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Which Of California's Six States Should You Live In? If Tim Draper Splits It, Here's Your Guide...
Bustle.com ^ | July 16, 2014 | Chris Tognotti

Posted on 07/18/2014 3:38:46 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

It’s possible you’ve already heard of the greatest harebrained political scheme of the year: Venture capitalist Tim Draper’s plan to break California into six states, which might actually face a statewide vote in 2016. It all depends on whether Draper managed to snag the necessary number of signatures — 807,615 according to SFGate — to get the plan on the ballot. He’s claimed to have 1.3 million signatures, which would mean the residents of California would get to vote on the biggest breakup proposal in state history.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: californias; sixcalifornias; timdraper
Alright this is still a long shot, but the guy has 1.3 million signatures (supposedly) already, he needs 807 thousand.

This poster is rooting for him.

1 posted on 07/18/2014 3:38:46 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Twelve “California” US Senators?


2 posted on 07/18/2014 3:39:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If the left coast gets SIX more senators we are finished. This poster is most emphatically not rooting for him.


3 posted on 07/18/2014 3:41:55 PM PDT by Thurifer the Censer (If you can see the altar, there's not enough smoke)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Central California

Pros:

•Like most of California, brimming with an abundant natural beauty, if a rather dry one.
•The base of California’s agricultural economy, with farmlands stretching all throughout the valley — it here that Cesar Chavez organized the National Farmworkers Association in the 1960s.
•Political implications aside, the California Aqueduct is pretty cool looking.

Cons:

•That aforementioned LAO report found that Central California would be the country’s poorest state.
•Dependent on the underpaid, over-exerted migrant farm workers who pick and tend crops under the blazing-hot summer sun.
•The entire state of California is in the grips of a drought right now, and that’s a huge problem for residents and landowners in the valley.

I would think that after freeing itself from the welfare tax state and enviro whackjobs they could afford to hire actual citizens as workers and have enough water to raise stuff..


4 posted on 07/18/2014 3:43:07 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Sorry... I meant TEN


5 posted on 07/18/2014 3:43:24 PM PDT by Thurifer the Censer (If you can see the altar, there's not enough smoke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More likely they would concentrate all the Conservatives in one state. So in the Senate you have:
GOP +2
rats +8


6 posted on 07/18/2014 3:43:54 PM PDT by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're yelling "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well a vast majority of those would likely be democrats.

However it would split up the electoral votes from the state.

I’m for this.


7 posted on 07/18/2014 3:44:00 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The one that enacts Constitutioal Carry because I know if they get that right they’ll be pretty solid on most other things.


8 posted on 07/18/2014 3:45:18 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I just want to separate Chicago off into it’s own state, then the rest of us in IL could offset it, at least in the Senate.


9 posted on 07/18/2014 3:46:02 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

This is idiocy. It isn’t a long shot. It is utterly impossible and has galvanized Dims to vote. This man is a fool’s fool

There is more of a chance I’ll get my own personal condo on Mars with cable.


10 posted on 07/18/2014 3:51:23 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Where is Mexifornia on the list?


11 posted on 07/18/2014 3:52:20 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I believe electoral votes equals number of reps + senators, so they would end up having even more electoral votes if I’m correct.


12 posted on 07/18/2014 3:53:52 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Thurifer the Censer
Given they way he proposes to break up the effect in the senate would likely be a wash - split equally between the parties.

Compared to what we have today - Boxer & Feinstien.

13 posted on 07/18/2014 3:54:43 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The state of Jefferson, and we could add the Oregon counties on the north end of our new state. There are a lot of good people in those counties, being robbed daily to pay for the dope smoking liberals in the rest of the state, living on the taxes collected from S. Oregon.


14 posted on 07/18/2014 4:06:40 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, aka, new democRat voters and his 2016 FDR 3rd term attempt!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I want to live in the very conservative part or county. Not next to some hippies running around naked and on dope.


15 posted on 07/18/2014 4:08:31 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: Paine in the Neck

“The one that enacts Constitutional Carry because I know if they get that right they’ll be pretty solid on most other things.”

The new state of Jefferson would enable carry laws, and they might require it in certain counties.


16 posted on 07/18/2014 4:08:44 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, aka, new democRat voters and his 2016 FDR 3rd term attempt!)
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To: Grampa Dave

I think this has a chance.

He evidently already has enough signatures.

There is a trade-off. The electoral votes, which are currently all doing to Dems, will be partly split, and the GOP will win in that regard. Recognizing Dems will still have a majority, but some will split off.

However there will be a number of new Senators, and (most) of those will go Democrat.

So I’m not convinced either side would necessarily object.


17 posted on 07/18/2014 4:11:12 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Along with Central California, Jefferson is a heavily-conservative region of the state — of the 14 counties it contains, 12 backed Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential election.”

This is a “con” of living in the newly-created state of Jefferson?


