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MH370: Plane Deliberately Set on Autopilot 'West of Sumatra' When it Ran Out of Fuel and Crashed
Yahoo News ^ | June 26, 2014 | Lydia Smith / IB Times

Posted on 06/26/2014 9:53:10 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: Uncle Chip

That too. Seems he ran simulations on his home computer. Speaking of which, AOPA has this nifty simulator - problem is it costs like $2500 .... and that’s without the rudder pedals - extra $250(....


21 posted on 06/26/2014 10:25:31 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: SkyDancer
You don’t put it on autopilot if you intend to crash it.

You do if you are CS muslim and don't want to be awake or conscious when the end comes and really want to screw up the investigation of what really happened.................

22 posted on 06/26/2014 10:40:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,743 threads and 84,837 replies.)
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To: InterceptPoint

<>autopilot<>

Here are the Inmarsat arcs:

http://www.duncansteel.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/V_2D_2.png

The place where it allegedly went on autopilot is ~S4E93 at 4:11 and dropped in the ocean ~S32E97 at 8:11 — that’s 1940 miles over 4 hours.

I would love to see a straight line from point to point through those arcs that allows for a fixed speed hour by hour over those 4 hours.

If I’m reading that chart correctly, the autopilot would have had to fly the first hour at 307 mph and the last hour at 700mph — and that not only bad autopiloting, but it’s also impossible.


23 posted on 06/26/2014 10:47:53 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Red Badger

Good point. But what about the FO? Was he in on it? Guess so.


24 posted on 06/26/2014 10:53:24 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: SkyDancer

Razor to the throat...................


25 posted on 06/26/2014 10:56:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,743 threads and 84,837 replies.)
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To: Uncle Chip

If I’m reading that chart correctly, the autopilot would have had to fly the first hour at 307 mph and the last hour at 700mph — and that not only bad autopiloting, but it’s also impossible.
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Could be but the plot must be a projection from points on a sphere to a flat surface so that would need to be taken into consideration. Plus I don’t understand how whoever made this plot drew the straight line. As you noted, they should have used constant velocity to choose the points and then see if that curve maps to straight line.

Despite the plot, they must have done that to draw the conclusion they did. Don’t you think?


26 posted on 06/26/2014 11:12:55 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Red Badger

I think by now its part of 100k pepsi cans in china.....


27 posted on 06/26/2014 11:15:58 AM PDT by Therapsid
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To: Uncle Chip

King Kong’s home, Skull Island, is 40 miles west of Sumatra. Hmmmm.


28 posted on 06/26/2014 11:17:38 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Therapsid

It may never be found, and even if it is may never be recovered..........................


29 posted on 06/26/2014 11:18:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,743 threads and 84,837 replies.)
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To: InterceptPoint

That straight line is the yellow flight path here drawn by the NTSB:

https://www.facebook.com/178566888854999/photos/pcb.740971779281171/740971732614509/?type=1&theater

It’s not that far for the sphere to significantly come into play. But you can recheck the numbers here:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gccalc.shtml

It’s either autopilot or Inmarsat arcs — it can’t be both.


30 posted on 06/26/2014 11:24:02 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

“Truss said it was “highly, highly likely “

Truss is a certified moron. Is “highly, highly likely” anything like “super duper sure, almost”?


31 posted on 06/26/2014 12:00:21 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Uncle Chip

It’s not that far for the sphere to significantly come into play. But you can recheck the numbers here:
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4 hours. 500 miles per hour. 2000 miles. 2000/24000 = 1/12
1/12 * 360 = 30 degrees. I don’t think a 30 degree arc on a globe would look as straight as the plot.

But maybe the are using some transformation that plots arcs as straight lines. If that is possible.

You are right. Something doesn’t look right.


32 posted on 06/26/2014 12:07:07 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Uncle Chip

If he(the pilot) was practicing short field landings and radar evasion on his simulator for months, like was reported yesterday, then why would he kill himself?


33 posted on 06/26/2014 12:30:53 PM PDT by Rick66
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To: Uncle Chip

If he(the pilot) was practicing short field landings and radar evasion on his simulator for months, like was reported yesterday, then why would he kill himself?


34 posted on 06/26/2014 12:31:26 PM PDT by Rick66 (Allah hates me, the feeling is mutual.)
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To: Rick66

Good question that the officials will evade.

He should have been practicing putting the plane on autopilot or running out of fuel or crashes.


35 posted on 06/26/2014 1:01:08 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What about the story that the airplane was spotted the ground in Pakistan?
36 posted on 06/26/2014 5:59:23 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: ANGGAPO

I saw it at an airport in Nebraska.


37 posted on 06/26/2014 6:00:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Uncle Chip
Plane Deliberately Set on Autopilot 'West of Sumatra' When it Ran Out of Fuel and Crashed

Too late, activating the autopilot then has no effect.

38 posted on 06/26/2014 7:20:18 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Wikipedia is wrong. who knew?)
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To: InterceptPoint

I looked at this again last night and the only way the Inmarsat arcs work with the autopilot is if the plane was put on autopilot deadheading to New Amsterdam Island shortly after turning south for about 4.5 hours —

BUT then in order to hit that final arc it would have had to come off autopilot and that heading with about an hour of fuel left. It’s at that point that it would have to turn to the east toward Perth to hit that final Inmarsat arc and the new search area.

Whether he then put it back on autopilot after making those course corrections with an hour left, who knows, but that’s what they must be calling “being on autopilot”.


39 posted on 06/27/2014 6:30:36 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Very interesting. But are you doing anything to correct for the spherical to flat surface projection. Or, alternatively, have you determined that the mapping of straight lines works on the projection you are using.

As an example of this issue just look at the projection of any non-equatorial satellite on a flat map. No straight lines to be found.


40 posted on 06/27/2014 7:13:30 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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