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How to Get the Real Start Menu Back in Windows 8 or 8.1
Yahoo ^ | 4-14-14 | David Pogue

Posted on 04/16/2014 12:33:36 AM PDT by kingattax

Continued support for Windows XP was discontinued by Microsoft recently, so many PC people may now be migrating over to Windows 8. One thing newcomers will notice missing in the latest version of Windows: the Start menu!

If you’re feeling instantly lost without the old Start menu, don’t worry; you’re not alone. Thousands of PC fans would argue that the Start menu offers a more compact, concise, customizable listing of programs and files than the tile-filled Start screen.

Microsoft scoffs at that idea. It points out that every time there’s a new version of Windows, there’s an instant spike in popularity of shareware programs that make it work like the previous version of Windows. Eventually, the public stops panicking and learns to trust the new design.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: windows8; windows81

1 posted on 04/16/2014 12:33:37 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax
What a joke.

It boots up to their version of a desktop, only to go to THE desktop when you select something.

Pointless waste of resources and time.

2 posted on 04/16/2014 12:54:15 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: kingattax
I'm waiting for Windows 9 before I replace anything. Just like I waited for Vista to be superseded.
3 posted on 04/16/2014 12:59:12 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: kingattax

later


4 posted on 04/16/2014 1:20:01 AM PDT by pallis
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To: AlaskaErik
I Bought a new machine last month with 8.1. I refuse to ever again purchase any device or program MICROCRAP developed until they pull 8 off the market and return to an XP or W-7 type format OS. W-8 for anyone {any many are still out there} who must use dial up service W-8 is a nightmare.

MICROCRAP made several major mistakes with W-8. The put a Tablet OS out as a desktop OS. They installed CLOUD which can not be disabled. On limited speed and Metered Usage MICROCRAPS CLOUD eats up Bandwidth. The "THIS PC" Window stinks and is a PITA to navigate and figure out where they hid commands. The darn Font on it is way too small with no means to increase it.

WINDERS 8 MISTAKE should have never been released for PC's. Their answer is an 890 MB download. This Pig already in GB's has nearly triple updates and patches that XP had over it's entire life and they still can't fix it.

5 posted on 04/16/2014 1:20:41 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

Try “Classic Start Menu” or a similar download


6 posted on 04/16/2014 2:28:36 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: John Galt's cousin
That only fixes the start menu or about one fourth of the problem. All Classic Shell does is make the Start Menu look like XP or 7. But still if you click on Documents, Video, etc it puts you into a Window called This PC. The Commands & general layout stink, are hard to decipher what is what, have them hid here there and everywhere and the Font is hard to see. Normal what used to be right click fast commands are gone. Even burning a disk takes the W-8 hide and seek peek a boo game.

Worse is the deliberately made it much harder to close programs like their X Box Music. Find the darn X to close it. The settings for various system functions are here, there, everywhere with no rhyme or reason except to make some people think moving command locations is a stinking upgrade. W-8 is Crapware. It is the worst OS Windows or likely anyone else has created.

MS proved with XP they could build a decent and reliable. The same with 7. But when Microcrap screws up big time they never ever own up to it. This is their worst screw up as far as PS OS goes.

Unless you like looking in this corner, that corner, or where ever all the time searching for things that were once easy to find Windows 8 Stinks. Some may get off on that thrill I don't.

With the IE I've had more crashes of IE in a day than XP in several months. Yea it's just wonderful. I also enjoy the few minutes it finally quits writing to CLOUD etc so then I finally get my turn using the computer.

7 posted on 04/16/2014 2:58:12 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: John Galt's cousin
Sorry about that the rant wasn't at you. It was aimed at MS. There was no excuse for putting out W-8. It is the Yugo of OS. The so called Apps chaps my behind. Master Gates will now Rent you some applications. That's B.S. Thanks to Libre Office I was able to recover some files that otherwise would have cost me about $100 a year to open.

Either MS needs to do better or they as a corp can tank on their customers dissatisfaction. Their choice.

8 posted on 04/16/2014 3:05:16 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe
WINDERS 8 MISTAKE should have never been released for PC's.

But what they did was to require the major resellers (Best Buy, Staples, OfficeMax, etc.) to ship back unsold Windows 7 packages as a condition of placing Windows 8 on their shelves.

That means that you cannot just go out and buy Win 7 if you don't like Win 8.x

That's a marketing crime, IMHO.

9 posted on 04/16/2014 3:33:36 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: cva66snipe

There was no excuse for putting out W-8. It is the Yugo of OS.
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MS must put something out every 2 years or so ... especially since they combined their home o/s product lines and their business o/s product line ... W8 is just this years “millenium edition” ... NOBODY running XP will “upgrade” to W8 , their computers can’t handle the extra overhead.


10 posted on 04/16/2014 3:34:56 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: kingattax

From the main screen, click on Desktop and leave it that way.


11 posted on 04/16/2014 3:36:01 AM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: cva66snipe

No offense taken

I have been using a surface pro since last June and I am still not thrilled with it either

now at work they changed our XP machines to Wim7. Italso has the “library” feature which still confuses me.


12 posted on 04/16/2014 4:28:16 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: kingattax

So I’ll take the other side. My old laptop running XP died. I bought a dell machine brand new with windows 8. $300. There is just nothing wrong with it. 2 days to get used to it and it is a great machine. Stable, fast, solid. Spend a couple of hours configuring it to your taste and it’s good to go.


13 posted on 04/16/2014 5:02:46 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: kingattax

I use Stardock’s Start8 software. $5 and I had my startmenu back, and set it to boot into desktop. Suddenly Windows 8 is usable.


