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Vanity - VA Wants Veterans to Sign Up for Obamacare
15 March 2014 | Salvavida

Posted on 03/15/2014 9:16:12 AM PDT by Salvavida

I just received a letter from the Veterans Administration. Included is VA form 10-10EZ, "Application for Health Benefits".

The form touts that once a veteran is signed up, the will have "met the new requirement to have health care coverage that meets the minimum standard".

If I already have TRICARE for life, why would i need it? Looking at the date they want, I can only come to one conclusion: TRICARE WILL BE DISMANTLED.

There is no other reason. If you look at the intake form, it also asks for intrusive data (real property, bank accounts, property, etc.) And the form holds you to 18 USC 1001 for concealing a material fact or making a false statement.

What does my benefit have to do with my bank account and possessions? If I gave up my youth, and destroyed my body for 20 years of service, why does the VA need to know these things? What is the database? Is this meant to manipulate the numbers for Obamacare prior to the mid-term elections?


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aca; democratcare; donkeycare; jackasscare; obamacare; tricare; veterans
So my question is this: Who has had discussions with their representatives on this? What has been uncovered?
1 posted on 03/15/2014 9:16:12 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Salvavida

Knowing this administration, it’s probably to pump up the enrollment numbers.


2 posted on 03/15/2014 9:17:31 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2

Send the information to Drudge, FNC, Rush, Levin, et al.


3 posted on 03/15/2014 9:24:15 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Salvavida

I’d be really tempted to tell them to take their 10-10EZ and stick it where the sun don’t shine.


4 posted on 03/15/2014 9:24:41 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Salvavida

Scan the document and post it here and across the interweb.


5 posted on 03/15/2014 9:26:43 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Salvavida

The government’s thanks for its military.


6 posted on 03/15/2014 9:29:05 AM PDT by onedoug
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??

https://www.1010ez.med.va.gov/health/programs/index.asp


7 posted on 03/15/2014 9:29:47 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Salvavida

In a competitive world, a new insurance company would be saying, “Check us out. We’re better and less expensive.” This is noticeably missing from Obamacare.


8 posted on 03/15/2014 9:34:51 AM PDT by aimhigh ( Self defense - a human right.)
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To: smokingfrog

I got a notice that your link was an untrusted site. If it’s run by the government, that’s understandable. I chose not to access it.


9 posted on 03/15/2014 9:37:42 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: smokingfrog

The website you indicated comes up on Mac as follows:

Safari can’t identify the identity of the website you mention.

Could it be a fake site?


10 posted on 03/15/2014 9:38:21 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.)
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To: kitkat

I was wondering the same thing myself. Is the security certificate legit?


11 posted on 03/15/2014 9:41:56 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Salvavida
FYI, Form 10-10EZ
12 posted on 03/15/2014 9:42:18 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Salvavida

We live in a country governed by consent of the people. I withdraw my consent.


13 posted on 03/15/2014 9:42:34 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: TADSLOS
See Post #12
14 posted on 03/15/2014 9:42:59 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Salvavida

Even the blind could see this one coming.


15 posted on 03/15/2014 9:43:39 AM PDT by sport
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To: smokingfrog

connection is untrusted


16 posted on 03/15/2014 9:45:02 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Salvavida

I have Tricare For Life, and I have a yearly physical at the local VA clinic. Have not seen this letter, but will keep a look out for it.


17 posted on 03/15/2014 9:45:21 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Salvavida

It’s my understanding that VA benefits are and have been need based except for a few veteran categories. When you enter the system, they do ask questions about your net worth including savings, checking, value of your home, pensions and IRA’s.

Your benefits are determined by your net worth unless you served in combat or are a disabled veteran. For me, they pay for very little and there is a co-pay.


18 posted on 03/15/2014 9:48:49 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: headstamp 2

I know nothing about this, but I found a link.

Someone receiving VA care should probabley read this to determine any details that would apply.

