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Higgs boson scientists: The universe should have collapsed
Daily Digest News ^ | 6-24-2014 | Ryan Johnson

Posted on 06/23/2014 10:58:16 PM PDT by Citizen Zed

Last year’s discovery of the Higgs boson was thought to answer a number of questions regarding how particles derive their mass. Now, however, it seems the discovery of the elusive particle is raising more questions than answers.

Physicists at King’s College in London now say they have recreated conditions for the Big Bang now with the information from the discovery of the Higgs boson, and they report that the universe should have expanded too quickly and collapsed.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailydigestnews.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: higgsboson; kludge; notmyfault; peterhiggs; thereisnohiggs
Just give Obama a little more time.
1 posted on 06/23/2014 10:58:16 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

How do you know it didn’t?


2 posted on 06/23/2014 10:58:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Citizen Zed

Yeah but, that God dude intervened and it didn’t.

Thatz pretty kewel. ..


3 posted on 06/23/2014 11:00:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh that’s right. It happened right after the Oceans started rising and after all that bad war and horrible economic stuff never happened again.


4 posted on 06/23/2014 11:02:32 PM PDT by Citizen Zed ("Freedom costs a buck o five" - Gary Johnston, TAWP)
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To: Citizen Zed

LOL


5 posted on 06/23/2014 11:04:09 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Citizen Zed

BTW This is Old News


6 posted on 06/23/2014 11:05:06 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Vendome

Missed it by the match.


7 posted on 06/23/2014 11:06:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Vendome

much, that is.


8 posted on 06/23/2014 11:07:00 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: woofie

But has Obama read it yet?


9 posted on 06/23/2014 11:10:09 PM PDT by Citizen Zed ("Freedom costs a buck o five" - Gary Johnston, TAWP)
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To: Citizen Zed

Must ... not ... admit ... to ... a .... creator...


10 posted on 06/23/2014 11:11:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Citizen Zed
...if we shake it too much, we could go into this new energy space, which could cause the universe to collapse.

Yeah, but if I don't do this high energy physics experiment, I might not get tenure. You have to consider both sides.

11 posted on 06/23/2014 11:23:24 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: nickcarraway

Match much or does it much matter???

LOL

I amuse muhself....


12 posted on 06/23/2014 11:27:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: nickcarraway

We should do lunch.

Maybe in Los Altos Bar and Grill. Just remodeled.

Gotta be seen...


13 posted on 06/23/2014 11:28:57 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Citizen Zed

I thought is was settled science????


14 posted on 06/23/2014 11:32:53 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Citizen Zed

Not.
My.
Fault.


15 posted on 06/23/2014 11:44:26 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Vendome

Really? I was there in 2011 and it didn’t seem that old. Sounds good.


16 posted on 06/23/2014 11:48:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Citizen Zed
Oh noes! We're all going to die in some billion years. I don't believe a word of theoretical physisists who write on their white boards with their equations.

NO ONE has a friggin clue about the universe. Now they claim dark matter and recently dark energy can be parellel universes. Ask them to explain what became before the "singularity" for each universe (big bang) and listen to the crickets. They don't know sh*t.

If there is intelligence after death, the dead are the only ones who know. Personally, I think we die and become non-existent as we were before the sperm hit the egg. But then, maybe through years of mental growth, who knows if our conscience has developed to exist on another plane? Doubt it.

Bottom line: No physicist knows ANY facts of what existed before the "singularity". The above is why I'm not afraid of death. If I don't exist, similar to deep sleep or outside un-conscience trauma, then why should I be concerned? I wouldn't know that I don't exist.

My only bummer is that I enjoy so many aspects of life. But again, if not aware, how would I know I miss them?

17 posted on 06/24/2014 12:21:05 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: All

These Higgs guys should have stuck with climate science where being wrong elevates you to the pantheon.


18 posted on 06/24/2014 12:23:03 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: A Navy Vet
Last thought: I don't believe in watchful god that needs to be worshipped, how petty. I believe the creator, which I believe in, behind the "singularity" did it for reasons that will never be known. CS. Lewis once said that god created the universe because he was lonely. Threw out a bunch on the big bang to see what could happen, while hoping something more would come of the gases, galazies, plantary systems.

