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Off-duty Detroit police officer shoots would-be cell phone thief in the face
Mlive.com ^ | May 03, 2014 | Gus Burns

Posted on 05/03/2014 4:21:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek

DETROIT, MI -- An off-duty Detroit police officer shot a suspected robber in the face Saturday afternoon.


Detroit Police Sgt. Michael Woody says the officer was working a second job at a pharmacy located at 3611 Conant in Detroit. He is not a security officer for the store. While outside talking on his cell phone about 12:30 p.m. Woody said the suspect approached and demanded the officer's phone.


When he refused, the suspect produced a "nickel-plated revolver and the officer was able to knock the gun away, which gave him time" to run into the store, Woody said..


The suspect tried to chase the officer and was attempting to open the door and fire but the gun jammed. The officer retrieved his gun and shot the suspect once in the face.


The suspect is listed in serious condition but expected to survive, Woody said Saturday afternoon.


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I just caught this one on the news out of Detroit and found the reaction of the witness to be interesting in light of the changes in the DPD.
1 posted on 05/03/2014 4:21:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek
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To: cripplecreek
Video with this story.

Off-duty Detroit Police officer involved in shooting on Detroit's east side
2 posted on 05/03/2014 4:22:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: marktwain

Off duty cop putting down a thief this time.


3 posted on 05/03/2014 4:23:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek
was attempting to open the door and fire but the gun jammed. The officer retrieved his gun and shot the suspect once in the face.

so he knew the gun was jammed when he shot him???

4 posted on 05/03/2014 4:29:17 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

Well it sure works a hell of a lot better than waiting till he gets it to fire again.


5 posted on 05/03/2014 4:31:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

“The suspect was taken to the hospital but his condition is unknown at this time.”

I think is condition is probably unrecognizable.


6 posted on 05/03/2014 4:31:50 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: cripplecreek

Sounds like the off duty cop needs to get himself a .45


7 posted on 05/03/2014 4:32:28 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: cripplecreek
re: The suspect tried to chase the officer and was attempting to open the door and fire but the gun jammed.

Hmm. Suddenly, I see warning lights. May be just a reflex thought but reading the officer's statement that, “the suspect produced a “nickel-plated revolver” I started wondering. I am not saying it is impossible, but it sure is rare that a revolver “jams”.
Throw down?

8 posted on 05/03/2014 4:34:11 PM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Jonty30

From the way the witness talks its one vicious kid.


9 posted on 05/03/2014 4:36:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek
i'm not against it, but my point is if you or i did it, the cops would prolly call it murder...
10 posted on 05/03/2014 4:37:35 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Tupelo
Throw down?

Yeah right there in front of witnesses and everything./s
11 posted on 05/03/2014 4:37:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

So will getting shot in the face make him as smart as the hypocrite Gabby Gifford’s or as dumb as hypocrite Gabby Gifford’s?


12 posted on 05/03/2014 4:38:29 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: Jonty30

Lets face it, the man needs to put a smile on and move forward to his future as a prison whore.


13 posted on 05/03/2014 4:39:06 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cripplecreek

“The suspect tried to chase the officer and was attempting to open the door and fire but the gun jammed.”

A revolver jamming? I’m not an expert of firearms, but I would imagine the weapon was damaged, very dirty, or loaded with some very old, poor quality ammo (or maybe the wrong ammo type) for that to happen.

Again, not an expert on these things, so I could be 100% wrong (and I often am, LOL) about this.


14 posted on 05/03/2014 4:40:02 PM PDT by DemforBush (A repo man is always intense.)
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To: Tupelo
there was a story just the other day of a girl with a jammed revolver shooting another girl over a boy... strange
15 posted on 05/03/2014 4:41:44 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: driftdiver

So far there have been 13 justifiable homicides in Detroit this year and I’m guessing 3 times as many defensive shootings not resulting in death.


16 posted on 05/03/2014 4:42:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Tupelo

I have on two occasions hd brand new Remington .38 specials jam because the rim of the casing was slightly too thick, jamming between the cylinder and the frame.

