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Navy losing sailors and SEALs over emphasis on social issues
www.allenbwest.com ^ | 4/28/14 | Allen West

Posted on 04/28/2014 7:10:58 PM PDT by armydawg505

Hate to say “I told you so” but President Obama’s disinterest in enhancing our combat capability in favor of social egalitarianism and a warped sense of social justice is indeed having an impact on war readiness.

According to the Washington Times, “A Navy F-18 fighter pilot and former Top Gun instructor is publicly warning admirals that retention is beginning to suffer from the military’s relentless social conditioning programs. Cmdr. Guy Snodgrass said sailors are becoming fed-up with the constant emphasis on social issues — an apparent reference to gays in the military, women in combat and ending sexual harassment.”

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: bhodod; cicobama; communistgoals; dontaskdonttell; gaymilitary; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; musliminchief; navy; obamalegacy; seals; socialengineering; socialjustice; yep
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Those that grew up hating the military during Vietnam, those who would destroy it are now the civilians running it. They dont care a wit about its ability to fight and win wars, only that it be destroyed once and for all. If they can do it from within, fine, if not, they will find other ways. Barack Obama and his fellow traveling scum are the laughing stock of the world now, and no one, not our enemies, friends or anyone in the middle trusts us to keep our defense treaties. We have no military worthy of being called American fighting forces thanks to the Islamic puppet in the White House.
1 posted on 04/28/2014 7:10:58 PM PDT by armydawg505
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To: armydawg505

Who would want to serve with Bammy as CiC?


2 posted on 04/28/2014 7:12:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: armydawg505

I don’t like what is apparently the Navy’s new slogan: “A Global Force For Good.” The Navy, as with all of the other military services, ought to be a global force for the defense of the United States of America,not social workers to the world.


3 posted on 04/28/2014 7:16:12 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: armydawg505

If they can’t use the military against the citizens of this country, they want to destroy it.


4 posted on 04/28/2014 7:16:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: armydawg505

I know of two career Msgts and a bunch of other enlisted that left for the social issue reason alone.


5 posted on 04/28/2014 7:16:44 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Paladin2

Queers and Muslims.


6 posted on 04/28/2014 7:16:53 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: armydawg505

Save


7 posted on 04/28/2014 7:18:21 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Add Dykes and I think you’ve got it. My bad for old skool thinking.


8 posted on 04/28/2014 7:18:27 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: armydawg505

That’s OK. The draft will fix the problem. Either that or the military shrinks into irrelevance. Either way, the Dems win.


9 posted on 04/28/2014 7:18:37 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Paladin2

“Who would want to serve with Bammy as CiC”

I entered the military voluntarily under LBJ, which is in it self very questionable. I would never consider it under the messiah!


10 posted on 04/28/2014 7:18:49 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: Paladin2

A friend of mine said just the other day that he feels pretty lucky that he served primarily under Reagan. He says they were put on alert a couple of times but there were no big deployments while Reagan was in the White House.

He did end up in Riyadh for a few months when Bush Sr took over but no nation building games.


11 posted on 04/28/2014 7:23:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: armydawg505

Pissing off the most aggressive warriors so you can keep the pantywaists happy. D- on Strategery there, Won.


12 posted on 04/28/2014 7:23:24 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: armydawg505
Some may remember Gordon Gekko’s ‘greed is good’ speech from the 1987 movie Wall Street. He finishes by saying “...and greed - mark my words - will not only save Teldar paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA.”

If this particular species of greed doesn't show up soon (assuming it still exists), we're all in a heap of trouble.

13 posted on 04/28/2014 7:23:44 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: armydawg505

Liberalism is going to drive a lot of people away from traditional (& vital) institutions.

A friend of mine, who is thankfully retiring from her public school job in Los Angeles, said she has to teach her second-grade class about same-sex marriage. I told her I predict that the only places of employment for anyone socially conservative will be religiously affiliated — as long as they are not state or federally funded.


14 posted on 04/28/2014 7:24:46 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: longhorn too
I entered the military voluntarily under LBJ, which is in it self very questionable.

Were you in Cambodia with John Kerry back in 1968, at Christmastime? You know, while he was gettin' shot at by the Khmer Rouge and the ARVN, the President of the United States was telling the American People that he wasn't there, that it wasn't happening.

If you had been there, the whole nasty business would be seared into your memory, my friend. Let me tell you.

15 posted on 04/28/2014 7:25:16 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Steely Tom

Nope, never met Kerry but did get to see lovely Vietnam in 1972.


16 posted on 04/28/2014 7:28:37 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: armydawg505

We have no military worthy of being called American fighting forces thanks to the Islamic puppet in the White House.

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We do, but they probably feel as if they are under Reno and Benteen right now.


17 posted on 04/28/2014 7:28:57 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Paladin2
Who would want to serve with Bammy as CiC?

