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'Pawn Stars' store melts down $50K in gold coins
UPI ^ | March 14, 2014 | Danielle Haynes

Posted on 03/14/2014 6:16:29 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

March. 14 (UPI) -- A Nevada man filed a criminal complaint alleging his niece stole and sold his $50,000 coin collection to reality TV's Pawn Stars, which then melted the gold down.

David Walters filed the complaint with the Clark County Justice Court on Nov. 27, and by time police notified the pawn shop on Dec. 5, the gold pieces had already been melted down, Radar Online reported.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: gold; lawsuit; pawnstars
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The acceptance of $12k seems questionable in retrospect if she knew the real value.
1 posted on 03/14/2014 6:16:29 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Who melts down valuable old gold coins just for their gold?

Unless you are trying to hide something...


2 posted on 03/14/2014 6:17:40 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Well, since the niece pilfered them, who committed the crime?


3 posted on 03/14/2014 6:20:25 AM PDT by crz
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To: 2banana

So “Pawn Stars” turn out to be crooks...what a surprise!

Melting down collectible rare coins for the gold doesn’t make sense.

UNLESS you are up to no good.


4 posted on 03/14/2014 6:20:58 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: crz

It seems as if she needed money fast, a certain amount and accepted it. At least that is one interpretation.


5 posted on 03/14/2014 6:21:47 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: 2banana
Article: They weren’t worth what he [Walters] thought they were worth

Since they were melted, there is no way to determine the actual value, beyond the gold. So sure, they were worth $50K...

6 posted on 03/14/2014 6:22:19 AM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: 2banana

Who says the gold coins were valuable?

I read this story a few days ago on another forum. The rightful owner claims the coins were worth $40,000.

Sure they were. At least he’s hoping to collect that from his insurance company.

But to a pawn shop? Its just scrap metal.


7 posted on 03/14/2014 6:22:23 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: 2banana

“Who melts down valuable old gold coins just for their gold?”

Several gold traders used to show up at the gun show I go to. They sold several grades of coins, including one called “scrap gold.” This meant that the coins had no collectable value because of their condition and were only worth what the gold was worth.

Not saying I bought any of those or would have buried them anywhere.


8 posted on 03/14/2014 6:24:01 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: ConservativeStatement

I wish someone would start a “Pawn Stars Channel”. Then maybe they’d put some history shows on it.


9 posted on 03/14/2014 6:26:13 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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I have been a coin collector for a long time. I have NEVER run across a gold coin that was not worth MORE than the gold it contained. Never. And with this melt it was probably dozens of coins. Some were probably worth 5x their gold value. Silver coins are different. Who says the gold coins were valuable?
10 posted on 03/14/2014 6:26:33 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: ConservativeStatement

According to the store’s spokesperson, there was concern over the claimed value, so they had the cases opened and the coins appraised (at least some of them). They are claiming that the coins were not as valuable as the owner believed (or chose to use for the complaint).
It does not appear, on the surface, that the store did anything in contravention of the law. Sales at pawn shops generally include a statement from the offeror that he/she is the legal owner of the goods offered and the value offered in exchange by the shop is clear and accepted.
Seems to me the owner has an issue with the actual thief...
And, the store has an issue with a fraudulent customer.


11 posted on 03/14/2014 6:29:20 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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Nevada law says pawn stores must hold pawned items for 30 to 90 days in the event the original owner wants to buy them back. Coins are not subject to that particular law, though.

Then why did they decide to mention it in this article?

Also, I believe there is a difference between "pawn" (loan) and "sold". From this article, it appears she sold them. Even if coins were "subject to that particular law", her selling them would also give them the legal right to melt them down, from what I understand.
12 posted on 03/14/2014 6:29:58 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: DoodleDawg

Isn’t that the truth?!


13 posted on 03/14/2014 6:30:17 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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The acceptance of $12k seems questionable in retrospect if she knew the real value.

people pawn their stuff because they need dinero pronto...

14 posted on 03/14/2014 6:31:13 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: DoodleDawg
I wish someone would start a “Pawn Stars Channel”. Then maybe they’d put some history shows on it.

ABSOLUTELY! :)
15 posted on 03/14/2014 6:31:39 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: hoosierham

Nowhere in the story does is say the coins were “rare, collectible”...gold coins are not in fact rare. I DO however agree that melting them down makes no sense. The spokesperson said something about melting them down if the coin’s grader is not known to them. STILL makes no sense to me...either it’s gold or not.


16 posted on 03/14/2014 6:32:50 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: ConservativeStatement

If they didn’t have a show would this story even make the local news? $ound$ like he’$ looking for deep pocket$.


17 posted on 03/14/2014 6:35:03 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: hoosierham

Why do we waste so much money on our justice system when we have you? Defendants could simply be paraded out in front of you and you could judge them simply based on their appearance.


18 posted on 03/14/2014 6:36:16 AM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: 2banana

I think you’re right. The article I read the other day? It said that Rick was selling similar gold coins in his own shop for thousands of dollars. So why did he melt down this “scrap gold”?

Pawn shops generally buy at 50 cents on the dollar. Then double that as a quick sale retail price. If they paid $12,000 for the gold and got maybe 24-25 thousand in return for the scrap value, then they made a good deal. Could they later have held on to the coins for months and maybe gotten $30,000?

Who knows?


19 posted on 03/14/2014 6:36:55 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Mich Patriot

To my above post...some older gold coins are obviously rare and very collectible, but the story doesn’t say what they were.


20 posted on 03/14/2014 6:36:59 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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