCANSEE2
That's what's been happening to me. Every time I install it, it updates. I uninstall it, including all the settings, and then I reinstall it. I never tell it to install the maintenance service, yet it does anyway. It's very maddening.

Every time I reinstall it, I go immediately to the update tab and turn it off, every time, yet it still updates. I've also heard to never click the Help/About Firefox tab because that will also auto update the software.

Now so far I have FF24 running and it hasn't updated, so I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed (that's hard to do!).

33 posted on 03/09/2014 6:31:40 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: BlueDragon
try again going to "advanced". then select "check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them".

I'm half tempted to do that. But I'm afraid of what might happen! Pretty sad huh..... D:

34 posted on 03/09/2014 6:32:42 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

Perhaps Firefox Extended Support Release is what you want.

Link: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

I did some searching around about your problem and discovered you are not alone. Plenty of others out there complaining about the same thing.


35 posted on 03/09/2014 6:33:02 PM PDT by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: Rodamala

I hope not, but the sudden silence is telling. I’m hoping someone knows what happened.


36 posted on 03/09/2014 6:33:46 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: upchuck

You’re the 2nd person to suggest that. I’m gonna have to give it a look. Until Mozilla stops this nonsense it might be my only option.


37 posted on 03/09/2014 6:35:02 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

Don’t browsers have to update to remain secure?

Doesn’t Microsoft have to update to remain secure?


38 posted on 03/09/2014 6:35:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: upchuck

Got it downloaded, gonna program it in tomorrow. I’m too tired from fighting with FF to do it tonight. Thanks for your help my friend.


39 posted on 03/09/2014 6:37:15 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ansel12
Updating software to ensure it remains secure is ok, but, here's the concept that might be getting lost. I want to make the changes myself by loading the updates, I don't want someone else doing it for me without my knowledge.

It's the same thing with Microsoft Updates. I don't want Microsoft automatically updating my software. Consider the following:

1). If I allowed them to do that, I'd have a Bing desktop right now with a Bing toolbar in my web browsers. I don't want Bing software on my computer. Using the search engine is as far as I want to go with Bing.

2). I don't have IE11. If allowed Microsoft to install that automatically, I'd have to uninstall it because the Air Force Outlook Web Access Email system doesn't play well with IE11. So I have to stay with IE8 until someone in the government gets their act together and figures out how to make it work.

So as you can see from those two small examples, not all updates are beneficial. Overall, I WANT CONTROL OF MY COMPUTER, not some faceless individual or corporation. It's a choice, a preference.

40 posted on 03/09/2014 6:44:41 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45
Open Preferences (or Options). Click on the Advanced tab, and select Update.


41 posted on 03/09/2014 6:45:33 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ducttape45

Did you check out post 25 ?


42 posted on 03/09/2014 6:45:47 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: ducttape45

Resetting preferences
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Resetting_preferences


43 posted on 03/09/2014 6:46:01 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: ducttape45
I note that you have received some answers on how to make it stop so I won't add any on that subject, but allow me to toss in about $0.02 worth on the topic of updating. I agree with not liking software applying updates without my knowledge or consent. I especially won't let Windows update anything without my perusal of the updates, reading of the knowledgebase article, and then ok-ing or denying the update. Same with Adobe and Java. I also think Firefox is inflating version numbers when most of the changes look more like a 'point release' than a 'version change', but in the end they can call it whatever they please, it's not my software product.. ;-)

Having said that, I run Firefox on both my Windoze machines and my Linux boxes and Firefox is the one program I allow to update itself. Here's my reasoning (your mileage may vary). Firefox is the one browser that seems to keep up on its security. OK, supposedly so does MS with their InternetExploiter browser, but there is a difference. When an exploit is discovered in Firefox, they tend to get the 'fix' released rather quickly, like by the next update or interim update. Also if some unexpected strangeness comes from an update, Firefox is really quick to fix or undo the damage.

If you have been paying attention over the years, you will remember that Microsoft has allowed known exploits of IE to remain unpatched for time measured in years. Same with Apple - they ignored exploits because it would ruin their 'only Windows gets viri' meme.. Chrome I hear is ok if you want Google looking at everything you do - I don't. (I have no handle on its security side.)

For the record, I do use the NoScript addon with Firefox. That way NO active content runs on a web page without me knowing it's there. And with NoScript I can block googleanalytics so they can't snoop either (ruins the webpage's hit counter and thus rating with Google, but helps my privacy.. ;-)

Just my opinions and comments for your consideration.

44 posted on 03/09/2014 6:56:28 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: ducttape45

I have been trying to harden an xp computer for back up use, and updating seems to be the major part of security.

What I’m reading is saying that even plenty of security ware can’t be depended on to protect against system flaws, and browser flaws.


45 posted on 03/09/2014 6:58:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: ducttape45

I think I know how you feel.

Mongo and his 'puter just pawn in game of life

46 posted on 03/09/2014 7:32:40 PM PDT by BlueDragon (You can observe a lot just by watching. Yogi Berra)
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To: First_Salute
If you are running Firefox on a Windows OS based machine ... Then you should see an orange-ish tab of sorts, near the upper left-hand corner of the Firefox window.

That's weird. Mozilla tells me I'm running the latest version of Firefox (27.0.1) and I don't have any such orange-ish tab in the upper left hand corner of my browser window. My computer runs Windows 7.

47 posted on 03/09/2014 7:56:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: cynwoody

My Options window in FF looks pretty plain compared to the one you posted, and I’m running version 27.0.1 (which Mozilla claims is the latest).

I wonder why that is?


48 posted on 03/09/2014 7:58:19 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
My Options window in FF looks pretty plain compared to the one you posted, and I’m running version 27.0.1 (which Mozilla claims is the latest).

That screenshot is of 27.0.1 running on Mac OS 10.6.8.

49 posted on 03/09/2014 8:13:12 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
That screenshot is of 27.0.1 running on Mac OS 10.6.8.

Ah...that explains it. Nice graphic rendering. Much nicer than Win 7.

50 posted on 03/09/2014 8:16:05 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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