Skip to comments.Higgs boson scientists: The universe should have collapsed
Posted on 06/23/2014 10:58:16 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
Last years discovery of the Higgs boson was thought to answer a number of questions regarding how particles derive their mass. Now, however, it seems the discovery of the elusive particle is raising more questions than answers.
Physicists at Kings College in London now say they have recreated conditions for the Big Bang now with the information from the discovery of the Higgs boson, and they report that the universe should have expanded too quickly and collapsed.
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How do you know it didn’t?
Yeah but, that God dude intervened and it didn’t.
Thatz pretty kewel. ..
Oh that’s right. It happened right after the Oceans started rising and after all that bad war and horrible economic stuff never happened again.
BTW This is Old News
Missed it by the match.
much, that is.
But has Obama read it yet?
Must ... not ... admit ... to ... a .... creator...
Yeah, but if I don't do this high energy physics experiment, I might not get tenure. You have to consider both sides.
Match much or does it much matter???
I amuse muhself....
We should do lunch.
Maybe in Los Altos Bar and Grill. Just remodeled.
Gotta be seen...
I thought is was settled science????
Really? I was there in 2011 and it didn’t seem that old. Sounds good.
NO ONE has a friggin clue about the universe. Now they claim dark matter and recently dark energy can be parellel universes. Ask them to explain what became before the "singularity" for each universe (big bang) and listen to the crickets. They don't know sh*t.
If there is intelligence after death, the dead are the only ones who know. Personally, I think we die and become non-existent as we were before the sperm hit the egg. But then, maybe through years of mental growth, who knows if our conscience has developed to exist on another plane? Doubt it.
Bottom line: No physicist knows ANY facts of what existed before the "singularity". The above is why I'm not afraid of death. If I don't exist, similar to deep sleep or outside un-conscience trauma, then why should I be concerned? I wouldn't know that I don't exist.
My only bummer is that I enjoy so many aspects of life. But again, if not aware, how would I know I miss them?
These Higgs guys should have stuck with climate science where being wrong elevates you to the pantheon.
When I was a child and reading SciFi fiction, I came to the conclusion that WE are energy parts of a god/universe. I believed that when we die, our energy (or souls to some) join that energy. We meld with the entity behind the universe and become part of it with or without conscience. Not so sure now, but I'll keep that theory open. Be cool to have a conscience entity that joins him.
Still, when we die and not aware we died, so what? If it's the end of conscience so be it. We won't know.
Since you threw this out there, (not finding right words) done in honesty and politeness, then an honest and polite reply will be made in return:
It is my - and many others - understanding that God wants us to worship him, but it is NOT because he needs worship. God doesn't need anything we can provide him - you're right, that would be petty, and hence that isn't something that God could possibly be.
However, He certainly wants us to worship Him - with good reason. By worshipping Him:
a) We become AWARE of the messages He has sent us through His prophets, His Son that was made incarnate on this earth, and in the case of the 10 Commandments, what He actually took the time to scribble out on to stone tablets; and
b) We are inclined to actually FOLLOW those instructions, out of both love, and/or, as hell exists, out of fear.
Hence, by worshipping God, we become what God wants us to be.
I believe the creator, which I believe in, behind the "singularity" did it for reasons that will never be known.
BINGO! I completely agree. So does God, as He stated as much to Job in the Bible's Book of Job!
CS. Lewis once said that god created the universe because he was lonely. Threw out a bunch on the big bang to see what could happen, while hoping something more would come of the gases, galazies, plantary systems.
As someone who does engineering using the very edges of the nature of matter and energy, including quantum effects, I am convinced that nothing God did was out of hope - it was out of purpose.
Something else to remember - it appears time itself is just a flexible aspect of space-time. When God created the singularity (?) that set this universe in motion, He did it in a context that is outside of time, or at least time as we know it.
This means it is quite probable that even by the laws of physics as we know them, that Creator already has complete insight into the conclusion (as we would perceive it, being entities that have to live in the space-time continuum) of all the processes that were unleashed in the Creation.
When viewed in that context, concepts like "hope" and "loneliness" take on a different flavor. Who knows what the true purpose and plan of God - He's Him, and we're just His creation. However, I suspect that "neediness" is not a concept that applies to Him.
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