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New zero day vulnerability identified in all versions of IE
Cnet ^ | Apr 27, 2014 | Steven Musil

Posted on 04/27/2014 4:26:55 PM PDT by dayglored

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To: dayglored

I think this is what I saw:

http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-remember-some-xp-based-embedded-systems-to-get-support-to-2019-7000026449/


81 posted on 04/28/2014 8:01:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dayglored

We used to have to use IE on a secure website that uses certificates, but I don’t think they require that now. I’ll have to check that out when I return.


82 posted on 04/28/2014 8:02:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dayglored

I very much doubt that they will. There’s been talk already that 9 is going to be brought along more quickly. The OS may work fine under the hood, but I don’t want to spend a lot of time under there, I want the interface to work right. Metro reminds me of the old Tandy OS interface, or other tile-based menu stuff from about 25 or 30 years ago.


83 posted on 04/28/2014 8:11:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dayglored

I went from Win7 to Win8.1 and experienced a performance upgrade - more solid stability and lightning fast speed.

I never used Win8 but in Win8.1 you can boot directly to the “Win7 Desktop” and bypass the tile screen by just checking an option box.


84 posted on 04/28/2014 8:14:59 AM PDT by newfreep
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To: ThomasThomas

Thanks for the insight Thomas Thomas...


85 posted on 04/28/2014 9:24:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats are waging war on the middle class...)
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To: dayglored

To what of the “Metro crap” are you referring? The “Start Screen” vs. a “Start Menu?” Did you know you can already turn that off in 8.1? It’s a taskbar property change that takes fewer than 5 clicks to change.

I’m running 8.1 for a gaming PC, and it’s an exceptional OS. I don’t have a touchscreen either. MAK works fine for 8.1, and I would say 8.1 makes it QUICKER to do things from 7.


86 posted on 04/28/2014 10:58:57 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Care to expand on what “sucks” about it? I’ve found a lot of the “haters” are just spouting their disdain of the new look and haven’t actually tried it yet.


87 posted on 04/28/2014 10:59:44 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
Look, I'm not trashing the underlying OS -- Win8 is a fine OS under the hood, as I said above and in many other Windows threads. I don't bash Windows or Microsoft; I sometimes find fault with them just like I find fault with Apple and OS-X, and Linux, and everything else.

I've been using Windows since Win 2, over 25 years. I've moved from version to version, 2, 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE, ME, NT4, Win2K, WinXP, Vista, Win7.

At present I see no reason to move to Win8, because the underlying OS is still basically the same as Win7, maybe a little faster but Win7 is plenty fast for my work. There are some functions that are harder in Win8, which annoys me because there was no need for that. And all the extraneous GUI "crap", which is fine for a handheld phone, is not to my liking on a desktop. I don't want to have to work to remove it.

Saying that it only takes 5 clicks to make my computer look right is silly -- I already have a computer that looks right.

The simple fact is that Microsoft screwed the pooch with Win8, and they're backpedaling as fast as they can. Once they get it back to a reasonable level, I'll consider moving. I suspect, though, that it'll be Win9, not Win8.

88 posted on 04/28/2014 3:24:04 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored

Actually, it takes 1 click to choose to boot direct to the “Win7 desktop” screen.

FWIW, my desktop screen appears almost instantly on Win8.1


89 posted on 04/28/2014 4:25:48 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: newfreep
> Actually, it takes 1 click to choose to boot direct to the “Win7 desktop” screen. FWIW, my desktop screen appears almost instantly on Win8.1

That's fine.

Now for the real question:

What about Windows 8 is so much better that I should abandon my perfectly suitable Windows 7, -AND- pay a bunch of money for a Win8 license, -and- spend a bunch of my time screwing with it to beat it into something vaguely akin to what I already have?
Answer: Nothing, as far as I can tell. Waste of time and money.
90 posted on 04/28/2014 6:56:00 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored

I never used Win8.

That said, freepers like you post such vitriolic hate and lies re: Win 8.1 while posting adorations of apple. Not unlike the swooners that praise comrade obamatollah.

My post simply stated that Win8.1 boots direct to the desktop and the speed is MUCH faster than Win7 as well as being faaar more stable than 7.

Again, 1-click gets Win8.1 to boot to the desktop and you never need to see the Start “tile” menu screen.

If you choose not to upgrade to a better OS in Win8.1 that’s fine....but stop the trashing of a superior product.

Chill out, dude!


91 posted on 04/29/2014 4:08:54 AM PDT by newfreep
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WINDERS 8 Stinks all the way around. Several major issues besides the Start Up Menu.

