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Texas Demands a Picture ID AND My Social Security Number for a Fishing License?
Me

Posted on 03/28/2014 3:08:00 PM PDT by not2be4gotten.com

And my out of state address?

What about I just pay my $16 and get a piece of paper that has the state seal on it and a serial number?

What is the point of any of the rest of this?

What is the Social Security number used for?

If I lied about my Social Security number for my, oh, so, important fishing license, because I have an outstanding parking tickets in San Francisco and I don't want to be denied my fishing license, because I have already paid $100 to go fishing, am I potentially up on fraud charges?

And if I am committing fraud, how many years should I get?

This is increasingly happening everywhere as I have been exploring this great country over the last few years.

And I am a 30 year database expert and I have to tell you that collecting this information, over and over again, is potentially very bad news for the common citizenry.

There is not one thing about this transaction that was potentially beneficial to me, other than to not be arrested for fishing.

All this does is further empower whoever the current people with power are.

I am fishing with Captain Murphy out off of South Padre Island tomorrow morning.

What, do they require a retinal scan to go fishing in a blue state like Massachusetts?

At some point this has to stop.


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1 posted on 03/28/2014 3:08:00 PM PDT by not2be4gotten.com
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Tell them you’re an illegal. No further questions asked. Here’s your license, sir.


2 posted on 03/28/2014 3:11:29 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Wait till you go deposit cash in your own bank account.


3 posted on 03/28/2014 3:11:30 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: not2be4gotten.com

16 bucks? How cheap, I assume that is just for a day right?


4 posted on 03/28/2014 3:12:45 PM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Why do they want this information?

Information is power.


5 posted on 03/28/2014 3:14:01 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (What we need is to sucker the fedthugs into a "Tiananmen Square"-like incident on the National Mall!)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

You might use the fish as weapon of mass gillstruction.


6 posted on 03/28/2014 3:14:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

You should have just voted. Nothing needed for that.


7 posted on 03/28/2014 3:14:52 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: All

To bad they don’t ask for this information when we vote....


8 posted on 03/28/2014 3:15:26 PM PDT by Maringa
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

She said “Type your Social Security number into this keypad.”

And with my eyes wide open, I said “Excuse me, are you joking?”

I was afraid that she, then, made a move to call the police, and the thought flashed through my mind to bolt out of the store, right then and there.

It is like “Can we see your papers” in 1940’s Europe.

To go fishing?

In Texas??????????


9 posted on 03/28/2014 3:20:53 PM PDT by not2be4gotten.com
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To: not2be4gotten.com

We need a drivers license and additional proof of residency (voter registration card) to get a resident fishing license in Michigan. I don’t believe the information is collected.

Obviously trout stamps are extra.


10 posted on 03/28/2014 3:24:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

We went to Tennessee for vacation last summer. They wanted my 17 yr old’s social security number and drivers license for a 3 day pass. Crazy!


11 posted on 03/28/2014 3:24:35 PM PDT by theycallmemom
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To: Maringa

Actually in Texas a valid picture ID is required to vote


12 posted on 03/28/2014 3:24:51 PM PDT by slumber1 (Moderation is overrated)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

That’s pretty crappie.


13 posted on 03/28/2014 3:26:32 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: not2be4gotten.com
You can thank the white knights for this.

Requiring this information was implemented to track down and imprison "dead beat dads" whos wives left and ruined them with unjust child support payments.

14 posted on 03/28/2014 3:26:59 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: not2be4gotten.com

You can thank the folks not paying their Child Support, or the zealots that have convinced Federal, State, and many Local governments that you must be current on said Child Support to receive a hunting or fishing license n large part for this IMO!


15 posted on 03/28/2014 3:27:02 PM PDT by thinkthenpost
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Input your SS number but off by one or two digits...you always chalk it up to stupidity if they bother you


16 posted on 03/28/2014 3:27:49 PM PDT by dennisw (Lenovo)
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To: Maringa

To bad they don’t ask for this information when we vote...
= = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Thought I saw the other day that a ‘lecture’ talk was being given by one of ‘our esteemed, glorious, leaders’ on a College Campus, with the topic being ‘Voter ID etc etc’.

NOW, would I be going out on a limb by suggesting that ANYONE attending such lecture/talk would be
REQUIRED TO SHOW ID TO GET INTO THE HALL,
especially if it were a ‘Government Official’ doing the Pitching?

I may be considered a ‘DUMB’ High School Dropout, with NARY a College Degree and have very easily figured out the audacity of having to have an ID to attend a lecture about the ‘unfairness’ of requiring an ID to vote while - UNOFFICIALLY - an ID is required for everything in life from a free ?????? card issued by the Government, UP to and NOT INCLUDING voting.....

Matter of fact, I needed an ID to get an ID issued by the state that ‘proclaims’ my Military Service.


17 posted on 03/28/2014 3:32:24 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --"I would agree with you BUT that would make both of us wrong".)
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To: slumber1

Does Eric Holder know about this?


18 posted on 03/28/2014 3:33:52 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

The Captain or the boat isn’t licensed itself?

I run my own charter boat here in Florida and even they don’t require all that for a charter license much less a personal license.


