Skip to comments.[Tech] Character-based web browsers
Posted on 04/05/2014 1:36:00 PM PDT by re_nortex
With the news about the Mozilla Foundation and the desire of many FReepers to drop the Firefox browser, there are some viable (IMHO) alternatives, both of which are character-based:
Links is text WWW browser with tables and frames. It runs on Linux, Unix, OS/2 and Windows.
Lynx is a text browser for the World Wide Web. Lynx 2.8.7 runs on Un*x, MacOS, VMS, Windows 95/98/NT, DOS386+ (but not 3.1, 3.11), as well as OS/2 EMX.
lynx http://www.freerepublic.comAnd with that aforementioned single keystroke, a '=' in the case of Lynx, one can see useful information such as this:
File that you are currently viewing Linkname: Latest Articles URL: http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/*/index Charset: iso-8859-1 Server: nginx/1.2.4 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2014 22:27:39 GMT Owner(s): None size: 514 lines mode: forms mode Link that you currently have selected Linkname: Search Free Republic URL: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search
why would I want to quit the Mozilla suite of services?
sudo apt-get install lynx links
If you're using a Red Hat-descended system, this will work:
sudo yum install lynx links
If Windows is your platform, well, good luck. :)
Virtually all of Firefox’s revenue comes from Google!
On that subject, numerous threads over the past few days have been posted here on Free Republic, one of which is: Conservative activist launches boycott of Firefox browser.
I notice Windows XP and Windows 7 are not on the list of compatible OS’s.
None of that makes a lick of sense to those of us who aren’t techies. I’m looking for an alternative, but you’ll have to lay it out a bit simpler for many of us to understand how those choices compare and work next to Firefox.
Generally when I think of non-technical user's platform, I presume some variant of Windows is involved. Since I don't use Windows (only *nix: Linux, BSD and Solaris), I'm totally out of my element there. However, this link may be of some assistance:
I hope it helps! If not, as Kernighan and Ritchie phrased it, "...check with a local expert...".
Pale Moon. Almost identical to Firefox.
I had it installed, running with all of my bookmarks in less than five minutes. Not a single hiccup.
From the Pale Moon Facebook page:
Since several people have been asking about this: Pale Moon is in no way associated or affiliated with the Mozilla Corporation.
I use Lynx in a bash script to check/update my ping list.
My guess -- and it's only that -- since Windows is unfamiliar territory for me is that Cygwin may provide the "platform within a platform" for these text-based browsers, regardless of the Windows variant involved.
There's one more lightweight, text-based browser to add to the list and that's Elinks: A Full-Featured Text WWW Browser.
And of course in recent Emacs versions, there's always this command (which gives me a chuckle when I invoke it):
M-x ewwThat's the mode for browsing the web and it's quite feature-rich but still very fast. It's what I used to post this response, BTW.
FReepers help is greatly appreciated.
But I still don’t see the reason to inconvenience myself with something that seems to not affect mozilla.
How would they know I stopped using FF? Call me ignorant.
I do understand the point. Just don’t understand the results of making my web-surfing less convenient.
Well, Pale Moon DOES have a, “Donate,” link. To which I have done just that.
I’d bet that it’ll make Mozilla nervous....
You too? :)
Two years ago, I used Lynx to maintain my Titanic ping list. I did cheat just a little bit since I spawned it from Perl instead of a shell script. Arrays, hashes and all that stuff. I'd be dead in the water in terms of the web without Lynx, curl and wget.
Fight the Free Sh☭t Nation
Internet Explorer works fine for those of us who do not aspire to be computer geeks.
I’ve been using Windows and Internet Explorer since 1998.
Perhaps I’ve been lucky to just use Windows 98, XP, and Windows 7.
But they worked fine.
They have always worked fine.
As a completely average computer user, I have never understood the pathological hatred so many people have for Microsoft products.
“As a completely average computer user, I have never understood the pathological hatred so many people have for Microsoft products.”
So many were Firefox users .... Now???
A very small, very fast browser for Linux distributions is Dillo. It’s great on slow connections and pages load really fast.
“navigation with your fingers never leaving your hand! “
I use windows. My fingers never leave my hand!
Ha! I do enjoy occasionally opening up the URL to an enemy site to see what they're running with that '=' keystroke in Lynx:
Linkname: Daily Kos :: News Community Action URL: http://www.dailykos.com/ Server: lighttpd/1.4.31-devel-783a962 Linkname: Democratic Underground URL: http://www.democraticunderground.com/ Server: Apache Linkname: Elizabeth Warren for Senate URL: http://elizabethwarren.com/ Server: nginx Linkname: Wendy Davis for Texas URL: http://www.wendydavistexas.com/ Server: Apache Linkname: UAW.org | UAW URL: http://www.uaw.org/ Server: Apache/2.2.16 (Debian) Linkname: American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) URL: http://www.afscme.org/ Server: nginx Linkname: HillaryClinton.com URL: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/ Server: Microsoft-IIS/7.5
Thank you! I had completely forgotten about it over the years and am now building Dillo 3.0.3. To give you an idea of how long it's been for me, my previous NEWS file has this as the most recent entry:
Nov 2000: Introduced a new design layer between the IO and the Dw. We'll try to focus on table rendering.
I've been wondering the same thing. So the homosexuals "won" by shaming the former CEO of Mozilla out of the position for his support of anti-gay-marriage initiatives in California. His resignation does not mean that Mozilla products are now "pro-gay." It means that a very vocal minority made enough to a kerfuffle to force a man to make a decision for his own good.
If the next CEO comes out and openly supports gay marriage, Leftist/progressive ideology, and donates exorbitant amounts of money to Democrat and Socialist initiatives, THEN we boycott. Until then, this is just a fart in the breeze, IMO.
I wrote a python script to do same using the python URLlib2 and Beautiful Soup libaries.
You can see images and better formatting with links 2.
There might be a package for it in the repository for your OS. Looks like the homepage for it is here.
Re_nortex, thanks for the nice reply. Dillo is even usable on a dial-up connection. It doesn’t do the flash stuff, I believe, but I usually don’t need that. If you go to “tools,” you can check or uncheck “remote CSS.” Sometimes that makes a big difference. Dillo loads FreeRepublic almost instantly.
I appreciate it very much. The Dillo-3.0.3 configure/build/install process was fault-free and it absolutely flies!
There are also netsurf, midori, arora and hv3. I’ll try those out now.
Netsurf is very fast and has lots of features (including images)—looks much like Firefox at first glance here but much faster.
Arora is very fast and also has lots of features.
Midori, too—fast with features.
Hv3, greased lightening and featured, like the other three.
All show images and more features. I like and use text-only browsers myself when running from a console during custom installs. Most of the rest of the time, browsers that show images and have a few more features are nice. Of the four above, at first glance, netsurf and hv3 seemed to be the fastest. Will play with them a little more in time while checking security considerations for each.
Choice is part of liberty and, as this thread has shown, there are plenty of browsers available, both gooey and character-based. Since midori (now at 0.5.8) is webkit-based, it does everything well including HTML5. Not to be forgotten is Konqueror, part of KDE.
I had already ditched Firefox on my Windows laptops, where I’ve gone back to Chrome, but I’ve been using it on my Android phone.
It would be nice to use the same browser on both, with a free password app, such as Password Box, available on both of them.
if all Firefox users switched their default search engine to Scroogle or Duck Duck Go - would their money dry up?
Chromium seems okay
Make a list! Get their names, round them up, send them by box-car to the nearest FEMA camp. They must not be allowed to pollute our culture and our great nation! /sarc-irony(well, sort of)
Here’s a link to a Windows version of Dillo:
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