Posted on 05/10/2014 2:20:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The more I read, the more I think that we’ve had civilizations, at least off-and-on, for several hundred thousand if not millions of years. Nothing else makes sense. One example: Mohenjo Daro.
"But you're not as confused as him. It's not your job to be as confused as Nigel is."
You have a clan or tribe that wander into a valley as hunter-gatherers. For some reason, based on the size of the valley and it’s offerings (apple trees, wildlife, streams, reasonable winters)....they stop being hunter-gatherers and put up a permanent camp. Within two generations....they have a cycle of planting and harvest, and have gotten themselves into a very stable lifestyle. No threats in the valley, and all is peaceful.
So the next obvious step is to sit there at night, note the stars, and how movement occurs. You question the four seasons, discuss things around a fire, and start to develop social organization within the growing tribe. Ceremonies are held, and you have some tribal members who gather and dispense knowledge.
I’d make a guess that 30,000 years ago....we were already in the stages of civilization with various tribes. Course, at some point, violence would intercede....wiping out an entire tribe with vast levels of knowledge gone. Somewhere down the line...we eventually had enough of the knowledge gatherers avoid violent death, and continue to pass knowledge down through the generations. Statistically, we beat the odds, and civilization grew.
Amesbury remained a central part of civilization....until violence arrived at their front door, and ceased the whole mystic tourism center. Their knowledge disappeared as they were zero’ed down to nothing. Other than some stones in the ground, and some stuff dug up...there’s nothing left to show of that whole generation.
(four months later) see in particular the illustration in #1 and #9.
Macro-Etymology: Paleosigns [writing 20,000 years ago?]
Macro-Etymology Website | prior to May 20, 2005 | the webmasters thereof
Posted on 5/20/2005 2:00:18 AM by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1406892/posts
(four months later) Mohenjo Daro is just a bit older than the Great Pyramid, and younger than the prehistoric temples on Malta; but an example of much earlier sites include the Gobekli Tepe site in Anatolia (11K old, 6K older than Stonehenge). I wholeheartedly agree that there’s probably been multiple rises and falls, and the falls were not due to “overspecialization” or other mundane gradualist nonsense.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/ist/?next=/history/gobekli-tepe-the-worlds-first-temple-83613665/
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/132
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