When I was a child and reading SciFi fiction, I came to the conclusion that WE are energy parts of a god/universe. I believed that when we die, our energy (or souls to some) join that energy. We meld with the entity behind the universe and become part of it with or without conscience. Not so sure now, but I'll keep that theory open. Be cool to have a conscience entity that joins him.

Still, when we die and not aware we died, so what? If it's the end of conscience so be it. We won't know.

19 posted on 06/24/2014 12:51:15 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
Last thought: I don't believe in watchful god that needs to be worshipped, how petty.

Since you threw this out there, (not finding right words) done in honesty and politeness, then an honest and polite reply will be made in return:

It is my - and many others - understanding that God wants us to worship him, but it is NOT because he needs worship. God doesn't need anything we can provide him - you're right, that would be petty, and hence that isn't something that God could possibly be.

However, He certainly wants us to worship Him - with good reason. By worshipping Him:

a) We become AWARE of the messages He has sent us through His prophets, His Son that was made incarnate on this earth, and in the case of the 10 Commandments, what He actually took the time to scribble out on to stone tablets; and

b) We are inclined to actually FOLLOW those instructions, out of both love, and/or, as hell exists, out of fear.

Hence, by worshipping God, we become what God wants us to be.

I believe the creator, which I believe in, behind the "singularity" did it for reasons that will never be known.

BINGO! I completely agree. So does God, as He stated as much to Job in the Bible's Book of Job!

CS. Lewis once said that god created the universe because he was lonely. Threw out a bunch on the big bang to see what could happen, while hoping something more would come of the gases, galazies, plantary systems.

As someone who does engineering using the very edges of the nature of matter and energy, including quantum effects, I am convinced that nothing God did was out of hope - it was out of purpose.

Something else to remember - it appears time itself is just a flexible aspect of space-time. When God created the singularity (?) that set this universe in motion, He did it in a context that is outside of time, or at least time as we know it.

This means it is quite probable that even by the laws of physics as we know them, that Creator already has complete insight into the conclusion (as we would perceive it, being entities that have to live in the space-time continuum) of all the processes that were unleashed in the Creation.

When viewed in that context, concepts like "hope" and "loneliness" take on a different flavor. Who knows what the true purpose and plan of God - He's Him, and we're just His creation. However, I suspect that "neediness" is not a concept that applies to Him.

20 posted on 06/24/2014 1:28:47 AM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Yossarian

Lovely loving words.... Thank you. Light unto a very dark world...


21 posted on 06/24/2014 1:34:39 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Seems as though a charge of attempted mass murder would be in order


22 posted on 06/24/2014 1:59:52 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Citizen Zed

It did collapse. It is still collapsing. We are all living in a great big black hole.


23 posted on 06/24/2014 3:32:18 AM PDT by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: nickcarraway

I went there Friday and they were remodeling.

Ended up at the Burger Shack.

Is Bar&Grill close enough from your office for lunch?


24 posted on 06/24/2014 3:37:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome
Spot on Vendome, with God all things are possible.
25 posted on 06/24/2014 4:33:34 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: A Navy Vet

What if you do continue to exist? (Can anyone prove or disprove this?, No, but we all find out in time!)

“I am the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by me....” (Jesus).

Thanks for your service.


26 posted on 06/24/2014 5:54:16 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: ALPAPilot

Global warming has kept the universe from collapsing.


27 posted on 06/24/2014 5:56:35 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Citizen Zed

Dude, that was, like, two years ago.


28 posted on 06/24/2014 6:00:34 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: xp38
Global warming has kept the universe from collapsing.

This makes sense. Heat rises, which creates outward pressure on our atmosphere, thereby keeping the universe from collapsing in unto us.

We need to create MORE global warming - for our own safety!
29 posted on 06/24/2014 6:55:48 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Citizen Zed

“For by Him (Christ Jesus) were ALL THINGS created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM, and FOR HIM: And He is before all things, and BY HIM ALL THINGS CONSIST.”

— Colossians 1:16-20


30 posted on 06/24/2014 7:07:08 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Citizen Zed

Nah. Remember, the “inevitable” end of history is social justice.


31 posted on 06/24/2014 7:08:54 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Citizen Zed

Whenever the “scientific community” has to admit a new revelation, they have to change their facts to fit into the Godless reality they have created.


32 posted on 06/24/2014 7:29:36 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (There's only one reason for authorities to take the arms of good people.)
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