19 posted on 03/28/2014 3:40:22 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

They have no legal reason to request your social security number. Your Social Security number can only be required for financial transactions. I refused to give them mine when I got my last fishing license in Texas. They still issued the license. I had a valid Texas Drivers license which they used for the ID.


20 posted on 03/28/2014 3:41:13 PM PDT by BubbaBobTX ("The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

It’s all the rage, led by those who ostensibly want a federal ID card for voting. The favored constituents behind state socialists are following that stampede to implement even more thorough ID efforts. Residents aren’t buying various things as much as bureacrats and government-linked businesses want them to buy now, so maybe they’ll take it with fees in the near future. One of my bosses of the past, involved in several regulatory “community” efforts, preached more than anything else, “Control the customer!”

Besides, the ID efforts are required to avoid side effects of moving hordes of slaves and traders between all kinds of nations.


21 posted on 03/28/2014 3:46:31 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

You think this is bad I have to show my I D to myself....


23 posted on 03/28/2014 3:56:29 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: not2be4gotten.com

sounds like a data fishing expedition


24 posted on 03/28/2014 3:59:42 PM PDT by snoopy 'n linus
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Maybe they don’t want you to vote for the same fish, more than once?/s


25 posted on 03/28/2014 4:04:51 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: Starboard
Tell them you’re an illegal. No further questions asked.

Or give them the SS# that Obama is using.
Likewise, no questions asked.

26 posted on 03/28/2014 4:07:21 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

This has been the case in Colorado for probably a decade. One of the reasons is to check for dead beat dads. I shit you not! And the guy at the fly shop says they have to ask the women too.


27 posted on 03/28/2014 4:07:30 PM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: not2be4gotten.com

I agree with others...make a small ‘mistake’ and see what happens.

What they are REALLY looking for are fathers that owe child support. This is just another tool to force collection. If you do owe something, they could make a case that you are defrauding - if not (which I’m sure is the case), then it’s just an ‘honest mistake’. You will soon find out whether they are cross-checking names/numbers...


28 posted on 03/28/2014 4:08:19 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: dennisw
Input your SS number but off by one or two digits...you always chalk it up to stupidity if they bother you

That is what the Gypsy girls do when they break their legs, or something and end up in a hospital emergency room.

Works every time.

29 posted on 03/28/2014 4:09:53 PM PDT by not2be4gotten.com
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Call Eric Holder.


30 posted on 03/28/2014 4:13:30 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Come on, don’t be a bass to this guy!


31 posted on 03/28/2014 4:29:16 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Discriminates against illegal aliens. Sounds fine to me.


32 posted on 03/28/2014 4:32:42 PM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is a feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing corksucker.)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

one could “accidentally” transpose a couple...


33 posted on 03/28/2014 5:56:42 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: oh8eleven

Probably because you’re actually being issued the license to utilize the roadways commercially. Most states are like that, and very few people realize it. While a pain in the ass to go through the process of demonstrating you aren’t required to have it, you can “travel” without possessing a “drivers license”.


34 posted on 03/28/2014 6:03:17 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

seriously i bet they check against child support databases and will deny you a license if you are not current. they do this in other places.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 6:11:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Maringa; All

To bad they don’t ask for this information when we vote....
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When I voted early this year in the TX primary, I went in with voter registration card and driver license. There were signs everywhere stating that photo ID was required.

They didn’t want my VRC, just my DL with the photo. I suppose the DL was matched against another database.


36 posted on 03/29/2014 12:36:25 AM PDT by octex
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Yet they debate ID’s to vote in an election


37 posted on 03/29/2014 4:58:23 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Im missing a jumbo jet with 235 passengers has anyone seen it?)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

A little late on the response here.

I haven’t encountered the SSN request upon my purchase of a FL. What I have encountered is a request at a checkout line for my phone number. Each time I refuse to disclose this information. On a few occasions the clerk has told me they cannot complete the transaction without it.

I simply leave the items and walk out the store.


38 posted on 03/29/2014 12:12:34 PM PDT by Sparky21555 (The buck stops over there.)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

In New Jersey they require that you sign a statement that you don’t owe child support to obtain a hunting or fishing license. Maybe that’s the SS# purpose, to track down deadbeats.


39 posted on 03/29/2014 12:20:55 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Everywhere and in Everything, The State is rapidly closing in on the notion of individual liberty and eliminating it.

The frog in the slowly heated pot comes to mind.

In Twenty years, the sheeple will be completely tamed and The State will be all-powerful.

Personally, I’m glad I’m old and headed for the chute. It’s almost physically painful to watch this great land, the freedom of which was fought for at the cost of the lives, fortunes, and energies of generations of Americans, turned into a mindless Slave Plantation.


40 posted on 03/29/2014 12:37:23 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer
Personally, I’m glad I’m old and headed for the chute.

My son, who is only 30 years old, tells me the same thing.

He says:

"This is turning into a nightmare, but we will spend an eternity with G*d."

It is an interesting perspective.

I have 2 DUI's AFTER blowing zero on a breathalyzer both times.

Apparently the cops can now throw you in jail and confiscate your car because you cant balance perfectly on one foot, or something like that. They claim you are "high" and need to be "taken in for the safety of you and others."

And the biggest problem is this is happening everywhere.

There is no place to escape to.

41 posted on 03/29/2014 4:18:31 PM PDT by not2be4gotten.com
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