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Pope to stop condemning same-sex civil partnerships
Daily Mail Online ^ | March 10, 2014 | Hannah Roberts

Posted on 03/10/2014 12:29:14 PM PDT by redleghunter

Pope Francis has suggested that the Vatican could support gay civil unions in the future, according to one of the church’s most senior cardinals.

Cardinal Dolan told American television that Francis wants church leaders to 'look into it and see the reasons that have driven them.'

'It wasn't as if he came out and approved them,' Dolan told NBC on Sunday. 'He said, “Rather than quickly condemn them, let's just ask the questions as to why that has appealed to certain people.”

In an interview to mark his first year in the church’s top job, Pope Francis last week reaffirmed the Vatican’s opposition to gay marriage but indicated that some types of civil unions could be acceptable to the church.

The Pope restated the church's teaching that 'marriage is between a man and a woman,' but added 'We have to look at different cases and evaluate them in their variety.'

Some countries justify civil unions as a way to provide the same economic and legal rights to cohabitating couples as those who are married, the Pope said in the interview with Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera.

As archbishop of Buenos Aires, the then Jorge Maria Bergoglio was one of the leaders of the Catholic Church's public charge against legalising same-sex marriage in Argentina. He called the proposed legislation ‘a destructive attack on God's plan’.

But behind closed doors the Argentine archbishop is said to have supported civil unions for same-sex couples.

Former theology professor and gay rights activist Marcelo Marquez said: 'He told me “I'm in favour of gay rights and in any case, I also favour civil unions for homosexuals, but I believe that Argentina is not yet ready for a gay marriage law”.’

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1 posted on 03/10/2014 12:29:14 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

Goodbye America, It was nice knowing you!


2 posted on 03/10/2014 12:30:42 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: redleghunter

Welp, guess there’s not much point to the rest of the Bible either then...


3 posted on 03/10/2014 12:33:16 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: redleghunter

“Some countries justify civil unions as a way to provide the same economic and legal rights to cohabitating couples as those who are married”

BS. Follow the money. If they accept them they can convince them to tithe and the government can tax them as a married couple.


4 posted on 03/10/2014 12:33:41 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: redleghunter
“Rather than quickly condemn them, let's just ask the questions as to why that has appealed to certain people.”

You could also do that with any other sin from adultery to murder, but I'm not sure what it would really accomplish....

5 posted on 03/10/2014 12:35:35 PM PDT by apillar
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So it is ok to use civil unions as insurance fraud.

The old prophecy may be right.


6 posted on 03/10/2014 12:36:49 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: chris37
Welp, guess there’s not much point to the rest of the Bible either then...

Part and parcel of the great falling away.
When/if the Vatican begins to support homsexual anything, they can kiss their backsides goodbye.

7 posted on 03/10/2014 12:38:00 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: redleghunter

Have had my fingers hovering over the keyboard, trying to decide what to type. All I can come up with is ...

Wow.


8 posted on 03/10/2014 12:40:46 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: chris37
Welp, guess there’s not much point to the rest of the Bible either then..

Exactly. I mean, exactly how do they propose to explain away Romans 1?

9 posted on 03/10/2014 12:41:41 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: redleghunter

I wonder why the assumption is that civil partnership must involve people who have sex with one another? Why can’t legal protections sought in such partnerships apply to a caretaker and an a person under their care or to two very close friends?


10 posted on 03/10/2014 12:42:56 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: redleghunter
26 And as it came to pass in the days of Noah, even so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They ate, they drank, they married, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Luke 17:26-27 (ASV)

Welcome to the "days of the Son of Man."

11 posted on 03/10/2014 12:43:20 PM PDT by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: redleghunter

So I guess I don’t need to go to Church on Sundays or donate money either.


12 posted on 03/10/2014 12:43:22 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: redleghunter

“’If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?’

It’s obvious to anyone who wants to understand what the Pope said. He does NOT say they can be married in the Catholic Church. He says if a gay person “seeks God” then he will not judge them. BIG difference in saying he approves of gays.

Just consider the graces which could be dispensed by God upon those who seek God’s will.


13 posted on 03/10/2014 12:44:22 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.)
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To: redleghunter

I will wait for a better source than the Daily Mail

There seems to be a push to report that the Catholic Church is giving any kind of validity to homosexual behavior. So far all of it has been denied.


14 posted on 03/10/2014 12:45:04 PM PDT by kidd
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To: redleghunter

This report may or may not involve incorrect quotes, interpretations, and inferences.

However, dark forces in the form of modernist and progressive cabals within the Vatican influenced the Church especially in the 60s and 70s.

Not all Catholics were compromised either inside or outside of Rome.

True Catholics, being true Christians, and sustaining the true Church, persist to this day and will until the end of time.


15 posted on 03/10/2014 12:50:50 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: lastchance
Why can’t legal protections sought in such partnerships apply to a caretaker and an a person under their care or to two very close friends?

This is like asking if abortion is OK for cases of rape and incest. Find an exception to justify the whole piece of crap. We already have "power of attorney" for such cases.

16 posted on 03/10/2014 12:51:41 PM PDT by aimhigh ( Self defense - a human right.)
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To: redleghunter

I believe this is BS! Typical media misinterpretation.


17 posted on 03/10/2014 12:53:02 PM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: redleghunter

Who knows what’s in Dolan’s closet.


18 posted on 03/10/2014 12:55:56 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: redleghunter
Here we go again. Yet another “lost in translation” excuse. Ever since Francis became pope there has been one trial balloon after another, and every time the seeming confusion is somehow always wrapped around and effort to unwind from the scriptures.

I ask myself, why? Why is it that there has been this seeming ongoing effort from the Vatican to loosen scriptural standards? Why is there nary an example of a Vatican message of increased structure or discipline that has gotten lost in translation?

There seems to be a whole lot of trial balloons being sent out with a clear sense of plausible deniability attached.

I have a bad feeling about all this. To be perfectly honest, I think the Catholic church is itching to fall away and allow modern culture to direct their beliefs. Of course all this will be couched in becoming more “modern” more “relevant” to millenials or to whomever.

We are in very dangerous territory, but it could be that the wheat is about to get separated from the chaff in a divine way. My confidence in the Catholic church at the moment is very thin.

19 posted on 03/10/2014 12:57:37 PM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: redleghunter

“There will be many false teachers”


20 posted on 03/10/2014 12:57:44 PM PDT by Viennacon
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