So I never ever shoot Remington .38s.

The revolver was a S&W model 10.


17 posted on 05/03/2014 4:44:13 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: cripplecreek

What's wrong with yer FAAACE?!"
18 posted on 05/03/2014 4:46:06 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Can you hear me now?”


19 posted on 05/03/2014 4:46:11 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: cripplecreek

I’d say the lesson here is there’s nothing more worthless than a gun that doesn’t shoot... except for the dirt bag who thinks he can rob a store with it.


20 posted on 05/03/2014 4:47:20 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: cripplecreek
Detroit Police Sgt. Michael Woody says the officer was working a second job at a pharmacy

I was surprised a Police sergeant would be working a second job until I looked up their salary...

Median salary is 66 K a year...

You couldn't pay me enough to be a Detroit cop...

21 posted on 05/03/2014 4:47:33 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tupelo
I am not saying it is impossible, but it sure is rare that a revolver “jams”.

Until all the dust has settled, take everything with a grain of salt.

I once heard WXYZ's Bill Proctor report that "Detroit Police were looking for a .357 Smith and Wesson Glock pistol........"

And in another story, a Detroit school student was caught bringing an assault rifle into the school. In a followup story several days later, the "assault" rifle turned out to be a shotgun.......

22 posted on 05/03/2014 4:49:23 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: DemforBush

I have a 22mag revolver that will jam if not kept clean. 22 mag is really dirty. I had a titanium, very light weight snubbie in 357 that would often bind the cylinder due to crimp jumping.


23 posted on 05/03/2014 4:49:43 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Tupelo
it sure is rare that a revolver “jams”.

I think you are correct, but it can happen. Some 20 years ago I was target shooting with my Taurus .357 magnum and as I pulled the trigger, nothing happened. The hammer would not drop and neither would the cylinder drop out to get the round out. I tried a number of things but to no avail. I finally had to take it to a gunsmith to get the damn thing unjammed. It was dangerous in the condition it was in, too!

24 posted on 05/03/2014 4:52:13 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Tupelo

I caught that, too. A revolver rarely jams but they can misfire, due to bad ammo?


25 posted on 05/03/2014 4:52:31 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: cripplecreek

Maybe the thief had face armor made out of DOGS...?

Good shot, all the same.


26 posted on 05/03/2014 4:55:20 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: G Larry

LOL


27 posted on 05/03/2014 4:57:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Constitutional Patriot

More range time, also?


28 posted on 05/03/2014 4:59:23 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Yeah I think I’d blame the “jam” on the reporting.


29 posted on 05/03/2014 5:00:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

Why this poor child! Shot in the face no less. He didn’t deserve that. That off duty cop had no business carrying a weapon and shooting him, since he wasn’t defending his own home.


30 posted on 05/03/2014 5:06:30 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (Don't make me use the sarcasm tag)
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To: Tupelo

My question is if a suspect produced a gun and you had a chance to bat it away, if you are armed, you do not turn and run after batting the gun away. Funny the officer did not go for his gun first.


31 posted on 05/03/2014 5:12:38 PM PDT by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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To: cripplecreek
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32 posted on 05/03/2014 5:13:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: DemforBush
I've used revolvers for 50 plus years and never had one to "jam".

I would imagine the weapon was damaged, very dirty, or loaded with some very old, poor quality ammo (or maybe the wrong ammo type) for that to happen.

I believe you're right.

33 posted on 05/03/2014 5:19:28 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Cor 16: 32)
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To: Chode

No I would not


34 posted on 05/03/2014 5:19:46 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (I am the Tea Party bully who took Mitch McConnell's milk money.)
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To: Tupelo

Gun may have been ‘injured’ when the officer slapped it out of the little perps hand. Also it might be a North American Arms five shot derringer which is single action only and requires cocking the hammer to fire it ... in his excitement the little twerp may have been to flustered to cock the hammer.