14 posted on 04/16/2014 7:43:31 AM PDT by arielguard (Fasting without prayer is vainglory.)
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To: cva66snipe

Have you noticed the links in Win8 / IE don’t open?

Click on a hotlink and nothing happens. You have to right click and “open in a new tab” or “Open in a new window”


15 posted on 04/16/2014 8:18:08 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend
Have you noticed the links in Win8 / IE don’t open? Click on a hotlink and nothing happens. You have to right click and “open in a new tab” or “Open in a new window”

Yea and I've noticed more issues with it. Using Tabs which lessens the crashes means you can not tell what site you are in. I have 5 Tabs open all in FR. All say Waiting for freerepublic. In windows mode it will list where you are but it will crash if more than three are open. The most frequent page I see on Windows 8 says "This Page Can Not Be Displayed".

Another annoying issue that was fixed on XP IE8 but is back with W-8 is the disappearing typing. For example I'm typing a post and see a mistake. I go to it and back space and correct it. From then on what I type makes the text I've already typed disappear. It types over it. These are issues they have to know exist and simply don't care.

16 posted on 04/16/2014 9:23:09 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Neidermeyer
MS must put something out every 2 years or so ... especially since they combined their home o/s product lines and their business o/s product line ... W8 is just this years “millenium edition” ... NOBODY running XP will “upgrade” to W8 , their computers can’t handle the extra overhead

I'm still having to go back and use my XP machine for some task. At least it's functional.

17 posted on 04/16/2014 9:25:18 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Neidermeyer
MS must put something out every 2 years or so ... especially since they combined their home o/s product lines and their business o/s product line ... W8 is just this years “millenium edition” ... NOBODY running XP will “upgrade” to W8 , their computers can’t handle the extra overhead

I'm still having to go back and use my XP machine for some task. At least it's functional.

18 posted on 04/16/2014 9:25:46 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: kingattax

I am convinced that in addition to the monetary hostage tactics practiced by MS, they have huge faction of software developers who relish in F’ ing with minds for pleasure with PC users.


19 posted on 04/16/2014 9:29:44 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: imardmd1
But what they did was to require the major resellers (Best Buy, Staples, OfficeMax, etc.) to ship back unsold Windows 7 packages as a condition of placing Windows 8 on their shelves. That means that you cannot just go out and buy Win 7 if you don't like Win 8.x That's a marketing crime, IMHO.

I look for MS to pull support on 7 soon. Their attitude seems to be you will like what we say you'll like or else. I can understand needed upgrades for security concerns but what MICROCRAP did in W-8 was make a format so dysfunctional for a Desktop or laptop that no one wants it so MICROCRAP is forcing it. I hope they loose their butts on W8.

20 posted on 04/16/2014 9:49:26 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: catfish1957
I am convinced that in addition to the monetary hostage tactics practiced by MS, they have huge faction of software developers who relish in F’ ing with minds for pleasure with PC users.

W8 looks like someone walked into their kids play room and saw X-Box and Fisher Price toys and the kids said "daddy make us a computer like our toys".

21 posted on 04/16/2014 9:53:18 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

My biggest anger is having to re-buy the same software each time a new OS platform comes out. This is monetary hostage taking as far as I am concerned.


22 posted on 04/16/2014 9:57:26 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: catfish1957
My biggest anger is having to re-buy the same software each time a new OS platform comes out. This is monetary hostage taking as far as I am concerned.

MS has learned a new Con Game now it's called Apps Store. The software you once got with the computer for the life of it is now "RENTED" per year. I don't see businesses making the change to W8. Between the training time, incompatibility issues, and RENT, why should they? If a business is goiung top loose money why loose it to MICROCRAP when LINUX is free? MICROCRAP's edge with ease of use over LINUX is now gone.

23 posted on 04/16/2014 10:04:53 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: kingattax

I didn’t have a hard time getting the classic menu.


24 posted on 04/16/2014 10:06:13 AM PDT by dforest
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To: petercooper

That is what I did. Not too hard.


25 posted on 04/16/2014 10:06:59 AM PDT by dforest
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To: AlaskaErik
Windows 7 ain't so bad. Might just buy a copy and run that.

I bit the bullet and bought a new machine with Win 7 pro 64 on it and am having very little problem switching over from XP.

I cheated a bit and converted my old XP box to Win 7 for a few weeks before this machine arrived, so I knew what the basic lay of the land would be.

Saved the XP image of the old machine and reloaded it, curmudgeon that I am. I like what I had on it and do not use it for Internet now.

Wife has a laptop with Win 8 and I want nothing to do with it, Classic Shell or no.

26 posted on 04/16/2014 10:23:24 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: kingattax

free and very reliable and good.

http://www.classicshell.net/


27 posted on 04/16/2014 10:28:53 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: catfish1957
My biggest anger is having to re-buy the same software . . .

Yeah, well, every time you see a quantum leap in the hardware, MS has to figure out a new software solution to keep the information handling slowed down to a crawl on your old CPU.

28 posted on 04/16/2014 11:34:28 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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“But what they did was to require the major resellers (Best Buy, Staples, OfficeMax, etc.) to ship back unsold Windows 7 packages as a condition of placing Windows 8 on their shelves.”

Die, corporate scum!


29 posted on 04/16/2014 12:10:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: kingattax

I know a retired NASA engineer that bought laptop with Windows 8.1 installed. A month later, he still couldn’t find his way around the stupid thing. He said he spent most of his time trying to find things, rather than accomplish any work. He was so frustrated and stressed that I was afraid he was going to have a heart attack.


30 posted on 04/16/2014 2:21:45 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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