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The Universe Shouldn't Be Here, According to Higgs Physics
Live Science ^ | 06/23/2014 | Tia Ghose

Posted on 07/03/2014 11:34:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Oh heck he has to go and say th


41 posted on 07/03/2014 8:19:53 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Moonman62
Is it more accurate to say that quantum particles are guided by the hand of a supernatural being or that they follow the rules of quantum dynamics?

Easy! Quantum particles ultimately are guided by the hand of the Creator, as He owns the whole Lego set and He may do as He likes. God designed the universe, and in so doing, created the matter/energy/time/space within it, including all the normal laws that they all behave by.

If He wants to, He can override the system (like any good engineer), and He's done so on any number of occasions.

Regarding the known and discoverable laws of quantum dynamics, they are definitely non-intuitive, and apparently non-predictable (with 100% certainty, for any given single event) for those of us who live inside this space-time-matter-energy contraption.

I'll note that you were the first one to bring religion into this, and you quoted the guy (Physicist) who was thrown out of FR for trying to pervert science into a weapon against faith. That is truly a futile - and unsupported on FR - road to go down.

42 posted on 07/03/2014 8:53:16 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: mbarker12474

Maybe we’re still in the first microsecond of the big bang. We all just move really, really fast.


43 posted on 07/03/2014 9:00:27 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Yossarian

I was responding to someone else who brought religion into the thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3175636/posts?page=15#15

You butted in.

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Physicist still has an account here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~physicist/

He left on his own, which is too bad because he was informative on scientific matters, though I differed with him on subjects like libertarianism.

Quantum particles do follow the rules of quantum dynamics. As I said before, if they didn’t you wouldn’t have a job.

If you don’t think the universe is understandable and predictable as created by God, then let’s see you provide evidence for your claimed miracles using the same high standard you set for predictability.


44 posted on 07/03/2014 9:23:51 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If there were massive inflation, wouldn’t that indicate that a Dem administration was in office shortly after the Big Bang?
Cheers!


45 posted on 07/03/2014 9:26:05 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Moonman62
Look, if you choose to not believe in the current state of understanding of quantum physics, that's your choice.

If you have a theory (and an experiment to prove that theory) that the wave function is to be treated as something absolute, and not a probability density, well, knock yourself out - if you can do it, you'll win yourself a Nobel Prize fer sur.

That you claim I don't believe in the rules of physics that makes my career in electronics possible is a joke, but, hey, you have the freedom to be a preening faux-intellectual joker, too...

...but it doesn't mean you're right.

46 posted on 07/03/2014 10:00:47 PM PDT by Yossarian
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From The Strange World of Quantum Mechanics:
The fact that quantum mechanics is strange does not mean that quantum mechanics is unsuccessful. On the contrary, quantum mechanics is the most successful theory that humanity has ever developed; the brightest jewel in our intellectual crown. Quantum mechanics underlies our understanding of atoms, molecules, solids, and nuclei. It is vital for explaining aspects of stellar evolution, chemical reactions, and the interaction of light with matter. It underlies the operation of lasers, transistors, magnets, and superconductors. I could cite reams of evidence backing up these assertions, but I will content myself by describing a single measurement. One electron will be stripped away from a helium atom that is exposed to ultraviolet light below a certain wavelength. This threshold wavelength can be determined experimentally to very high accuracy: it is
50.425 929 9 ± 0.000 000 4 nanometers.
The threshold wavelength can also be calculated from quantum mechanics: this prediction is
50.425 931 0 ± 0.000 002 0 nanometers.
The agreement between observation and quantum mechanics is extraordinary. If you were to predict the distance from New York to Los Angeles with this accuracy, your prediction would be correct to within the width of your hand.
Why do you consider randomness and probability to be evidence for the supernatural, especially when it doesn't stop quantum mechanics from making very accurate predictions, explaining numerous natural phenomenon, and greatly increasing our understanding of God's creation?
47 posted on 07/04/2014 1:29:41 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In a sane world Obama wouldn’t be here, but here we are...


48 posted on 07/04/2014 1:38:01 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses...)
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