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Could Nascar's Danica Patrick become America's first EVER female Formula 1 driver
UK Daily Mail ^ | June 9, 2014 | Jennifer Newton

Posted on 06/09/2014 5:43:16 AM PDT by C19fan

NASCAR racer Danica Patrick could be set to become America's first female Formula One driver after her boss hinted she would be a 'great candidate' for his F1 team. The 32-year-old is the most successful woman in the history of American open-wheel racing and has competed in NASCAR since 2012, finishing inside the top ten twice. Motorsport mogul Gene Haas, for whom Miss Patrick races for in NASCAR is preparing to launch a brand new Formula One team in time for the 2016 season.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: auto; danicapatrick; f1; formula; nascar; patrick; racing; women
Considering how lopsided F-1 is she is a good candidate for a middling F-1 team as she is use to being in the back.
1 posted on 06/09/2014 5:43:16 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
Janet Guthrie
2 posted on 06/09/2014 5:53:07 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: C19fan

She must obtain attain a super-license first, and they are expensive to get and expensive to renew. Big money.

I watched the interview with Haas and he did mention Danica in response to Lee Diffey’s question, but I recall it was followed with a ‘not likely...’

As the owner of a new team to take the grid in ‘16, Haas will have many good drivers to choose from over the next year - all of them with actual F1 experience.

I do wish him good luck! Never thought Peter Winsor had a chance with his start-up...


3 posted on 06/09/2014 5:54:12 AM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: C19fan

The Peter Principle arrives in F1.


4 posted on 06/09/2014 5:58:19 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: C19fan
Considering how lopsided F-1 is she is a good candidate ...
Why is she a good candidate? When I look at her results over the last 4 years, all I see is mainly zeros.
5 posted on 06/09/2014 5:59:57 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: BBB333

F1 drivers have been known to actually pay millions to the teams for the ride. Patrick is like Montoya, probably a better open-wheel driver than Cup driver. But F1 is engineering driven, not driver critical. Engineers can and do tweak the cars via electronics while the car is actually running on the track. How you finish often depends on where you start in qualifying and the car. A great driver cannot take a middling F1 car and go to the front like a Cup driver can (Kurt Busch).


6 posted on 06/09/2014 6:02:41 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: C19fan

Danica was not a top Indy driver, but better than average. Kyle Larson is doing quite well (10 in points)in the #42 and certainly far better than Montoya. Not all open wheel racers cut the mustard in NASCAR.

Danica is however, a huge sponsor draw and Haas ought to capitalize on this.


7 posted on 06/09/2014 6:10:51 AM PDT by umgud
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When I look at her results over the last 4 years, all I see is mainly zeros.

When I look at her results, I don't think it is the zeros that people notice. Danica is an athlete worth watching.

8 posted on 06/09/2014 6:17:29 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: umgud
Danica is however, a huge sponsor draw and Haas ought to capitalize on this.

This is the only reason she has sponsors:


9 posted on 06/09/2014 6:25:44 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: C19fan

Maybe she could actually win some races? Other than that one IRL years back.....


10 posted on 06/09/2014 6:36:42 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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It’s amazing how someone who has lost every single race she’s been in gets all this publicity. Talk about overkill.

If she wants to focus on her looks (which are quite nice) then do so, but leave the NASCAR races alone.


11 posted on 06/09/2014 6:37:07 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Rummyfan

Motegie, Japan

tough track.


12 posted on 06/09/2014 6:42:47 AM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: C19fan

I would think she’d be better fit to try and get back into Indy car racing the F1. F1 is for the best drivers in the World and she’s not in that league.


13 posted on 06/09/2014 6:55:52 AM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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It was a fuel mileage race that she won.

Patrick took the Indy Japan 300 after the race leaders were forced to pit for fuel in the final laps. She finished 5.8594 seconds ahead of the Brazilian pole-sitter Helio Castroneves, who ran out of fuel in the final turns on the 1.5-mile

14 posted on 06/09/2014 6:58:36 AM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: Pollster1
Danica is an athlete worth watching.

First, race car drivers are not athletes. Secondly, her miniscule achievements, if she were a male or unattractive, would not even rise to the level of discussion.

15 posted on 06/09/2014 7:25:13 AM PDT by Right Brother
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First, race car drivers are athletes. Just as the Olympic shooters are athletes even though they don’t perspire (except in biathlon), race care drivers depend on extreme levels of precise observation and precision movements.

Secondly, while Danica’s miniscule achievements, if she were a male or unattractive, would not even rise to the level of discussion, the same could be said for half the NFL players. People who are on the football field (or the bench) but rarely central to a critical play are still athletes, and drivers who are on the course but finishing well out of the lead (because they lack the reflexes, observational awareness, and hand-eye coordination of the top tier drivers - all the skills of the very best in football, except for the speed and muscle), are still athletes. Besides, we all know why Danica’s marketing efforts are so successful, and it’s primarily a byproduct of her “physical fitness”.


16 posted on 06/09/2014 7:42:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Right Brother
if she were a male or unattractive, would not even rise to the level of discussion.

I agree.

We should continue to cede the public court to only homosexuals. Appreciating the form and talent of a good looking woman is shameful, and I join you in this public scorn.

17 posted on 06/09/2014 7:43:04 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: Right Brother

Foul-mouthed harpies is what she is.


18 posted on 06/09/2014 7:56:31 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Pollster1

So if your criteria for athleticism is eye/hand coordination, precision movement, reflexes, and observational awareness, then I guess video gamers are athletes as well? Perhaps musicians too?


19 posted on 06/09/2014 8:21:59 AM PDT by Right Brother
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You probably couldn’t beat her in a 100 yard dash but hey she should be home making babies right.


