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I used to think this kind of action would be a negative. However it seems to be helping and pushing back the boundary.

I wonder if these same ninnies get scared when they see a cop openly carrying.

1 posted on 06/03/2014 5:12:36 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

Pushing the boundary back is exactly the point.


2 posted on 06/03/2014 5:22:53 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: driftdiver
It could get interesting if someone were to see an LOE in uniform, and start yelling "Man with a gun! Man with a gun!".

Question to any actual lawyer in the group - Could that person be charged with anything? Would that be a case of reckless endangerment since the nearby crowd would be falling all over themselves trying to get away? Please, no lawyer wannabe opinions.

Personally, I think open carry is just poor tactics. I want the first recognition by the bad guy that I have a weapon is when multiple rounds go thru his center of mass.

3 posted on 06/03/2014 5:23:12 AM PDT by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: driftdiver

It is no more scary than say, an Occupy Wall Street [or other local] demonstration, or a Greenpeace, Environmental, or Illegal Alien demonstration, or seeing two Black Panther goons with billy clubs outside a Philadelphia polling place.

Frankly, I don’t feel entirely comfortable that the NRA represents me and my rights fully. I have stopped adding “round-ups” to all my purchases from on-line gun parts sites that have that option.


4 posted on 06/03/2014 5:27:29 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: driftdiver
carrying large, high-powered rifles.

Fox News slinging a bit of that gun-grabber bullsh!t terminology.

5 posted on 06/03/2014 5:48:20 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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NRA surrender monkeys.


6 posted on 06/03/2014 5:50:21 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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9 posted on 06/03/2014 5:54:06 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: driftdiver

Open Carry Texas website


11 posted on 06/03/2014 6:05:55 AM PDT by deport
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“It makes folks who might normally be perfectly open-minded about firearms feel uncomfortable and question the motives of pro-gun advocates.”

I agree with this. I don’t appreciate the bully-tactics used by those who support the gay agenda and I don’t think these tactis will work for the Open Carry guys either. It’s going to backfire... no pun intended.


13 posted on 06/03/2014 6:10:35 AM PDT by bearkat
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To: driftdiver
The problem with Texas is that your gun has to be concealed.
If someone happens to see it under your jacket, even if safely holstered, they can report you.
That's nuts. Other states have open carry, no problem.
If Texas gets open carry, someone getting a glimpse of your gun is no longer a problem.
You can still choose to carry open, concealed (or both).

14 posted on 06/03/2014 6:28:31 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: driftdiver

I haven’t seen all of the photos, but the one of two men in a Chipotle, one wearing dark sunglasses (indoors) and holding his rifle in the low ready position made me cringe.

I wouldn’t have a problem if they popped that particular guy for brandishing. I don’t want to be around some yahoo who is finger**** a loaded rifle in public.

Slung AR-15, muzzle pointed in a safe direction - no problem.

I open carry when in Arizona. I make sure to dress nicely, haircut, shave, handgun in a retention holster and I do not touch my sidearm.


15 posted on 06/03/2014 6:37:43 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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To: driftdiver

they walk around in israel with these weapons and nobody blinks.

i guess the nra has no ide of the concept of conditioning. it will become norml and accepted. again.


19 posted on 06/03/2014 6:51:53 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: driftdiver

Since open carry of pistols/revolvers is against the law in Texas, I guess this is the only legal way for this group to express themselves. Many of us that are CHL holders have a concern that this activity and handgun open carry legislation could have the negative effect of more businesses putting up 30.06 signs, which they have every right to do. Very few are doing it now. More 30.06 signs would be a backward step for gun rights and differentiating between open carry and concealed carry in that regard would be quite complicated.

Unless I was in rural areas, I would not carry openly. The BG doesn’t need to know that I am carrying. That doesn’t mean I am opposed to open carry. But it does mean that I don’t want my rights restricted (30.06 or similar) because of the actions of this group or any other group. BTW I’m sure the IRS/ATF/NSA and all the other gestapo in the banana republic know from all the surveillance and pics of these people who to go after first.

In any event if conservatives maintain the balance of power in the Statehouse, open carry of handguns will likely become a reality in the next session of the legislature. Be careful what you wish for.


20 posted on 06/03/2014 6:52:24 AM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: driftdiver
I used to think this kind of action would be a negative. However it seems to be helping and pushing back the boundary.

In California, starting in 2004, some people decided to "push the boundaries", with open-carry activists meeting up in places like Starbucks.

The result was the passage of California Assembly Bill 144, which starting in 2012 outlawed open carry of pistols, followed by laws which outlawed open carry of rifles and shotguns. Way to go, guys!

There are places where open carry can be done without alarming people, and places where open carry will freak people out. Freaking out the sheep WILL lead to laws against open carry.

21 posted on 06/03/2014 6:54:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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It seems to me the 2A says we have the right to keep and BEAR arms. Frightening girls or girly men while bearing arms shouldn’t matter.


23 posted on 06/03/2014 7:04:34 AM PDT by afsnco
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In this day and age of nutjobs walking into places and slaughtering innocent people, why in sam hell would you want to open carry in an establishment with lil kids around.

I understand what they are attempting to do, but this is just down right stupid.

It doesn’t help our cause.


27 posted on 06/03/2014 9:19:38 AM PDT by servantboy777
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Imagine if the homos would tell their people what you are doing is down right scary....................


28 posted on 06/03/2014 9:22:08 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Where is your thinking cap? The one you were issued in elementray school.)
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To: driftdiver

My letter sent to the chicken NRA:

Dear NRA:

your
“Let’s not mince words,” the post on the NRA’s site said, “not only is it rare, it’s downright weird and certainly not a practical way to go normally about your business while being prepared to defend yourself. To those who are not acquainted with the dubious practice of using public displays of firearms as a means to draw attention to oneself or one’s cause, it can be downright scary. It makes folks who might normally be perfectly open-minded about firearms feel uncomfortable and question the motives of pro-gun advocates.

“Using guns merely to draw attention to yourself in public not only defies common
sense, it shows a lack of consideration and manners,” the NRA wrote.
“That’s not the Texas way. And that’s certainly not the NRA way.”

My humble opinion concerning your NRA`s apparent ignorance:

NRA should really read American history to learn about the Second Amendment and how my ancestors knew what it meant. You appear to be totally ignorant of the history of America or you would not appear to be uttering such preposterous nonsensical statements per above..

WEARING ARMS< BEARING ARMS
Volunteers#War of 1812
“Governor Synder, 1815- Our militia and volunteers were actually engage with the enemy..”p99 ...if we destroyed the militia system, we did not indeed take away the right of the people to bear arms, but we destroyed the inclination, the habit of WEARING ARMS; and such was not his [Gov. Snyder]sentiment as to what ought to be the condition of things in a country like ours. He believed that not only right, but the habit of WEARING ARMS was essential to freemen, and to the preservation of the liberty of freemen.
This was the principle inserted into the Constitution of the United States; and if we did away with this, the effect would be to destroy the principle and the feeling
altogether.” .100 p.105.

p.168 et alii pages are sourced from “Proceedings and Debates of the Convention of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania”, Vol. 4, by the Pennsylvania Constitutional Convention, 1837-8

Shape up or ship out.
Best regards,


31 posted on 06/03/2014 12:08:47 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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