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13 planes vanish from radars over Europe
Telegraph ^ | June 13, 2014 | Matthew Day

Posted on 06/14/2014 8:34:44 PM PDT by wtd

13 planes vanish from radars over Europe As many as 13 planes flying over Europe vanish from radar screens in an "unprecedented" series of blackouts that lasted 25 minutes with claims air traffic control could have been hacked

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aviation; disappear; missing; planes; radar
Begs the question...w/disappearance of MH370 still unresolved, is this all connected?
1 posted on 06/14/2014 8:34:44 PM PDT by wtd
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To: wtd

very likely!


2 posted on 06/14/2014 8:35:33 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: wtd

MH370 may be the bomber that Iran never had.
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3 posted on 06/14/2014 8:37:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: wtd

Test run?


4 posted on 06/14/2014 8:37:54 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: wtd

Test run for a radar blackout in the future where they crash that plane into Paris or something.


5 posted on 06/14/2014 8:38:20 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: MeshugeMikey

I don’t mind flying to South America, but no way would I fly to Europe or Southeast Asia now!


6 posted on 06/14/2014 8:39:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: wtd

Test run.


7 posted on 06/14/2014 8:43:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: wtd

Silly. I was thinking about this today. MH 373 disappears, five terrorist generals returned, Iraq erupts....are they connected? Strange times.


8 posted on 06/14/2014 8:43:54 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: wtd

But INMARSAT knew exactly where they were —


9 posted on 06/14/2014 8:45:39 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: wtd

10 posted on 06/14/2014 8:45:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Toespi

I thought the same thing when ISIS took over the airport. The missing plane will soon be landing.


11 posted on 06/14/2014 8:46:37 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Toespi

I believe Iraq has been corrupting for a little while now. Obama has just been too focused on transgendered in the military and bs like that.


12 posted on 06/14/2014 8:47:32 PM PDT by boycott
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To: dfwgator

LOL. Could be...


13 posted on 06/14/2014 8:52:55 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: wtd

Sounds like the current season of ‘24’


14 posted on 06/14/2014 8:55:38 PM PDT by montag813
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To: wtd

U2 LAX Radar Disruption


15 posted on 06/14/2014 8:56:39 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: montag813

That’s exactly what I thought.


16 posted on 06/14/2014 9:02:05 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: dfwgator
ROTFLMAO! Post of the day!
17 posted on 06/14/2014 9:05:08 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Liberals - destroyers of both men and civilizations. The Fourth Turning Cometh.)
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To: wtd

Could it be Solar Flare related?


18 posted on 06/14/2014 9:07:08 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: editor-surveyor

” no way would I fly to Europe or Southeast Asia now!”
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That is a bit of extreme paranoia.
My last three long flights have been between Europe and Southeast Asia, and all three were on Qatar Airways !


19 posted on 06/14/2014 9:10:57 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: wtd

Mother ship


20 posted on 06/14/2014 9:14:27 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Paisan

There was supposed to be extraordinary solar flare activity this weekend. I’d guess that might be more likely. Now, the Malaysian airliner is another matter. I tend toward the theory that the plane was taken somewhere to be used later.


21 posted on 06/14/2014 9:17:55 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Texas Songwriter

22 posted on 06/14/2014 9:20:49 PM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: RJS1950

Solar flare interference has been noticeable for the last few days. I believe Friday should have been the last of this batch.

http://spaceweather.com


23 posted on 06/14/2014 9:23:30 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: dfwgator

LOL! That was a good one!


24 posted on 06/14/2014 9:39:04 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: wtd
How to deal with hackers:

I think this would effectively cut down on their activities.

25 posted on 06/14/2014 9:44:59 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: Paisan

Possible.


26 posted on 06/14/2014 10:12:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Viennacon

No need to crash it just fly over and the will surrender.
De la masse


27 posted on 06/14/2014 10:45:04 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: wtd

two events, one plan


28 posted on 06/14/2014 10:53:34 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: RJS1950

In the early 70s I was in AF comms and worked extensively with HF, VHF, UHF and EHF communications and radar equipment.

In that time, we experienced a SID (sudden ionospheric disturbance) that knocked out about all of our comms. It (ionospheric disturbance) cause by solar sunspot/flare activity where large volumes of the earth’s ionosphere is ionized by the radiation. It effectively is a big sponge for long haul communications, especially those that depended on the normal environment of the ionosphere to work properly. That mean that the lower frequencies were affected first and longest.

For a direct line of sight radar system, and at frequencies above L or S band, I’d say maybe some attenuation, but not complete loss. For higher band radars, C and X band, likely a much less effect.

My big question is what was lost? The actual skin returns, or did the transponder system go out?


29 posted on 06/15/2014 4:23:22 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I think the solar activity interrupted the skin returns in where the flare effect were higher.

I spent my AF career in strat nuke ops where satcom, HF and UHF were critical. We were always alerted to the possibilities of outages from flares. Solar activity has caused localized outages in the past and this was pretty localized. Now, if it happens again in the absence of any other factors then it would be something to worry about.


30 posted on 06/15/2014 8:35:48 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: AlexW

Common sense is not paranoia.


31 posted on 06/15/2014 7:42:02 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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