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Did the Oklahoma City bomber have another accomplice?
Daily Mail ^

Posted on 07/27/2014 10:55:16 PM PDT by TigerClaws

One man's quest to explain his brother's mysterious jail cell death 19 years ago has rekindled long-dormant questions about whether others were involved in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

What some consider a far-flung conspiracy theory will be at the forefront during a trial set to begin Monday in Salt Lake City. The Freedom of Information Act lawsuit was brought by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue against the FBI.

He says the agency won't release security camera videos that show a second person was with Timothy McVeigh when he parked a truck outside the Oklahoma City federal building and detonated a bomb, killing 168 people. The government claims McVeigh was alone.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2708050/Did-Oklahoma-City-bomber-accomplice-How-one-mans-mystery-death-jail-cell-brothers-quest-justice-upend-understanding-domestic-terror-attack.html#ixzz38jwAzX5T Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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1 posted on 07/27/2014 10:55:16 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

That’s because John Doe #2 was an Iraqi.


2 posted on 07/27/2014 10:56:33 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: TigerClaws; Crim

Okbomb!: Conspiracy and Cover-Up
http://www.amazon.com/Okbomb-Conspiracy-Cover-Up-Jim-Keith/dp/1881532089/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406527251&sr=8-1&keywords=okbomb


3 posted on 07/27/2014 11:00:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: null and void

Conspiracy?


4 posted on 07/27/2014 11:01:50 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: TigerClaws

“There are no more droids you are looking for”


5 posted on 07/27/2014 11:05:24 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: TigerClaws
Some speculation over who was "John Doe #2" has led to the "dirty bomber", now in jail.


6 posted on 07/27/2014 11:07:47 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: TigerClaws

1- We should all have a brother as doggedly persistent as Mr Trentadue.

2- I wonder if Jayna Davis will be called as a witness.


7 posted on 07/27/2014 11:10:40 PM PDT by YankeeinOkieville (Obamanation [oh-bom-uh-nay-shuhn] n. -- ignorance and arrogance in the highest offices)
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To: YankeeinOkieville

At last, a response at least alluding to the article in question!


8 posted on 07/27/2014 11:13:49 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No doubt there was a cover-up but from whom? Our Government perhaps. I can not ever forget that morning when I heard about OK Bombing. I turned on CNN (I know) and the reporter stated that there were rumors that there were other bombs. Then everyone was told to run because there was going to be another explosion. So this reporter was interviewing a Fireman when they were told to run. As they were running the reporter asked the fireman what he knew. He said there were more bombs ATTACH to the other PILLARS of the building. The reporter asked him how did he know that, he stated “I SAW IT”. He said they were attached to the pillars as if all 4 corners of the building were meant to collapse (Thank God it didn’t).

Now who placed those strapped attached bombs to the building pillars? Whatever happen to the fireman, he was never interviewed again. As for John Doe #2, well our government propably said “You think you saw JD #2, but we tell you there is no JD #2.

So yes there is a cover up but one day the truth shall be revealed.


9 posted on 07/27/2014 11:42:24 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: YankeeinOkieville

She convinced me.


10 posted on 07/27/2014 11:46:12 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: TigerClaws
Watch "A Noble Lie" free on the web and it will explain a lot.

Most extensive research I have seen on the subject.

11 posted on 07/27/2014 11:51:58 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: TigerClaws

The government claims McVeigh was alone.
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The gov’t. also claimed Oswald acted alone. Does anyone still believe that?

I recall the OKC bombing and stories soon after of another man with McVeigh.


12 posted on 07/27/2014 11:57:26 PM PDT by octex
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To: TigerClaws

Both Clinton and Bush behaved suspiciously, as there were documents kept hidden from the defense, which were “found” in 2001, yet they still killed McVeigh as if nothing shady had happened. If this were a case about a rape or a mugging, they would have looked into the hidden documents.


13 posted on 07/28/2014 12:03:54 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

I seem to remember a foot with a boot attached that was never accounted for......


14 posted on 07/28/2014 12:09:48 AM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Telepathic Intruder
And this one (wouldn't having a stocking over his head have made his upper lip look like that?)