20 posted on 06/09/2014 8:25:00 AM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: Right Brother

Athlete, somebody with athletic ability: somebody with the abilities to participate in physical exercise, especially in competitive games and races.

I’ll give her that


21 posted on 06/09/2014 8:27:20 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: McGruff

Your reply is silly. Where did I imply that she should not participate in racing? The simple fact remains, that if she were not an attractive woman, we would barely know of her existence. The attention she receives is not commensurate with her accomplishments My other bone of contention with another poster, is to refer to race car drivers, MALE or female, as athletes.


22 posted on 06/09/2014 8:47:25 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: BBB333
There are a lot of sponsors willing to put up the money to get Danica Patrick trained to get the FIA Super Licence needed to race in Formula 1.
23 posted on 06/09/2014 8:54:49 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Right Brother
I would not include musicians or gamers as athletes, but what do you think about shooters? Are these Olympians athletes?


24 posted on 06/09/2014 9:12:53 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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First, race car drivers are not athletes.

You should try driving an F1 car at speed for 73 laps. There's a reason there are very few F1 drivers over 35 years of age. The G forces wear them out. You look at them and they are all in top physical condition, and only the young have the stamina to drive a full race. I'd bet you'd be spent after about five laps.

25 posted on 06/09/2014 9:20:38 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Right Brother
This is clearly a case of some good looking woman, that crashed a gay
drag competition, and stole first prize before anyone realized it was a girl.

You have hated women racers ever since.
(who's a pretty girl? you are!)

26 posted on 06/09/2014 11:54:14 AM PDT by laotzu
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You know nothing of F1.

JPM was a HORRIBLE F1 driver and quit mid season. It’s unheard of. Of course he was driving very poorly and took out his teammate just past the tunnel in Monaco. Ran away with his tail between his legs.

“...Engineers can and do tweak the cars via electronics while the car is actually running on the track.”

It is 100% illegal to do this. They only have telemetry and can inform a driver if brake bias needs to be adjusted for longevity of brakes, for instance. The driver makes all adjustments. Complex adjustments beyond the scope of most drivers.

“...A great driver cannot take a middling F1 car and go to the front...” Again very incorrect.

Fernando Alanso (I do not care for him, BTW) has for the last several years driven his Ferrari at 110% - the Ferrari chassis has been a handful for the last few years and he has driven it beyond comprehension.

NASCAR drivers would have a very difficult time driving a F1 car - 1,200 pounds, 900 HP (the cars actually weigh about 650 pounds but have beryllium ballast to bring them to FIA minimums). They are beastly.

“F1 drivers have been known to actually pay millions to the teams for the ride.” True, but only on the little teams, and the money usually comes from the drivers mentor. The drivers are typically BAD. I sincerely doubt that Haas Racing is entering F1 so it can showcase crappy drivers.

In closing I want to emphasize my point about JPM once more - he’s a terrible F1 driver and the sport is MUCH better without him.


27 posted on 06/09/2014 2:10:28 PM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: RayChuang88

No doubt. Haas himself said it was unlikely for the team to have her.

He’s not spending a massive amount of money to build a new team, then train a new F1 driver - he’ll look to the pool of drivers who are current and qualified.

It’s a business decision.

There are, and have been, female test drivers for F1 teams. Perhaps this could be a route for Patrick. Several years as a test driver, gaining familiarity with the car, then a seat...


28 posted on 06/09/2014 2:15:01 PM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: C19fan

She is a toxic spokes model. Anything she sells is a net negative to buy


29 posted on 06/09/2014 2:32:50 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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She is going to switch again? She failed at NASCAR and she wants to move on to something else?


30 posted on 06/09/2014 2:38:02 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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It’s really quite a different environment. For example, the bikinis an F1 driver wears for the cameras are completely different from the ones a NASCAR driver wears.


31 posted on 06/09/2014 2:45:41 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Correct. She could earn a good living being a F1 test driver, since they are in good demand to test new race cars, especially during the off-season.


32 posted on 06/09/2014 2:48:24 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Right Brother; henkster
100% right about the girl, however... F1 drivers sustain more prolonged G-Loading than any pilot ever has, a 2 minute dogfight is one thing, a 2 hour race at an average of 4G's is another

In corners, F1 drivers typically experience sideways forces of 4g, and about 5g on braking. As they accelerate out of the corners, they'll feel a 2g pull

multiply that times 3lbs for the helmet and you better have some damn strong neck muscles

"Military pilots experience greater g loads," Monaghan says, "but these are typically aligned with the spine, whereas an F1 driver endures these loads almost at right angles to the spine."

This results in an average F1 driver losing about 4kgs of weight after just one race.

but YMMV...

33 posted on 06/09/2014 4:07:47 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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problem for her is, she's not qualified to apply for a Super License...

Requirements[edit]

To qualify for an FIA Super Licence the requesting driver must already be the holder of a Grade A competition licence, and additionally meet the requirements of the 2013 FIA International Sporting Code, Appendix L.[1][2] These requirements state that the driver must be either the reigning champion in a lower category of motor sport, for example Formula 3 (British, Italian or Japanese championship, or Euro Series), Formula 2, or GP2 Series (formerly known as Formula 3000), or must have consistently finished well in these categories. For example, a driver finishing in the first three positions five times within the last two years in GP2 will be eligible for a Super Licence.

Additionally, drivers who have competed in the IndyCar Series are eligible for a Super Licence if they finished within the first four places of the driver's championship. This allows drivers from the United States domestic series to move into Formula One without first taking part in other FIA sanctioned events. Under exceptional circumstances Appendix L also allows the FIA to award a Super Licence to a driver who does not meet the normal criteria if a vote reveals unanimous agreement by the members, and provided that the driver has completed 300 kilometers of testing at racing speeds in a current car.

34 posted on 06/12/2014 6:39:23 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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