35 posted on 05/03/2014 5:31:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
thank God...
36 posted on 05/03/2014 5:41:48 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: DemforBush
"A revolver jamming? "

Yup. It can happen. I've had my revolvers fail me more often than my semi-autos. Main cause: light firing pin strikes, and cylinders out of alignment. Lack of cleaning and use of cheap ammo will most often produce a build up at the forcing cone and cylinder face, eventually stopping the cylinder from turning. Sand, pocket lint, dirt, mud, anything gets in a revolver's lock works and it's game over.
37 posted on 05/03/2014 5:42:57 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: cripplecreek

Karma for the crook.


38 posted on 05/03/2014 5:59:26 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: driftdiver

Barry is quite concerned about racism in death penalty sentences. If perpetrators of violent crime were a majority of whites, would he be as concerned?


39 posted on 05/03/2014 6:03:09 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Graybeard58

You’re likely use QUALITY revolvers for 50 years and never had a jam.

There’s some real crap out there, however. S&W, Colt and Ruger are quality revolvers.

Charter Arms is a so-so quality revolver.

Then there’s some absolutely festerous crap out there. RG and Rohm - made in Germany, of all places. CDM (I seem to recall - years since I’ve seen one) out of NYC in the 50’s and 60’s.

Even Colts will jam up if you mistreat them. Use a Colt to pistol-whip someone or use the butt as a hammer, and you’ll throw it out of time so well that it will probably carry up once and be done until you open it up.


40 posted on 05/03/2014 6:15:29 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: MamaDearest

Heck he doesnt even care about us ambassadors who are white.


41 posted on 05/03/2014 6:18:42 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: NVDave

My father, deceased, lived in a world where shooting people breaking into your home had to be shot in the house and it was better if they were armed. My father had a Rohm revolver for just such occasions to make sure, after the fact, that the burglar was armed by the time the coroner arrived.


42 posted on 05/03/2014 6:24:34 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Fee

“The officer retrieved his gun and shot the suspect once in the face.”

Apparently the off duty cop left his gun inside the store


43 posted on 05/03/2014 6:41:24 PM PDT by Figment
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To: cripplecreek

revolver jammed?


44 posted on 05/03/2014 6:59:48 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: cripplecreek
The suspect is listed in serious condition but expected to survive, Woody said Saturday afternoon.

Well, I suppose not all of the stories of this kind of thug behavior can end ideally...

Kudos to the off-duty cop. He might need more range time, though.

45 posted on 05/03/2014 7:19:27 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: DemforBush; cripplecreek

I had a revolver jam once - it came with some reloaded rounds, and the bullet wasn’t seated correctly on one of the rounds.

I didn’t fire the rest of the reloads.


46 posted on 05/03/2014 8:59:23 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: DemforBush

my GUESS is this is typical 2014 journalism by a lazy journalist educated in a government school. If the gun mis-fired at all, and IF it was a revolver, and if it was a relatively new revolver, then the likely thing that happened was a bad primer and the gun mis-fired but didn’t jam.

The cop seeing the hammer go down and maybe hearing it too, probably said F it and pulled his trigger.


47 posted on 05/05/2014 5:46:50 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Tupelo

Revolvers can jam, by the cylinder binding. It is MOST COMMON on .22 revolvers, (many of which are cheaply made) due to the excess lead shavings and copious powder residue where the cylinder meets the breech of the barrel. To prevent, clean the gun a LOT. Centerfires, much more reliable.


48 posted on 05/08/2014 12:34:50 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Tupelo
Should be "a quality, well maintained revolver loaded with the appropriate, quality ammunition rarely jams".

Story here on FR a few months ago, a pos tried carjacking a family, put the .38 Spl revolver to the father's head and pulled the trigger. Fortunately had it loaded with .380 auto rounds.

49 posted on 05/11/2014 5:19:47 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?e)
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To: Tupelo

I was wondering the same thing. Revolver jamming?


50 posted on 09/15/2014 2:11:40 PM PDT by ladyjane
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