18 posted on 07/18/2014 4:13:53 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It depends if I am for it. Where would Calaveras County fit in?


19 posted on 07/18/2014 4:19:25 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

How do they get six? There is Oregafornia, Nevadafornia, Arizonifornia,Tiajuanafornia and Catalinafornia. That’s only 5!!!


20 posted on 07/18/2014 4:19:45 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I love the area where I live, the two north bay Wine Counties, however, I would move to the State of Jefferson if it happened. Our area becomes more elite liberal each week as rich trust fund liberals leave the east coast and Houston to move out here for the weather.

The people in the Jefferson area (including the S. Oregon Counties) are good people. A large % of the Democrats in that area, are the old type of democrat not the looney tune progressives in the rest of California.


21 posted on 07/18/2014 4:20:48 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, aka, new democRat voters and his 2016 FDR 3rd term attempt!)
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To: make no mistake

Not sure.

Here is the breakout:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/petition-submitted-split-california-states-article-1.1869251


22 posted on 07/18/2014 4:22:02 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: TurboZamboni

“Where is Mexifornia on the list?”

LA aka big La Raza.


23 posted on 07/18/2014 4:22:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, aka, new democRat voters and his 2016 FDR 3rd term attempt!)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

Yep, that is a “con” to the liberal that wrote this. I picked up the stench of a liberal quite soon.


24 posted on 07/18/2014 4:33:45 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: bigbob

You’d give up your chance to vote against MooseChelle for Senator in 2016?


25 posted on 07/18/2014 4:38:10 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: InterceptPoint

You left out “Fagofornia”


26 posted on 07/18/2014 4:46:40 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

So is the rest of the country obligated to recognize them as 6 states? Maybe Texas could play that game too.

How about if Rhode Island decides they want a couple more senators and split into two states? Hawaii wants each island to be a state.

I think the rest of the country should tell California the two senators they already have are too many.


27 posted on 07/18/2014 4:53:43 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: All

Could be net +6 for the GOP senators....(12 total, 8 GOP/4 ‘Rat) based on the 6 state map...California is 75% conservative based on land area (’rats concentrated in L.A. & Bay Area): http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=6&year=2004


28 posted on 07/18/2014 5:00:52 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Gil4

Yes but you’re missing the other half.

There are two halves to this.

There would be more senators. Most would be democrats. That is not good.

However there would be more Republican electoral votes.

That is good.

Both sides would win something. Both would lose something.

I think it’s sort of a wash, but it would make sense to me.

Just my personal opinion.

You may completely feel the opposite.


29 posted on 07/18/2014 5:01:07 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Gil4

Oklahoma should form a state for each county. 77 red states.


30 posted on 07/18/2014 5:04:31 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Having existing ties to Jefferson I would move there.


31 posted on 07/18/2014 5:07:40 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

California law is the electoral votes go to the winner of the popular vote nation wide. If it ever looked like it was going to benefit us our supreme court would declare it unconstitutional in a heartbeat.


32 posted on 07/18/2014 5:10:10 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: bigbob

You left out “Fagofornia”
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My bad. How could I have missed that one?


33 posted on 07/18/2014 5:20:54 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
which might actually face a statewide vote in 2016.

A remarkably stupid way to go about it.

The US Constitution requires only a simple majority vote of both the state legislature and Congress to divide a state.

The results of an initiative by the state's internal rules is irrelevant.

34 posted on 07/18/2014 5:21:03 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

With 10 more liberal Senators, I will continue to live in Colorado....and join whatever nation Texas becomes....


35 posted on 07/18/2014 5:25:15 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’d be in South California, comprised of Orange, San Diego, Imperial, San Bernardino, and Riverside Counties. Overall I’d expect it to lean conservative by about a 55/45 margin, maybe a little better.

Where do I sign the petition?


36 posted on 07/18/2014 7:32:32 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The Great State of Jefferson; I already live here so I din’t have to move.


37 posted on 07/18/2014 8:10:37 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Oklahoma should form a state for each county. 77 red states.

I'm announcing my candidacy for senator from the great state of Jackson (formerly Jackson County). I think I'm going to need approval to maintain a remote work location, because there aren't going to be any seats left in the Capitol.

38 posted on 07/18/2014 8:20:30 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Yes but you’re missing the other half.”

I didn’t really look at either half. Why should the other states just go along with California’s scheming to increase its influence? What leverage do the have?


39 posted on 07/18/2014 8:25:11 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Gil4

“because there aren’t going to be any seats left in the Capitol.”

Perfect. Make the b@$#@rds stand. They won’t be able to sit around conspiring against the people. Get the job done and get the hell out.


40 posted on 07/18/2014 8:39:11 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I am rooting for him too, but if anyone thinks the libtards will let their slaves go they got another think coming.


41 posted on 07/18/2014 9:11:04 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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