15 posted on 07/28/2014 12:15:46 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Patriot Babe
No doubt there was a cover-up but from whom? Our Government perhaps.

Couldn't POSSIBLY be the same CIC who also couldn't be bothered to get o- sam-a two different times because one time, when he got the call, he was busy with golf, and the other time he was busy with ah - a blue dress? A prez who was enjoying being prez but who didn't really want to get bogged down in the nitty-gritty of the job?

16 posted on 07/28/2014 12:37:09 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: TigerClaws

” He says the agency won’t release security camera videos that show a second person was with Timothy McVeigh when he parked a truck”

Those tapes long ago got “Louis Lerner’d” and “Sandy Berger’d”.
Besides, if word got out that a Muslim helped with the okc bombing, they would have to admit that Islam has been in an active state of war and provocation for a lot longer than “ since 9/11”.


17 posted on 07/28/2014 1:29:27 AM PDT by Darksheare (I don't have a copy. one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: TigerClaws

the fbi and our gub mint constantly LIE to protect mooselimbs from our anger and retribution.


18 posted on 07/28/2014 1:51:52 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: TigerClaws

I have said it for years, Jose Padilla is John Doe #2.


19 posted on 07/28/2014 2:13:18 AM PDT by Duke of Milan
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To: Darksheare

Well, 9-11 wasn’t the first attempt at the WTC.


20 posted on 07/28/2014 2:46:03 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is a video called, “A Noble Lie”, http://www.anoblelie.com/


21 posted on 07/28/2014 3:29:45 AM PDT by stratous (Then said he unto them, and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36)
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To: TigerClaws

I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but OKC was a heck of a big job for one person to do totally alone.


22 posted on 07/28/2014 3:30:38 AM PDT by BobL
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To: TigerClaws

I recall immediately after that bombing that there was another person involved in this....I am open minded on this one. My question would be what is the reason for the denial of this person?


23 posted on 07/28/2014 4:57:22 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: Duke of Milan

Absolutely he is. Did you know that the other perp convicted with macveigh, had a woman, dont know if she was a girl friend or his wife, but her maiden name was also padilla.


24 posted on 07/28/2014 5:12:57 AM PDT by weezel
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To: TigerClaws

TalkingStickTV - Jesse Trentadue - Death, Lies, and Revenge in Federal Custody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2fk3sk13pg


25 posted on 07/28/2014 5:35:52 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: TigerClaws

Or was it the German guy (Andre Strassmeir?) who helped him obtain the materials and build the bomb?


26 posted on 07/28/2014 5:36:25 AM PDT by Clay Moore ("911 is for when the backhoe won't start." JRandomFreeper)
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To: TigerClaws

I remember the news reports from ABC that morning. They said to be on the lookout for “five dark swarthy complected men, of Middle East extraction, seen fleeing the scene wearing blue running suits.”


27 posted on 07/28/2014 6:34:32 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: spokeshave

I remember that. It was a boot, foot inside a piece of camo pants clothing. I believe tests showed it was a black woman’s leg.


28 posted on 07/28/2014 6:38:03 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: TigerClaws; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

29 posted on 07/28/2014 6:48:45 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: Crim

Bingo


30 posted on 07/28/2014 6:55:13 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: TigerClaws

Why would the agency cover something up unless it involved them?

Would not surprise me at all.


31 posted on 07/28/2014 7:00:29 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: TigerClaws

Did they ever explains the extra leg that was found at the scene with camo trousers still attached? .....................


32 posted on 07/28/2014 7:09:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Crim

That’s right!


33 posted on 07/28/2014 7:11:54 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

But there were no black women reported missing from that day..............


34 posted on 07/28/2014 7:13:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

OR

They TOLD us that it was a black female. Doesn’t mean that it was...................


35 posted on 07/28/2014 7:14:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: TigerClaws

IIRC, the FBI confiscated about 21 videos from various security cameras in the area of the Murrah Building.

The contents of those videos have never been made public.


36 posted on 07/28/2014 7:19:02 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: null and void

Jayna Davis, a reporter in OKC at the time, wrote a fabulous book called The Third Terrorist that proved this very point


37 posted on 07/28/2014 7:28:48 AM PDT by Nifster
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From Wikipedia, interesting that you never see his Muslim name.