The asinine political-correctness, gay and transgender BS isn't the worst. Obama's ROE in Afghanistan are killing hundreds of Americans. something like 70-75% of all Afghanistan fatalities in Afghanistan have occurred under Obama.

18 posted on 04/28/2014 7:31:31 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Steely Tom
If you had been there, the whole nasty business would be seared into your memory, my friend. Let me tell you.

It would be enough to make you throw your medals over the White House fence--or someone else's. ;)

19 posted on 04/28/2014 7:31:58 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Steely Tom

And in a manner reminiscent of Jehengisssgz Kahn too!

that’s some serieZ seering!

SerieZley.


20 posted on 04/28/2014 7:32:19 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: longhorn too
Oh, that's a shame.

I don't think he was actually there very long, truth be told. Kind of a quick in-and-out, you know. He's pretty good at that.

21 posted on 04/28/2014 7:33:13 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

> If they can’t use the military against the citizens of this country, they want to destroy it.

BINGO. I suspect the soldiers would turn on their masters if requested to open fire on citizens without probable cause or any other good reason. The WH administration has probably done the math, hence the buildup of the civilian brownshirt police forces.


22 posted on 04/28/2014 7:36:32 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: MoochPooch
‘Liberalism is going to drive a lot of people away from traditional (& vital) institutions.’

That is the goal so the institution can be transformed in place. Remember Sara Lister the Army Under Secretary in Clintigula’s administration. “The goal is to change the white male paradigm’ as the pattern for the officer corps values. Queers, dykes,and malcontents of all stripes are to be welcomed so straight white traditional males will eventually be told ‘there is no place for you here’.

23 posted on 04/28/2014 7:37:11 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: armydawg505

Bring back sexual harassment?


24 posted on 04/28/2014 7:39:06 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: MoochPooch

That’s why people need to home school or send their children to private schools. I’m surprised the parents are not up in arms.


25 posted on 04/28/2014 7:40:05 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (She accomplished nothing: should have stayed at home and baked cookies)
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To: armydawg505; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


26 posted on 04/28/2014 7:41:56 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: PGR88

The ROE’s have been bad for a decade or more.


27 posted on 04/28/2014 7:44:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: armydawg505
is indeed having an impact on war readiness.

Yeah, let it happen. Let this sanctimonious, pretentious, murderous country become enslaved to some rock worshipping pig religion. Then maybe we'll awaken from our slumber.

The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: "From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage." - Alexander Fraser Tytler (later Lord Alexander Fraser Woodhouslee), in "The Decline and Fall of the Athenian Republic," published 1776

28 posted on 04/28/2014 7:44:57 PM PDT by LouAvul (In favor of reducing government to a more common sense entity.)
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To: armydawg505


29 posted on 04/28/2014 7:49:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 9YearLurker

Most military personnel used to kid around, not anything serious or worthy to be called sexual harassment. Then came the monthly sexual harassment classes for reservists and regulars, videos, and divisions. There were a few instances I am sure, but I never witnessed any violations.

The classes caused an uncomfortable atmosphere among men and women, because no one knew what was acceptable to say and what was not. Of course, the gays were not open at that time, so now I guess the tension is really difficult.

I think many say ‘bring back the sexual harrasment’ because it really wasn’t, it was bantor and letting off steam... not usually offensive. Now so many have an agenda, trusting someone to not be offended by kidding around is dangerous. The military is political and a battleground of political correctness or patriotism. That breeds discontent.


30 posted on 04/28/2014 7:50:46 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

I’m sure you’re right.


31 posted on 04/28/2014 7:52:30 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: longhorn too; Steely Tom

Shoot, Al! It'll probably raise your IQ 20 points and cure those nasty emotional issues!

32 posted on 04/28/2014 7:52:54 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: armydawg505

Who cares if we’ll eventually get our asses kicked by the Russians and the Chi-Coms, as long as we’ve achieved “tolerance” and “diversity” in doing so!!!

Liberalism: Being perfectly fine with Destroying and losing everything, as long as you feel “good” while doing it!


33 posted on 04/28/2014 7:55:09 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: armydawg505

We will all be protected by the gays put into place by Zer0. The Muslims who hate the gays are also being built up. Seems like a pre-made scenario to destroy us.


34 posted on 04/28/2014 7:56:22 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Just doing laps around the sun and shaking my head that progressives can believe what they do!)
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To: armydawg505

We will all be protected by the gays put into place by Zer0. The Muslims who hate the gays are also being built up. Seems like a pre-made scenario to destroy us.


35 posted on 04/28/2014 7:57:58 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Just doing laps around the sun and shaking my head that progressives can believe what they do!)
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To: Still Thinking

Notice Al does not have a mag in the rifle, although a round could be in the chamber, maybe he was not given any ammo for a reason. Kinda like Barney Fife, except Barney did have one in his shirt pocket.


36 posted on 04/28/2014 8:04:48 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: Paladin2
Who would want to serve with Bammy as CiC?

I am glad I was able to retire before this social crap really got out of hand.

