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Has anyone been watching the "History Channel's" Mini-Series "The World Wars"?
28 May 2014 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 05/28/2014 3:13:51 PM PDT by US Navy Vet

And if so what did everyone think?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: historychannel; theworldwars
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To: DJlaysitup

Ooops...I meant CIWS...actually I just saw the round white domed thingies which I don’t think they had back then.


101 posted on 05/28/2014 6:02:48 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

I will say the guy they have playing Tojo looks just like him.


102 posted on 05/28/2014 6:07:29 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: GeronL

The last good thing from A&E was Nero Wolfe.

I missed the reruns of the NBC Mysteries that they ran too.


103 posted on 05/28/2014 6:24:26 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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To: wally_bert

I hear the History Channel is coming out with a new show “Swamp Pawn Pickers”...where they trade alligators for interesting and unusual rusty items found around the country at bargain prices negotiated by a crusty old guy and his fat family.

...but that’s off topic...sorry.


104 posted on 05/28/2014 6:32:09 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

I can see what you mean because their show on the ku klux klan doesn’t point out that it is a democrat organization. Also, the History Channel lacked the cojones to put on a biography of President Kennedy, leaving the A & E channel to put it on to much critical acclaim.


105 posted on 05/28/2014 6:37:09 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Stepan12
I gave up on it when they began spouting Soviet propaganda by saying the Bolsheviks under Lenin stormed the Winter Palace and deposed Czar Nicholas II. Nicholas had been deposed months earlier and the Bolsheviks actually staged a successful coup d' tat against a provisional government led by Alexander Kerensky. The Czar had no power at the time and the Bolsheviks were not proto-democrats overthrowing a sclerotic authoritarian regime. They were, however, murderous thugs.
106 posted on 05/28/2014 6:52:49 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: yarddog

“... the British contracted with American manufacturers to produce the Pattern 14 but in .303 caliber. I am not sure if any of them ever made it to Britain but America had a shortage of rifles in 1917 and had the factories change the pattern 14 to 30-06 and named it the 1917 Enfield. We actually produced more of them than we did 1903 Springfields.”

The US M1917 Magazine Rifle (”1917 Enfield”) was made from 1917 until 1920 or so, at a far higher rate than the US Armories (Springfield and Rock Island) produced the M1903 Magazine Rifle during the war, so wartime-only totals were much higher. But the M1903 was built from 1903 to 1937 or so, then was produced under contract by Remington until 1942, when the M1903A3 was adopted, and that rifle was produced until circa 1944; thus totals exceeded the 1917, eventually.

Many American firms had contracts to supply the Allies with anything and everything, from arms and munitions to foodstuffs. Remington and Winchester are simply two among the better-known entities.

Industrial processes were somewhat less flexible circa 1917; after years of being wishy-washy, the United States was not prepared to supply its own tiny but growing military forces with weaponry already approved for active service.

Fortunately, redesigning the British Pattern 1914 rifle to fire the US 30-06 cartridge took minimal time; the original (Pattern 1913) had chambered a rimless cartridge, the 276 Enfield.

Haven’t heard how many US-produced Pattern 1914s made it into British hands, but the British Army did use the rifle in specialized applications calling for higher accuracy, like sniping.

The Imperial Russians contracted with Remington (at least) to produce their o1891g (Mosin-Nagant) rifles, and purchased some 200,000 M1895s from Winchester, chambering their 7.62x54R cartridge and modified with charger guides. Reportedly, it was not well-regarded: using a lever action while prone, or crawling about on the ground, is very awkward. And it’s likely every other rifle then in use suffered in comparison to the o1891g, when it came to stoutness and durability.

US equipage was less than brilliant during the First World War. Not a single aircraft of American design made it into production, and only a small number of US-built DH4s (copy of a British DeHavilland design) built in America got there; the entire effort was more of a political stunt, requiring the artificial freezing of an already obsolescent design at an arbitrary point.

Gives the lie, in some ways, to the postwar accusations against the nation of militarism, and industrialists as “merchants of death.”


107 posted on 05/28/2014 7:02:13 PM PDT by schurmann
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To: MinorityRepublican

Robert Duvall played Stalin in a movie that is shown on youtube. Pretty good-all the cast of characters are there:
Stalin of course, Lenin, Trotsky, Kirov, Beria, Bukharin, and many more.


108 posted on 05/28/2014 7:03:02 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: schurmann

Remington’s first high powered sporting bolt action was simply the 1917 Enfield with a sporter stock and slightly better finish.

As it progressed, Remington did make a few changes such as a sporting trigger but it was still the same basic action and that action was a good one. It was large, strong and durable.


109 posted on 05/28/2014 7:18:15 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

“They show Churchill with what looks like a .45 auto. I can’t say for sure that he never had one but it would look a lot more authentic if he was using a broomhandle Mauser.”

According to reputable written sources his pistol of choice was a 1911 .45ACP.


110 posted on 05/28/2014 7:20:09 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: US Navy Vet

HOW WRONG IS THE HISTORY CHANNEL ABOUT STALIN? LET'S COUNT THE WAYS


Whether politically motivated or just looking for an intriguing tagline, the History Channel's claim that "World War I made Stalin a man and World War II made him a tyrant" is absolutely, 100% factually wrong in every which-around-way you want to look at it.