1. Is incompatible with Dial Up Internet. The Morons at MS just put out a 900MB update. If you can't download it? T.S. no more updates for you. As of yet no Disk Release available for that update either. Why no disk if the consumer is willing to pay S&H?
2. Commands that were once easy and took seconds now require the user to seek work arounds because MS eliminated most Right Click/Left Click options in dealing with files.
3. If you don't like WINDERS CLOUD too bad it too is mandatory it seems. These sort of programs stink for those on metered usage.
4. Important setting purposely hidden in obscure places sending user on hunt the settings game.
5. The right side of the screen Settings window is annoying. When you need to use the stupid thing it won't pop up. When you are trying to do other task like scroll it won't go away.
6. The Browser seems to be hostile to using Windows instead of TABS. All my Tab Labels say "Waiting for...." instead of site name So it's a quesing game. Using Windows fixes that but more than 3-4 windows open crashes the Browser FREQUENTLY.

Overall as a customer who has used WEB TV, W/98, W/ME, & W/XP, with very few complaints I give Winders 8 a "0" or "F" rating in all categories. The security may be great but big deal because it is an annoying PITA OS. It's a Tablet OS cheapskates at MS tried to turn into a Desktop/Laptop OS with no thought whatsoever as to compatibility or being functional. It should have been pulled from the market by the fourth month and an official corporate apology made.

Winders 8 has more GB's in Upgrades and Patches than XP did in it's lifetime. Whty? To fix MS Corps design Boo Boo's. This is the worst MS release ever. Enough so that one should even think about LINUX since the training curve takes days anyway. If I owned a business and had to switch to W-8 I'd be pissed at the loss of time involved in "adapting" to W 8. Stay Away.

92 posted on 04/29/2014 12:47:18 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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1. Is incompatible with Dial Up Internet.

Expecting any tech company TODAY to develop products compatible with DIAL-UP (1980's technology) is stupid on steroids.

93 posted on 04/29/2014 2:29:47 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: newfreep
Hey Guess what some high speed internet connections LIMIT monthly bandwidth also. There are considerable number of users who due to living in rural area rely on dial up. They sell on line they buy on line etc. Some are small businesses, some are farmers, some are E-bay and Amazon sellers and buyers. Would it not piss you off for example to buy a cell Modem {If even it can work in an area} with a limit of 5 GB at a high price only to have MicroMistake release an upgrade to their previous stupidity that uses a fourth of than just for one stinking download? WHERES THE DISK? That's not too much to ask especially for a desktop user.

I noticed you can't defend the rest of my post and chose that one to hit on LOL. HugheNet the only choice for most rural users to get high speed has a low usage cap. Now don't you think it would be helpful if MicroMistake made it to where you could cut chit chat to their program partners to a very minimum and yes I have mine set for that after about the first week when I found that setting by accident.

Of course some will defend Microsoft no matter how bad they get. Some I suspect have vested interest in the sales thereof. LOL

94 posted on 04/29/2014 4:03:57 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

Good grief - go play on your Atari and “surf” bulletin board chatrooms via your 14k DIAL-UP...

What a 1980’s tech maroon!


95 posted on 04/29/2014 4:21:15 PM PDT by newfreep
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LOL Try 52k Connect. I live a quarter mile from the SLICK Cabinet if you even know anything at all about telecommunications. Allow me to educate you a little. The Communications Grid is not yet capable of offering large bandwidth use to many areas. There are many limiting factors. One is AT&T the largest landline DSL carrier has been in a non upgrade mode for quite a few years. They laid off most of their installation and maintenance crews when they buy up smaller TELCO's.

To even get DSL it takes one of two things. You must be within 18,000ft of the TELCO Central Office or that close to a SLICK Cabinet which is fed by a Fiber Optic Cable. See any cables being buried? AT&T knows something is coming but it is still about a decade away for nationwide usage. Landlines will be gone and airwaves are the replacement. What is holding it back? Several things including the auctioning of enough frequency spectrum to handle such a system.

AT&T isn't going to develop it but they will own the switching at least from office to Cell Tower. The cell companies to make this work will have to increase their tower grid substantially which takes time and money. The fastest way will be a lower orbit say at about 2000 miles satellite system which will handle most comms and internet. The current orbit of the birds Hugesnet uses are 20,000 miles out and make telcom next to impossible but works for Internet. As of right now they don't have a system in place which can handle what's coming.

Technically it can probably be said most persons have access to high speed internet service. Much of that though would be including I Pads etc relying on Hot spots etc. My cell phone even here in the rural area has some Internet capabilities.

The companies are putting out gear that many places are not ready for and in some areas overtax existing resources. Windows 8 is about 5-10 years ahead of technology in many places even in urban areas.

You'd think they'd notice no one is upgrading the grid needed to provide national high-speed broadband at the speed needed.

You forget something else. Cable Companies made a mad rush to come in and run Minimal Service meaning a few miles into some counties and thus getting no competition contracts. That means no incentive to expand and no one else can come in. COMCAST is less than a half mile from me. I've called, neighbors wanting service have called, etc. They don't care. Now pay closer attention. Ma Bell must by law run you a landline for phone services and can not charge you for how many poles or feet of cable used. In walks Cable who sells it all and is free to do as they please. AT&T knows better than to do others upgrades.

96 posted on 04/29/2014 5:11:39 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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