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A Top Hospital Opens Up to Chinese Herbs as Medicines
Wall Street Journal ^ | April 21, 2014 | Sumathi Reddy

Posted on 04/22/2014 1:43:29 PM PDT by driftdiver

Christina Lunka appeared nervous and excited as she sat in the Chinese herbal therapy center recently opened by the Cleveland Clinic.

The 49-year-old had been to many doctors seeking help for ongoing issues that included joint pain and digestive problems. Now the Kirtland, Ohio, resident was hoping to find relief through herbal remedies.

"Do you have something for inflammation?" Ms. Lunka asked herbalist Galina Roofener during a one-hour consultation.

"Absolutely," responded Ms. Roofener. "This is for pain, for digestion, for inflammation, all of the above," she said, handing Ms. Lunka a bottle with capsules of an herbal combination called Xiao Yao San, which translates as free and easy wanderer. The capsules include about eight different herbs, including licorice, mint leaf and white peony root.

"Please do not expect immediate results," said Ms. Roofener. "The first effects, three weeks. The best therapeutic potential, three months. It will be slow, tedious work."

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: botanicalmedicine; clevelandclinic; health; herbalmedicine; tcm
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To: driftdiver
"Have you EVER read the side effects of many modern western medicines? Death is one of the common listings."

Of course I have. You don't think Chinese medicines are without risks, do you? The fact that they haven't subjected them to rigorous studies, so they can't tell you the risks, doesn't make them any safer.

21 posted on 04/22/2014 3:11:23 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: driftdiver
"Have you EVER read the side effects of many modern western medicines? Death is one of the common listings."

Of course I have. You don't think Chinese medicines are without risks, do you? The fact that they haven't subjected them to rigorous studies, so they can't tell you the risks, doesn't make them any safer.

22 posted on 04/22/2014 3:11:23 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Without proper testing, you don't know if those medicines really help. You don't know that they aren't doing harm either.

Science, ultimately is statistics. You certainly can know if those medicines really help YOU. Scientific statistics is just necessary to know if they are likely to help a given population to a given percentage under certain conditions.

And you can make an educated guess whether something will help you or hurt you, based on all of the information available about the subject. From the point of view of the patient, it's the same as making an educated decision about trusting an MD.

It's a big world, and we're all responsible for our own decisions. I just think it would be better if it stayed that way. Because when indemnified bureaucrats are responsible for decisions, no one is responsble for decisions.

23 posted on 04/22/2014 3:35:13 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: DannyTN

The herbal medicines have certainly been subjected to rigorous scientific studies, just not in the US. They’ve also been used for in excess of 5000 years. The doctors and other specialists know a great deal about how they work and who they work best for.

Ignorance and a fixation with deer penis are not traits to be celebrated.


24 posted on 04/22/2014 4:11:46 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“They’ve been working for 5000 years and western medicine is finally opening its eyes.”

Well kinda. The pharmaceutical companies, like the unions,
have priced themselves out of the market and there are no
patents on most things that are 100% natural. They tried
to get vitamins regulated as class A drugs but that didn’t
work. Keep your eye on the “as the director deems” in
Obamacare.


25 posted on 04/22/2014 4:35:36 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: Slambat

They’ll probably try but as long as we can have a garden we can grow our own. Not everything but certainly better than the blue pill.


26 posted on 04/22/2014 4:38:04 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DannyTN

Oh, yeah! Traditional Chinese medicine is too cool. ;-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_traditional_Chinese_medicines

========= Begin Quote ==============
...
1.1 Human parts and excreta
1.1.1 Dried human placenta
1.1.2 Human feces and urine
1.1.3 Human penis
1.1.4 Human pubic hair
1.1.5 Ass-hide glue pellets
1.2 Deer Penis
1.3 Flying squirrel feces
1.4 Rhinoceros horn
1.5 Tiger penis
2 Reptiles and amphibians
2.1 Snake oil
2.2 Toad secretions
2.3 Toad-headed gecko
2.4 Turtle shell
3 Marine life
3.1 Seahorse
3.2 Shark fin soup
4 Insects
4.1 Beetle
4.2 Centipede
4.3 Hornets nest
4.4 Leech
4.5 Scorpion
[...]
7 Minerals
7.1 Arsenic
7.2 Asbestos
7.3 Lead
7.4 Mercury
7.4.1 Cinnabar
7.4.2 Calomel
8 See also
9 References


27 posted on 04/22/2014 5:09:05 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

Yeah thats a good source. lol


28 posted on 04/22/2014 5:43:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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