How Does ACA Affect VA Health Care?
In general, ACA does not appear to affect current
VA health care benefits, eligibility, or cost to
beneficiaries.
However, the VA anticipates a net increase in enrollment as a result of the ACA. It could be
assumed that one reason for this increase is the individual shared responsibility provision in the
ACA, which requires each individual to have minimum essential health coverage, qualify for an
exemption, or pay a penalty when filing his or her federal income tax return.
25
According to the
VA, the increase will result from eligible non-enrolled veterans enrolling in the VA health care
system to avoid the shared responsibility payment.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41198.pdf


19 posted on 03/15/2014 9:52:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Report from SSL Labs

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=1010ez.med.va.gov

Maybe the VA is using the same outfit as healthcare.gov


20 posted on 03/15/2014 9:56:49 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: COBOL2Java

Thanks for the link. It looks like it is meant for people that never applied for VA care. When I retired in 96, I attended a briefing by a VA rep, who recommended everybody apply for VA care. Don’t know if they still do that.


21 posted on 03/15/2014 10:00:02 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Salvavida
Have you signed up for Medicare?

Medicare send us a letter a few months ago saying Medicare covered our requirements and we didn't have to sign up for anything else.

We have Tri-for-Life too and between Medicare and Tri it covers us completely (just a small fee for 'scripts by mail).

22 posted on 03/15/2014 10:02:48 AM PDT by grayeagle
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To: COBOL2Java

Got it. I should have been more clear. I’m more interested in the body of the letter sent by the VA and what might have triggered it to include the form.


23 posted on 03/15/2014 10:07:12 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Salvavida

On the way to dismantling the coverage for Vets through the VA system, I heard a man say if you like your health coverage, you can keep it.


24 posted on 03/15/2014 10:18:51 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Salvavida

I guess it means that you still have your current coverage, but it will not meat Obama’s requirements. So you will have to pay the yearly fine.


25 posted on 03/15/2014 10:41:18 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Salvavida

I just got one too. I have health insurance thru IBM (retired wife’s policy). It was cancelled last year but IBM got us into another policy (not O-care). I’m an AF vet, but never signed up for the VA. This letter says, “Our records show you haven’t signed up for VA, and when you do you meet the O-care standards.” I got the same impression they want to pad the numbers to make it look better. Eff’em


26 posted on 03/15/2014 10:45:49 AM PDT by W.Lee (After the first one, the rest are free.)
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To: smokingfrog

smokingfrog posted:
??

https://www.1010ez.med.va.gov/health/programs/index.asp

MY ANTIVIRUS SAID THIS WAS AN UNTRUSTFUL SITE AND NOT TO PROCEED!!!


27 posted on 03/15/2014 10:49:37 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

I know, but it appears to be a legitimate link from the va.gov website.


28 posted on 03/15/2014 10:55:57 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Salvavida

I got a letter from the V.A. stating that there will be no changes in my healthcare provisions, since I have been identified as a ‘%age’ disability, and I do not have to do a thing.

If you are below ‘30 percent’, there were papers, once a year, that I had to do, even when I worked at the V.A., that were a real PITA, and yes, they asked a BUNCH of questions.


29 posted on 03/15/2014 10:57:40 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Salvavida

Does Tri-Care cover maternity?


30 posted on 03/15/2014 11:00:23 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine

Yes.


31 posted on 03/15/2014 11:22:51 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Salvavida

The purpose of the Veterans Administration is not to help Veterans. The purpose of the Veterans Administration is to provide jobs for Democrat voters.


32 posted on 03/15/2014 12:14:04 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Salvavida

Unreal....Please spread this everywhere.


33 posted on 03/15/2014 1:14:32 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Terry L Smith

I have a ZERO percent disability rating for cardiac arrythmias which occurred during my army service back in the 60’s. The VA claims that since I worked a “desk job” as a programmer my disability wasn’t sufficient enough to compensate me.

My condition was downgraded back in 1986 to Congestive Heart Failure and even though I didn’t apply for VA disability until 1992, they still gave me the reduced rating.

I have been declared totally disabled by an Administrative Law Judge for Social Security back in 2000 but I am still unable to receive any compensation from the VA.

I also have been examined by the VA for knee and back injuries which I received in the Army and I am currently receiving Morphine and OXYCODONE for due to the disabling pain.

My VA Comp and Pension exam states that ALL my injuries including ear nerve damage are “MORE LIKELY THAN NOT” service connected but still no compensation from the VA.

I also have to fill out the yearly form for the means test and on the bottom this year it asked if I have applied for Obamacare. I left that part blank and submitted the form back in December.

It is now march and I still haven’t heard back from then as to whether or not I am covered this year. I have already cancelled appointments because I am not sure if I will be billed for them.

