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Pizza Guy Shot By Philly Cops Is ‘Great Neighbor’ Who Works Two Jobs
New York Daily News ^ | Thursday, April 24, 2014 | Philip Caufield

Posted on 04/26/2014 2:14:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Teacher317

Then we the taxpayers should demand changes. Until then, it’s on us, and should be.


21 posted on 04/26/2014 2:35:39 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: nickcarraway

So let’s say I’ve been working, want to get home. Two guys in plain clothes yell at me, and maybe I’ve heard shots in the distance.... Why would I stop for them?


22 posted on 04/26/2014 2:47:28 PM PDT by RickGee
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To: nickcarraway

” he was arrested last week for simple assault for chucking a cellphone at his girlfriend.”

Cut him some slack! Why shouldn’t you be chucking cellphones at others? This guy deserves the medal and the cops should be shot instead.


23 posted on 04/26/2014 2:49:24 PM PDT by sagar
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To: lee martell; nickcarraway
My question is why is this article written in this manner. The story is fragmented and those fragments are repeated about three times in only a few sentences.

If you click the link to the original article, you will see that nickcarraway cut and paste all of the text from the original article to this posting, but neglected to separate out the captions below the three images, which duplicated snippets of the story.

24 posted on 04/26/2014 2:49:49 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: F15Eagle

August 1987. All the editors were killed and eaten by the rest of the newsroom. True story.

/johnny


25 posted on 04/26/2014 2:50:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Yo-Yo; lee martell

I tried to.


26 posted on 04/26/2014 2:58:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: JRandomFreeper

Officer: “Your eyes are bloodshot have you been drinking?”
Suspect: “ Your eyes are glazed. Have you been eating doughnuts?”


27 posted on 04/26/2014 3:02:38 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: Zhang Fei; nickcarraway
That's the thing about using black plainclothes cops - both thugs and civilians are liable to view them as bad guys.

It is a tough call no matter the race of the undercover LEO.

How about this: Undercover LEO's should be prohibited from using deadly force to effect an arrest or prevent the escape of a suspect - unless the police officer reasonably believes that the suspect committed or attempted to commit crimes involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical injury witness a deadly felony.

Well, in any event it appears the USSC thinks that is the law. If these cops are unable to demonstrate they had a reasonable belief that the victim was the shooter (physical description, witnesses, etc.) the taxpayers will write a large check. Even if the undercovers were standing in front of the victim's auto displaying their shields they should not have used deadly force.

28 posted on 04/26/2014 3:04:48 PM PDT by frog in a pot (The 2dA didn't grant a right - it preserved an existing right in order to obtain ratification.)
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To: frog in a pot

Ooops, talk about missing editors - scratch “...witness a deadly felony”.


29 posted on 04/26/2014 3:08:55 PM PDT by frog in a pot (The 2dA didn't grant a right - it preserved an existing right in order to obtain ratification.)
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To: nickcarraway

Holy car for Sunday. Cops went home safe.

30 posted on 04/26/2014 3:09:21 PM PDT by gaijin
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Why do i not believe philly cops when they say the feel terrible about shooting this guy?


31 posted on 04/26/2014 3:21:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway

Wonder how much of the story is true.

Right now, I’m assuming the two cops where black. Cause if they were white the victim would have believed they were cops.


32 posted on 04/26/2014 3:58:21 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: vladimir998

Well, I hope he makes it. He’s young enough to turn his life around.

***
Yes, prayers up.


34 posted on 04/26/2014 4:33:22 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: nickcarraway; null and void

35 posted on 04/26/2014 5:00:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Usagi_yo

It’s interesting. I don’t know what the race of the police was, but the victim is black. Which was not mentioned by anyone this thread.


36 posted on 04/26/2014 11:20:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Delivering Pizza in a hoodie, at night? Not a wise decision.


And gung ho undercover police at night should not be running around
without Officer gear on. This whole story is one big mistake.

37 posted on 04/26/2014 11:48:05 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: nickcarraway
Don't worry, citizens. The two Philly cops who shot 20-year-old Philippe Holland, the pizza delivery guy (who held down two jobs), are even now planning how they can finish him off. If Philippe recovers from the shooting, they'll figure a way to shut him up permanently before he can press charges against the cops. After all, Philly cops are a law unto themselves and they can murder anyone the please because “I got a badge, dude.”
38 posted on 04/27/2014 2:17:39 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, I wrote that knowing full well the victim was black. Even if the cops where black the situation would still scream out “be prepared to fight or flee dude”.

If your a law abiding citizen working your way through college ... giving yourself some reasonable smarts who are you going to be more afraid of approaching you at night at the end of your cash carrying workday. Two white dudes or two black dudes?

This of course references the a quote by some famous black agitator who was afraid when he heard footsteps following him but relieved when he looked back and saw a white man.


39 posted on 04/27/2014 6:39:22 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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