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Traffic chaos after bridge the size of a football field COLLAPSES onto the main freeway from Los..
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 6, 2014 | James Gordon

Posted on 05/06/2014 10:51:17 AM PDT by C19fan

For almost a year and a half workers had been constructing a bridge to cross the main Interstate that runs between Los Angeles and Las Vegas, but it took just minutes to bring the entire structure crashing to the ground. The blaze began after a construction workers' blowtorch was fanned by strong winds and ignited the wooden scaffolding that was being used to build the new flyover, across Interstate 15 in Herperia, California. Driven by high winds, the fire took hold extremely quickly and began burning the supports surrounding the bridge. Debris began to fell onto the I-15 minutes after the fire began, the road was eventually closed to traffic at 1:30pm yesterday as the $32 million construction project slowly turned into a pile of ash and twisted metal.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Outdoors; Travel
KEYWORDS: bridge; california; dontkillthejob; hesperia; la; look4theunionlabel; michaelmoorecrossing; rosiewashere; southerncalifornia; whoops
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Stand by for the I-15 truthers.


41 posted on 05/06/2014 11:27:51 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: C19fan
Obama did say to stop going to Las Vegas.

-PJ

42 posted on 05/06/2014 11:28:48 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: null and void
Here in Texas, they tend to build bridges over existing roadways one side at a time and divert traffic to the other side temporarily.

But we are just a bunch of hicks down here - not sophisticated like those Cali folks...

43 posted on 05/06/2014 11:29:28 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: lacrew

Thanks, I see them now.
Is this common practice for that type of construction in CA?


44 posted on 05/06/2014 11:33:02 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: moose07; Darksheare

I’m way too late to make sense of this. Would quote Darks but too late.


45 posted on 05/06/2014 11:36:05 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: lacrew

Proof positive the truthers were wrong.


46 posted on 05/06/2014 11:37:49 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: C19fan

they should get tha guy who rebuilt all them bridges in record time after the earthquake


47 posted on 05/06/2014 11:42:48 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: moose07

I really don’t know if this is common in CA. I went to
Google street view and found both concrete and steel bridges on I-15 in that area - but always pre-cast concrete.

Building forms like that is usually associated with construction where long term traffic disruption is not a problem. And this bridge was a brand new connection across I-15, so quick timing wasn’t really an issue. Now there is the small matter of having to protect the motorists below from falling debris for months and months.

I have a suspicion - for ARRA projects (Stimulus), there is a ‘buy American’ provision. Its possible that in California, so much of the steel comes from China, that concrete has become the preferred material for Stimulus projects. However, I really don’t know why they wouldn’t pre-cast on what looks like a very normal bridge.


48 posted on 05/06/2014 11:43:39 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

It was covered locally — including live aerial shots.


49 posted on 05/06/2014 11:46:08 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Southack

Have probably logged about a million miles (no joke) driving in SoCal, I’ve never seen anything other than wooden falsework on freeway bridge projects.


50 posted on 05/06/2014 11:47:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: C19fan
The new WMD.
51 posted on 05/06/2014 11:47:47 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: 5thGenTexan
Here in Texas, they tend to build bridges over existing roadways one side at a time and divert traffic to the other side temporarily.

Here in Texas, they build bridges largely out of pre-cast beams, rather than casting them in place. Casting in place has the significant benefit of employing dozens of extra workers, all of whom will vote for more of the same.

A great comparison between California hwy construction vs. Texas hwy construction is the 8 years it took to build a single connection between I-880 and Cal 237 and the less than 4 years it took to build the entire "High-Five" interchange between I-635 and US-75 in Dallas.

California loves their make-work, long-duration highway construction projects. With the single exception of I-35, Texas prefers completed highway projects.

I've lived both places. If you like California, please stay there.

52 posted on 05/06/2014 11:48:18 AM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: lacrew

OSHA = Ordinary S__t Happened Again.
The are always there after the incident.
The rules, at my company, were when using any fire or spark producing equipment , PROPER extinguishers where to be at that exact location.

You are absolutely correct.
“Everything in order.
Except important stuff like a water truck.”


53 posted on 05/06/2014 11:50:20 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: no-to-illegals

“Proof positive the truthers were wrong.”

Oh, no doubt. If you walk into a high rise building, built in the last 75 years, it will have fireproofing - stuff sprayed onto the steel members.

Its not a big secret that heat and steel don’t mix, and fireproofing has been embedded into building codes for a very long time.

But the Truther argument is a classic strawman argument:

“There is no way fire melted steel”.

Well, they are right. And just like that, they’ve put the opposition in the impossible position of defending the notion that common fire melts steel....melted, as in changed to a liquid state.

While it is possible that deep in the pile of rubble, the weeks long fires did melt some of the steel, that was not the cause of the collapse. Rather, heat weakens steel, columns buckle, and beams sag....and buildings go down.


54 posted on 05/06/2014 11:53:26 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: null and void
Now there's a shovel-ready project needing some Obamabucks!
55 posted on 05/06/2014 11:54:33 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: GOYAKLA

“PROPER extinguishers”

They probably had to decommission the halon extinguishers...for the children.


56 posted on 05/06/2014 11:55:30 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

Very good(great) question!
As the answer may lead to a politician and his associates, please don’t hold your breath, waiting for an answer.


57 posted on 05/06/2014 11:57:22 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: lacrew

this happened because we don’t spend money on infrastructure like they do in China./sarc


58 posted on 05/06/2014 11:57:41 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: C19fan; al baby; Albion Wilde; Allegra; BufordP; EveningStar; Gefn; GunsareOK; JRios1968; ...

The bridge, the bridge, the bridge is on fire!
Burn, mother{censored}, burn!

DANG!


59 posted on 05/06/2014 12:03:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: lacrew

Your observation of straw and wood leads me to think that the EPA would not allow water as a extinguisher. Save the fish!.
Stay safe and above the green grass!


60 posted on 05/06/2014 12:03:40 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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