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Billy Beane’s Ascendant A’s Are Playing a Brand-New Brand of Moneyball
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/06/billy-beane-oakland-as-new-moneyball.html ^ | June 28, 2014 | Will Leitch

Posted on 06/28/2014 1:57:24 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Edited on 06/28/2014 2:12:48 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The funniest thing about the legacy of Moneyball, the 2003 Michael Lewis book and the 2011 Brad Pitt movie, is that it quickly became an ongoing leadership seminar about losers.

Back in 2003, before disrupt became a buzzword in every Silicon Valley start-up, Billy Beane and the Oakland A

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1 posted on 06/28/2014 1:57:24 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The Cubs have given up on the season? Say it isn’t so!


2 posted on 06/28/2014 2:03:37 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nickcarraway

What the money ball movie ignored is what REALLY wins in baseball; pitching. The money ball A’s had some pretty good pitching.


3 posted on 06/28/2014 2:07:36 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: nickcarraway

They certainly aren’t getting much resistance from my Marlins this weekend.


4 posted on 06/28/2014 2:16:09 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: nickcarraway

They’re playing up the 1984 WS anniversary celebration in Detroit on the 30th.


5 posted on 06/28/2014 2:29:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: fungoking

I disagree, sort of. The key to winning baseball games is to score more runs than your opponent. Using SABRmetrics has been the key to Billyball’s success. Bill James revolutionized the baseball industry with his Baseball Abstracts which created new measures which used past performance to predict future success. Billy Bean, I believe, was the first to apply them.


6 posted on 06/28/2014 2:29:50 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: be-baw

Solid pitching, great defense and a running game will get you championships. No need to have.a 50 homer player who hits .250. Look at the Cardinals of the 80’s.


7 posted on 06/28/2014 3:07:22 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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Solid pitching, great defense and a running game will get you championships.

The formula changes, era to era. From 1993-2008 or so, any team with three decent starters would dominate because EVERYBODY hit. And SBs didn't matter much. Now, thankfully, we are back to the game I grew up on and the old values of defense and little ball matter again.

8 posted on 06/28/2014 3:21:13 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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To: nickcarraway

The Royals are still contenders in late June. Go KC!


9 posted on 06/28/2014 3:22:15 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: EQAndyBuzz

A lot of people thought the Tigers were nuts for trading Fielder. Sure he could hit home runs but that was all he could do and he forced Cabrera to play an uncomfortable 3rd base. (Plus Fielder is out for the season now)

Kinsler can hit more singles and is a better all around player and Cabrera is back at 1st base where he belongs.


10 posted on 06/28/2014 3:25:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: nickcarraway

Will this version of moneyball actually win a title? So far moneyball’s rep far outstrips its accomplishments.


11 posted on 06/28/2014 3:25:55 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: fungoking

You’re exactly right. The Moneyball concept was BS. They had Tim Hudson, Barry Zito, and Mark Mulder in their pitching prime.


12 posted on 06/28/2014 3:49:07 PM PDT by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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To: fungoking
What the money ball movie ignored is what REALLY wins in baseball; pitching.

Of course, pitching is where it all starts. If you've got really got pitching, the other side ain't hitting anything.

And to win the World Series, you need at least TWO really good pitchers - one isn't enough. (With 4-day rotation, you can put your ace in games 1,4 and 7, and your #2 guy in games 2 and 5).


13 posted on 06/28/2014 3:49:11 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: 1rudeboy

The Cubs are still playing?


14 posted on 06/28/2014 5:10:34 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: fungoking

In the movie and book, the three names that never were mentioned, Hudson, Mulder, and Zito. It would ruin a great premise.


15 posted on 06/29/2014 5:40:33 AM PDT by gusty
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