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.....The sidearm they need has already been invented.;
1 posted on 07/05/2014 12:47:51 PM PDT by virgil283
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God Bless John Moses Browning.

/johnny

2 posted on 07/05/2014 12:48:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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You’ll shoot yer eye out with that thing.


3 posted on 07/05/2014 12:51:09 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Obama - The Scandal a Week President.)
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No matter what caliber they choose, they’re probably still stuck with an FMJ.


4 posted on 07/05/2014 12:52:18 PM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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With the right bullets, the 9mm is a fine round. The problem is the military will not use them. I think I have read that they have the right to use them but for some reason will not.

If you must stick to fmj bullets then a .45 is preferable. The old 1911 is fine but I think we can do better now. Maybe the new Sig double column mag. model would do.


5 posted on 07/05/2014 12:52:50 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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Unfortunately that would mean admitting a mistake - something government minions very rarely do. Instead they’ll spend millions on a study, then more millions on research and development, then still more millions on a pilot project, then the whole thing will get whacked in a budget deal.


6 posted on 07/05/2014 12:53:36 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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Lots of comments here.
7 posted on 07/05/2014 12:55:02 PM PDT by Hoodat (Proverbs 29:2)
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Just use a 22-250!


8 posted on 07/05/2014 12:56:29 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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I carried that while I was in the service, but if I was to be separated from my APC, I would be looking hard for an M14.


9 posted on 07/05/2014 12:56:58 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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John Moses Browning invented the Army’s more potent sidearm 103 years ago! It replaced the anemic Colt Single Action Army (SAA) that was chambered in .38 Colt.


11 posted on 07/05/2014 12:59:10 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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The shift from the 1911 was never about combat performance. It was all about giving Europe a contract and having a pistol to fit female-sized hands.
13 posted on 07/05/2014 1:01:01 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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If memory serves right MARSOC already adopted 1911 pattern handguns or their sidearm. I hear Green Berets, and Delta use them as well, as well as other members of the Special Operations community. There are already several qualified experts that can train people on the 1911 platform should somebody decide to bring it back.

Such a thing was already done with the M-14, they were brought back as Designated Marksman Rifles and also used in the past in sniper rifle form as the M-21.


14 posted on 07/05/2014 1:01:38 PM PDT by Antihero101607
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Another full bird or one star in acquisitions is getting ready to retire.


16 posted on 07/05/2014 1:03:05 PM PDT by Tailback
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In the Philippines, General Pershing’s troops proved that this fine weapon did a great job of dropping raging ragheads.


22 posted on 07/05/2014 1:09:13 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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They don’t call it ‘’man stopper’’ for nothing. Bring it back.


24 posted on 07/05/2014 1:09:54 PM PDT by jmacusa
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The reason the 1911A1 has survived so long is a rare combination of things: a .45 ACP will stop even a hashish-hopped, leather band wearing Muslim fanatic, something a .38 was far less likely to do (Philippine Insurrection); it could survive and function in extremes of cold and heat, wet and dusty dry; it almost never jammed; it had a barrel end safety, a grip safety, a slide safety, a sear disconnect, half cock safety, and firing pin safety.


25 posted on 07/05/2014 1:10:04 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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The sidearm they need has already been invented

My Dad had one of these through most of my formative years. It was fun to shoot. My issue with is was it wasn't reliably accurate at a range of just over six feet.

It seemed designed to work in any environment, but also seemed to have quite tolerant ranges in its few moving parts.

26 posted on 07/05/2014 1:10:49 PM PDT by stevem
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Much ado about nothing. I never carried a pistol in combat, even when it was my assigned weapon. Only a rifle did what I needed done. Those who truly need a pistol for something other than as a symbol of authority or as a personal defense weapon already have what they want. Special Operations forces choose the weapon that they want and they often choose a Sig Sauer in various chamberings. When I was spending my own money, I bought a Sig Sauer P228R in 9mm. Don’t quite know why the Army chose the Berreta over the Sig, but they did and its been OK. My list of stuff that I need/want would be pretty long by the time I got around to picking what pistol I needed.


34 posted on 07/05/2014 1:20:04 PM PDT by centurion316
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G.Gordon Liddy's email used to be 'potent357(at)AOL.com', or something like that.

Whenever a female caller asked how he was, he would answer, 'virile, vigorous and POTENT!'

38 posted on 07/05/2014 1:29:07 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Fightin' in a basement)
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S&W 500. Don’t leave the Humvee without it. :-)


42 posted on 07/05/2014 1:37:59 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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DUH.. They had the pistol they needed in the 45acp round.
Never should have left it.


43 posted on 07/05/2014 1:39:52 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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