Yes, Stalin had been a tyrant for nearly four decades before the war, but it is also a fact that Stalin was a "man" long before World War I and -- how's this for irony -- Uncle Joe was at his least tyrannical during World War II.  

111 posted on 05/28/2014 7:30:25 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Stepan12

What i cannot understand is the way they totally Ignore Eisenhower like he did not even exist and not to mention that the midway strategy was not FDR’s it was Admiral Nimitz who was the real hero ... Oh and they also show Douglas MacArthur leaving the Philippines on a plane when everyone knows he left on a pt boat... General Patton was an important Field commander but he was not completely responsible for the victory in Europe! What about General Bradley and also General Montgomery? who they also CONVENIENTLY omit... Very sad and disappointing overall.


112 posted on 05/28/2014 7:31:54 PM PDT by irv64
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To: TexasGator

I can’t say for sure that Churchill never used a M1911 but I have never read of his having used one. The gun most associated with him is certainly the C96 “broomhandle” Mauser. He also apparently used a couple of Webley revolvers at various times.


113 posted on 05/28/2014 7:37:50 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

Yeah...I thought they treated the “dropping of the bombs” (nukes) properly though. I had Memorial Day lunch with my next door neighbor - Bill Perry (Georgia boy). He is 88 years old. He was on his way out of boot camp to the West Coast to be involved in the invasion of the Japanese homeland when he got news of the bombs and the surrender.

He said there had been a lot of talk and he expected to get killed...but when he got to Japan...as part of the occupying force...things were OK. He had no problems at all with the Japanese folks (likely due to the Emperor’s pronouncement) He stayed on duty for a year there and was then given a discharge, became an accountant back here in Georgia, got married, and lived a good life.

I’m sure he feels a little bad about those folks who got killed by the “bombs”...but I’m also sure his story is not unique. Lots of folks lives were saved (on both sides) due to Truman’s decision.


114 posted on 05/28/2014 8:22:05 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

Furthermore, the bombs most likely saved Japan from being divided into “Red” Japan and South Japan, like Korea and Germany.


115 posted on 05/28/2014 8:25:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DJlaysitup

I had uncles, now deceased, that were both in the Euro Theater, got R n R back home and then got orders to eventually board trains out to the West Coast.

They knew exactly where they were going and they made no bones about they were glad the bombs dropped and they didn’t have to deploy....again.


116 posted on 05/28/2014 8:25:55 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: US Navy Vet
I watched the first hour on Sunday and had to turn it off because of the constant string of historical inaccuracies. It was like the research was done by a room of 5th graders. It was absolute dreck. Just a few of the stupidities uttered or portrayed.

- Portrayed the use of poison gas in 1914, reality it was 1915

- Made Gallipoli seem like the battle lasted a few days at most, reality it was over many months.

- Stated the reason for the Villa punitive expedition was the murder of mining engineers, did not even mention Columbus, NM.

-Stated that the Bolsheviks overthrew the Czar, reality the Bolsheviks overthrew Kerensky, not the Czar.

-Stated that after the Bolshevik Revolution, the Germans were able to move troops to the Italian Front for the Battle of Caporetto, reality Caporetto occurred in 1916, not the winter of 1917-18.

- Stated in 1914 the Allies were just Britain, France, and Russia, no mention or map reference that Serbia was even involved in the war.

- Stated that the Ottoman Empire was in the war from the beginning, wrong.

- Had a general ask Churchill for his resignation as First Lord of the Admiralty. Only the Prime Minister would of been in the position to do it.

- American troops were armed with Lee Enfield SMLE’s, while the British were using Springfield 03’s

This was only the first hour, I'm afraid to find out what other idiocies were uttered in the next 4 hours.

117 posted on 05/28/2014 8:39:45 PM PDT by gusty (9)
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To: irv64
They show Patton being "put back on active duty" just in time for the Battle of the Bulge. In reality, Patton led the break out from the Hedgerow country in late July/early Aug 44 and the surrounding of the Germans at Falais. He then sped across France like a rocket. Ended up in the Metz, France area by November. AND then led the Southern march into the Bulge in late December.

I also saw the Japanese ships with Aegis Phased Array radar and domed radar on the masts and one scene of a paratroop drop out of C-130s!!!

118 posted on 05/28/2014 8:44:59 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Maine Mariner
Robert Duvall played Stalin in a movie that is shown on youtube.

I was skeptical going in, but I think Duvall did a fine job.

Here is the link to the movie.

Of course, the movie tries to paint the revolutionaries Stalin killed in a sympathetic light, but the fact is, they were all as brutal as he was.

119 posted on 05/28/2014 8:50:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Alas Babylon!
I also saw the Japanese ships with Aegis Phased Array radar and domed radar on the masts

Thanks for posting that. I almost thought I was watching a commercial for another show (I tend to keep the volume down at times)...what a HOOT! Now granted it appeared to be a computer generated image but - C'mon! Who is generating a computer image of a WWII Japanese ship with that kind of stuff? Hell...if they had that they would have torched our asses at Midway.
120 posted on 05/28/2014 8:59:55 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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