Posted on 07/29/2014 2:14:16 PM PDT by FlJoePa
First I’ve heard that Sandusky was cleared of the sex (Source?) with a minor in the shower.
...the context of Sandusky involved in anal raping of a child in the showers (McQueary’s testimony) is quite untenable in any court of law, and Sandusky was acquitted of this charge, as no evidence existed to corroborate...but once this whole mess is boiled down to its essence, we see it revolves around Schultz and Curley testifying that McQueary’s testimony to them conveyed horseplay, rather than sexual fondling...a lame rationalization, considering that McQueary made his point clearly to Paterno, of their calculated decision to keep the Sandusky matter in house...
...and this decision was calculated with the belief that none of this stuff would ever see the light of day in the general public...it can be argued that they believed they acted in the best interest of the school, and that by privately sanctioning Sandusky’s priveleges they’d done their duty, but it would be a weak argument indeed...
...as for lifting the bowl ban, I suspect that in two weeks or so we will see that, or at worst, only one more season...
...in one of your responses to me on this issue, you called me stupid for buying into thieves and liars when I mentioned the evidence laid out in Victim 1’s book... and some of your later postings seem to indicate that you believe that the preponderance of testimony against Sandusky is false...I’m just curious...do you still believe that to be true...? And if so, upon what basis do you claim that...?
...and what I’d really like to find out is how you know Victim 1 and his mother are liars and cheats...
As I thought, there are only two people on the planet that are stating the rape in the shower didn’t happen, Sandusky and FlJoePa.
Or maybe FlJoePa is Sandusky. That would explain a lot.
As I thought, there are only two people on the planet that are stating the rape in the shower didn’t happen, Sandusky and FlJoePa.
...for the record, I also do not believe that McQueary witnessed anal rape...I have reason to believe Sandusky was lifting the youth from behind up toward the showerhead, for what purpose I can only surmise...quite the bizarre scene, from McQueary’s point of view, doubly so considering the time of night and the emptiness of building...
...btw, Sandusky’s lawyer attempted to explain his client’s predeliction for showering with lone boys as a means to provide them with proper cleanliness habits...I kid you not...
...the point is, before I accuse Sandusky of anal rape, I need to see more evidence of it, which has not been forthcoming...
...and as I said before, the broader context in this regard is that PSU officials treated McQueary’s allegations as if they were consistent with horseplay, like towel snapping, and decided to deal in house with Sandusky, which means, essentially, that they did nothing...strange, when you consider that Paterno had no trouble understanding the darker tone of McQueary’s account, and recommended kicking it upstairs...in hindsight, of course, Paterno’s lack of involvement seems callous, but at the time, he at least realized the problem and made a suggestion, so we have to give him credit for that, and I believe that the PSU BOT erred badly in firing him the way they did...
...the only fault I find with Paterno in this matter was his stated reason for his inaction, that Sandusky no longer reported to him, and he didn’t want to corrupt the official response...I see little honor in this position, as Paterno was responsible for Sandusky being there in the first place, and if anybody could have gotten something done at PSU, it was Paterno himself...
Or maybe FlJoePa is Sandusky. That would explain a lot.
...I believe he is a PSU grad, who would prefer to pin the blame on outsiders, such as ESPN and NCAA, both of whom, arguably, made a hash out of this on several levels...
...I can understand his reluctance to see any fault in Paterno and the football regime, but fault is there notwithstanding...but, as I’ve repeatedly said, some other method of dealing with Paterno could have been found, other than outright disgrace...
Some people lose all reason and rationality as soon as the words "child" and "sex" are put into the same sentence.
What did other athletes do at schools who were punished? They did not do anything wrong either but they suffered. It happens all the time so why should this school be different? Innocents suffer all the time.
Some people lose all reason and rationality as soon as the words “child” and “sex” are put into the same sentence.
...you are aware, are you not, that all NCAA sanctions occur after the fact, with the current program made to suffer for the failure of previous programs...
...how could it be otherwise...?
You are splitting hairs. Any sexual act with a minor is statutory rape. Period.
You are splitting hairs. Any sexual act with a minor is statutory rape. Period.
...most assuredly I am splitting hairs, as must be done in any carefully constructed review of evidence...the question being did McQueary see anything ‘sexual’ going on; he clearly believed he did, and the Grand Jury agreed, and the rest is, as they say, history...
...but the fact is that had this been the only charge against Sandusky, he would be a free man today, Joe Paterno would have retired in glory, and PSU would be playing in bowl games, because there is no actual evidence that anything ‘sexual’ happened...the youth in question was never called to testify at trial (apparently he was quite volatile and unreliable as a witness, for either side), and Sandusky was acquitted of the McQueary based charge...
...of course, since Sandusky was a demented serial abuser, this was not the only charge, and he rots in jail, and PSU and the Paterno legacy pay the price for their inaction...
...and finally, I believe Paterno possibly could have survived this, had he kept a low profile and his mouth shut when the stuff hit the fan, but he didn’t, he called a press conference and announced he’d retire at year end...right after that the board made its phone call, as if to say ‘Mr. Paterno, your days of calling the football shots here, including your future, are over’...still wrong, IMO, but...
You are splitting hairs. Any sexual act with a minor is statutory rape. Period.
...most assuredly I am splitting hairs, as must be done in any carefully constructed review of evidence...the question being did McQueary see anything ‘sexual’ going on; he clearly believed he did, and the Grand Jury agreed, and the rest is, as they say, history...
...but the fact is that had this been the only charge against Sandusky, he would be a free man today, Joe Paterno would have retired in glory, and PSU would be playing in bowl games, because there is no actual evidence that anything ‘sexual’ happened...the youth in question was never called to testify at trial (apparently he was quite volatile and unreliable as a witness, for either side), and Sandusky was acquitted of the McQueary based charge...
...of course, since Sandusky was a demented serial abuser, this was not the only charge, and he rots in jail, and PSU and the Paterno legacy pay the price for their inaction...
...and finally, I believe Paterno possibly could have survived this, had he kept a low profile and his mouth shut when the stuff hit the fan, but he didn’t, he called a press conference and announced he’d retire at year end...right after that the board made its phone call, as if to say ‘Mr. Paterno, your days of calling the football shots here, including your future, are over’...still wrong, IMO, but...
...drat those double posting demons...
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