The Dems are out to destroy the military any means they can and diverting the funds to their illegal immigrant voters just to stay in power. The Vets mean nothing to the dems as witnessed by their efforts to keep the VETS absentee ballots from being counted in the last two elections.


34 posted on 03/15/2014 2:10:54 PM PDT by dglang
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To: dglang

Dear dglang,

Like you, I have a ‘similar-to-but-cannot-be-because the year was later than the one written-down Agent Orange exposure, so no money for that. I served three years straight in and about SouthEastAsia.

Like you, I had to sue for my 52 quarters of Social Security benefits, (the smart lawyer used all my V.A. records in winning my case), after my forms were denied three times.

In the meantime, before I applied for V.A. benefits, I had the discovery of, removal of, and treatment of, colorectal cancer. Since 2000, I have had one laposcopic, and three relocation surgeries, all picked up by the V.A.

As to our being ‘unclean’ by the Democrats, I agree. When Illinois State Senator Barack HUSSEIN Obama called the troops ‘baby killers’, on the floor of the Illinois Senate Chamber, and then became HMIC, I knew something was wrong.
BTW, Clinton did the same thing with the GI votes.


35 posted on 03/15/2014 2:58:10 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: KeyLargo
Great post. Thanks!!

You'd think the govt would know whether or not TRICARE for life qualifies.

I looked at one of the footnotes for this paper. SECDEF Gates declared that TRICARE meets ACA requirements. So it begs the question: What is the utility of sending this form out?

Also, there is nothing in the letter suggesting that any veteran is REQUIRED to fill out this form and send it to the VA. Something is fishy.

36 posted on 03/15/2014 5:02:06 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

Wild. I received a letter from the VA stating that the Instant Robbery Service and the SS tell them I make too much $$$$. They want to reevaluate my percentage and want me to pay after 37 years.
Coincidence?


37 posted on 03/15/2014 6:46:01 PM PDT by Bibman (Tea Party since 1976)
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To: Salvavida

Wild. I received a letter from the VA stating that the Instant Robbery Service and the SS tell them I make too much $$$$. They want to reevaluate my percentage and want me to pay after 37 years.
Coincidence?


38 posted on 03/15/2014 6:46:30 PM PDT by Bibman (Tea Party since 1976)
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To: Salvavida

I am the Post Adjutant at my local VFW and I always remind vets to bring such questions to their post Service Officer.

My question to Obama and his regime is where are the cuts to the programs for the millions of leaches in our Country who have not done anything more than take up space and take in oxygen?

U.S. Veterans
Are U.S. Veterans Selfish?

Mark Thompson @MarkThompson_DC

Jan. 26, 2014
MOAA
As the Pentagon budget vise tightens, those who served complain over cuts

It’s an impudent question, but one that naturally surfaces given the outrage rolling in from assorted veterans’ groups as Congress and the Pentagon seek ways to trim government spending that sometimes affect those who have volunteered to fight America’s wars.

It’s also the predictable downside to enlisting only 1% of the nation’s citizens to fight, and possibly die, to strive to achieve national goals.

When presidents and congresses insist on waging war with no shared sacrifice, it should come as scant surprise that those who have done all the sacrificing squawk when their expected benefits end up on the chopping block.

http://time.com/2077/are-u-s-veterans-selfish/

George W. Bush: We Owe the 1 Percent — The Military

on Breitbart TV 19 Feb 2014
In a speech at the George W. Bush Institute on Wednesday, President Bush gave remarks about the military and how that 1 percent protects the other 99 percent of Americans.

“Since 9/11, more than 2.5 million Americans have worn the uniform,” Bush said. “They have faced down our enemies, they’ve liberated millions, and in so doing showed the true compassion of a great Nation. They are the 1 percent of America who kept the 99 percent safe. And we owe them, and their families, a deep debt of gratitude.”

VIDEO: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/02/20/George-W-Bush-We-Owe-the-1-Percent-the-Military


39 posted on 03/16/2014 6:10:27 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Salvavida

My letter from the VA stated that, since I am enrolled in VA Healthcare as a disabled veteran, that I do not need to enroll in Obamacare. Sounds like they have qa different plan for the retired vets versus the broken ones...


40 posted on 03/18/2014 11:32:19 AM PDT by tarawa
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To: tarawa
That is what I would have assumed. But I'm retired also. Thanks for the post.

And Semper Fi.

41 posted on 03/18/2014 3:13:36 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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