José Padilla, also known as Abdullah al-Muhajir or Muhajir Abdullah, is a United States citizen from Brooklyn, New York, who was convicted in federal court of aiding terrorists.


38 posted on 07/28/2014 7:36:01 AM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: spokeshave
I seem to remember a foot with a boot attached that was never accounted for......

One of the weirdest bits to come out of that day was  the fact that the sitting Governor was the one who personally found the axel of the truck that had the "VIN" on it. Yeah we all believe that one.

 

39 posted on 07/28/2014 7:40:53 AM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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To: Eagles6

Me too.......


40 posted on 07/28/2014 7:44:47 AM PDT by southland ( I have faith in the creator Republicans freed the slaves. psalms 37:4)
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To: Mean Daddy

indeed


41 posted on 07/28/2014 7:50:23 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Jayna Davis, a reporter in OKC at the time, wrote a fabulous book called The Third Terrorist that proved this very point

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Jayna hung around here a bit back in the day when her book came out.

Answers to conspiracy theories tend to open up a lot of side issues, and when I asked her point blank, why would George Bush maintain the fiction (which she alleged), her answer was to read the book.

Except that the question isn’t answered in her book.

I was 5 in ‘63, and my dad died the same year. I became a pretty avid reader of the JFK conspiracy stuff, maybe as a result, who knows. They all suffered from the same thing Jayna’s theories suffer from. They all rely on speculations that require leaps of faith too far for me to jump. JMO.


42 posted on 07/28/2014 7:55:41 AM PDT by dmz
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To: stratous

Just watched A Noble Lie. There are some parts which seem a little shaky, but mostly - - WOW.

Well worth the watch.

Without getting into it too much, here are some thoughts it inspired:

Bill Clinton, Bill, Clinton, Bill Clinton. OKC, Flight 800 and the FBI. The implications are astonishing.

The involvement of the SPLC as an arm of the FBI.

Fast and Furious parallels.

Ruby Ridge - - Waco - - OKC - - Flight 800 - - 9/11. 1) Focusing on the wrong “terrorists.” 2) Giving actual terrorists a pass. 3) Advancing the interests of the government as the first and only priority. 4) Ignoring jihad.

The documentary is just about OKC, the other connections I make are my own observations. I am not implying a causal connection as much as a philosophical and institutional connection, a run-amok government-can-do-no-wrong attitude.

If you are at a poker game and are wondering who the sucker is, you are the sucker.

Guess who the government thinks the sucker is? And isn’t that exactly the blatant attitude we get from the Regime?


43 posted on 07/28/2014 8:04:01 AM PDT by Gratia
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To: octex
>"The gov’t. also claimed Oswald acted alone."

Trajectories and ballistics PROVE the third fatal headshot came from a hungover SS man with M16 falling on his but in the following car!

44 posted on 07/28/2014 8:59:54 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Miss Marple

Hi, long time no talk to. I hope you and Mr. Marple are doing well.

5.56mm


45 posted on 07/28/2014 9:11:31 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Crim

Or, more likely IMO, the guy was a Fed agent-provacateur.


46 posted on 07/28/2014 9:27:08 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I never doubted the sketch was of Jose Padilla. However, if our government lied, then it’s anyone’s guess if the sketch is a likeness of the other Oklahoma bomber.


47 posted on 07/28/2014 10:18:14 AM PDT by bgill
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To: expat2

Nope..Jayna Davis ID’d the guy...and he sued her for libal and slander...the judge threw it out....he found no evidence that he WASNT the guy.


48 posted on 07/28/2014 10:21:45 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: 4everontheRight
I am open minded on this one. My question would be what is the reason for the denial of this person?

Every time there is a terrorist attack, we are told by the officials that it was the actions of a lone wolf, not an organized plot by a larger organization or funded by a host nation.

The officials want to deny foreign implications which would rise to the level of a military response (war) on those behind the attack(s).

49 posted on 07/28/2014 11:43:26 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: TigerClaws

Yes, Islamic, next question.


50 posted on 07/28/2014 12:29:08 PM PDT by Wicket (1 Peter 3:15 , Romans 5:5-8)
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