37 posted on 04/28/2014 8:12:56 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Steely Tom

“Were you in Cambodia with John Kerry back in 1968”.

Audie Murphy Kerry never sat foot in Cambodia, he lied about it the same why he fabricated a Silver Star story and four of five Purple Hearts during his extended 4 month tour. He’s the lying scumbag that abandoned his men after 4 measly months in-country, so he could take his arrogant, privileged ass back to the states and start lying about war crimes he had “observed” and “participated in” in his long and distinguished 4 month tour........not even long enough to receive credit for a short tour! He lied like hell. He called us all war criminals and he knew he was lying. The majority of the other liars that testified with him never sat foot in country and some never left the states. All a bunch of lying, anti-war dope-heads. I despise the big-nosed male version of Jane Fonda. He should have been shot for treason, standing right beside the traitor Fonda.


38 posted on 04/28/2014 8:36:47 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: luvbach1
"...A Global Force For Good..."

As someone who served in the Navy, that made me want to throw my hat on the ground.

But they aren't stopping there, and not just with the Navy. The USMC is in on it with their "Toward the Sounds of Chaos" commercial. The USMC, for God's sake.

I fully expected it from the Navy after what I have seen in recent years. I didn't expect that from the Marines.

Don't get me wrong. Our military has always assisted people around the world when they can, and that has never been anything to be ashamed of. One can and should have the discussion on whether it is fiscally responsible or mission creep or anything else, but our military does benefit from these things in addition to benefiting others in dire need.

But to make that the primary mission instead of the destruction of those who mean us harm is disturbing and deeply disconcerting to me.

39 posted on 04/28/2014 8:39:35 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: NKP_Vet

The arrogance of John Kerry in his testimony and his lies makes me sick. And how he declared that we couldn’t possibly win, and that our withdrawal would not result in massive deaths.

Well he was wrong on all counts. Arrogant SOB makes me want to cuss like a sailor and makes me ill to remember that testimony he gave. That he hasn’t yet received a comeuppence is a failure of justice of the highest magnitude.


40 posted on 04/28/2014 8:52:06 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: armydawg505

41 posted on 04/28/2014 9:00:33 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (The dogs bark; the caravan moves on!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It takes a strong stomach not to puke after looking at the top picture.


42 posted on 04/28/2014 9:06:40 PM PDT by sport
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To: armydawg505

The military took a sharp turn for the worse when the liberals replaced “No Man Left Behind” with
“No Man’s Behind Left Alone.”

What the left is doing to our military is an outrage.


43 posted on 04/28/2014 9:10:06 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: Steely Tom

Was that the time that Genghis Khan was chasing little old Johnny Ketchup through the paddy fields?


44 posted on 04/28/2014 9:47:13 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: KoRn
Liberalism: Being perfectly fine with Destroying and losing everything, as long as you . . . .

. . . . can force normal people to accept your filthy sodomite practice with silence.

Get outta my face, homo's!

Keep it in the closet.

No, I don't hate YOU, but I am highly offended by your demand that I accept your lifestyle as NORMAL!

45 posted on 04/28/2014 10:30:28 PM PDT by skeptoid (the thought plickens)
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To: Steely Tom

You forgot the “hat in the briefcase” part >.<


46 posted on 04/29/2014 3:58:48 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Paladin2
The military exists to protect us... it's not a social experiment in being 'liberal elite'.

What's going to happen if the United States is attacked and the politically correct are required to fight? Are they up to it if experience soldiers have left?

47 posted on 04/29/2014 4:29:48 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Donald Sterling is a typical white liberal elite democrat - New York Times won't share that truth.)
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To: armydawg505
I justh donth knowth whatth wong width havinth gayths in dath militaryth. /s

So says our elected representatives and appointed officials from both parties. The United States hasn't had a decent Sec of Defense since the Reagan years. Sec of Defense became a political rewards position for either contractor/donor shills or liberal idealist.

48 posted on 04/29/2014 5:01:30 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cripplecreek
A friend of mine said just the other day that he feels pretty lucky that he served primarily under Reagan. He says they were put on alert a couple of times but there were no big deployments while Reagan was in the White House. He did end up in Riyadh for a few months when Bush Sr took over but no nation building games.

W's biggest mistake was Rummy. He was pathetic under Ford and tried to bring his same nonsense back into policy including the if you don't wanna be in just leave policy. Of course back then in Rummy 1 all you had to do was walk off 31 days and turn yourself in somewhere else. That was a major discipline and morale breaker that carried over into about the mid Carter term. IIRC it got stopped and if you walked it was bad time tacked on to the end of your EAOS.

49 posted on 04/29/2014 5:08:38 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: luvbach1

Totally agree...
It’s like the stupid “Army of One” campaign.
I honestly think, over the last decade or two, the senior brass have completely lost their collective minds, gone over to the dark side and sold our military down the river.....


50 posted on 04/29/2014 5:30:04 AM PDT by matginzac
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