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First Ebola Patient Coming to USA for Treatment
Tha Daily Beast ^ | July 31, 2014 | Abby Haglage

Posted on 07/31/2014 7:47:14 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty

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61 posted on 08/01/2014 12:15:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

What could possibly go wrong?


62 posted on 08/01/2014 3:46:23 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: The Sons of Liberty

An epidemic is JUST THE THING to take our minds off F&F/Benghazi/IRS/EPA/Middle East chaos/amnesty. Yes, something that requires people to rely on Big Gub’mint once again! Hurray for our Big Gub’mint Overlords!


63 posted on 08/01/2014 4:32:22 AM PDT by MaggiesPitchfork
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
...my guess is that they anticipate more cases here in the U.S. sooner or later, so the doctors want to get hold of a couple and basically experiment with them, to see if there’s any way to improve patient outcomes when they’re in a First World setting, rather than Third World.

I expect this is the case. And this is more important than I think people realize.

The ability to defeat a weaponized Ebola is a critical and urgent need for national security. It is going to be damn near impossible to monitor and test cares and outcomes with useful information in a dirt floor, bloody table, rag-curtained hut surrounded by social unrest and virtually no quality controls.

I suspect the patients in question are fully expected to die and this is mostly a forensic care effort.

We vitally need this information.
64 posted on 08/01/2014 4:36:51 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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...but my guess is that they anticipate more cases here in the U.S. sooner or later, so the doctors want to get hold of a couple and basically experiment with them, to see if there’s any way to improve patient outcomes when they’re in a First World setting, rather than Third World.


Look at this....one of twenty sites, across the country....

http://www.kvia.com/news/cdc-designates-el-paso-an-ebola-quarantine-site/27255180


65 posted on 08/01/2014 6:16:55 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
No. They don’t THINK. They ‘feeeeeeeel’.

That's just for the cameras.

When push comes to shove, they don't care about anyone but themselves. Their 'post apocalyptic world would be a free for all.

66 posted on 08/01/2014 6:38:42 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Black Agnes
I wouldn't be so hard on Samaritan's Purse without being completely sure they were the driving force in this.

They may not have any choice in the matter.

This reeks of Government intervention, all the way.

67 posted on 08/01/2014 6:41:42 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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If that were the case they’d have brought them back last week when there was more time to treat them.

I suspect they’ve waited until Kent is no longer in posession of his faculties and relied on a weak wife or some other ruse.

Emory has this lovely level 4 containment facility they have never used. Just think of the funding stream they’ll get from this. That’s all the Emory faculty have considered.


68 posted on 08/01/2014 7:01:00 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Robert Teesdale

See my 68.


69 posted on 08/01/2014 7:01:31 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Smokin' Joe

It’s not just this. It’s the doctor in East TN that has ‘voluntarily’ quarantined himself having treated ebola patients while he was in Africa.

Presumably he flew back on a crowded international flight. Those flights are not short. You may feel fine getting on the flight in Africa and become ill during the flight. What then?

How totally and completely irresponsible.

Charities do NOT SPREAD disease.

If they can’t afford to fly their people back on private planes in such a situation and have a facility to quarantine them w/o their being around OTHER people they shoudn’t BE there at ALL.

How many OTHER of their ‘samaratins’ are bringing back pestilence from their ‘good deeds’?


70 posted on 08/01/2014 7:10:25 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Robert Teesdale

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20341423


71 posted on 08/01/2014 7:14:55 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Robert Teesdale

“We vitally need this information.”

We vitally need to keep this disease out of North & South America.
One screwup and a half billion people will die.


72 posted on 08/01/2014 7:35:02 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: Black Agnes
self serving faculty at Emory who have a level 4 facility they’ve been dying to use.

Might end up being literally

73 posted on 08/01/2014 8:37:55 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Black Agnes
You have a point. The responsible thing would be to isolate themselves for at least one incubation period prior to coming home.

It is one thing to place your self at risk, but a planeload of people (you only have to have a seat in the rest room), and all those they will contact in the near future (and who they will contact, etc.).

Even 24 hours of contagion before presenting serious symptoms (beyond fever, sweating, etc.) could wreak havoc.

74 posted on 08/01/2014 8:58:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Obama-Yutani wants Ebola for bioweapons development.


75 posted on 08/01/2014 9:05:41 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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Obama-Yutani wants Ebola for bioweapons development.

Probably for use on us.

I just heard that they're flying them into Dobbins ARB in Marietta, so I guess they'll make the 25-30 mile trip to Emory on I75, one of the busiest roads in the Country.

76 posted on 08/01/2014 11:10:31 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (I want 0bama to make history - First to be IMPEACHED and REMOVED!)
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To: Black Agnes

I just read an article that the Canadians have recently shown Ebola Zaire to be airborne transmission - from pigs to apes.

It may be my naiveness, but until that happened, I wasn’t that concerned about moving the doctor and missionary to an appropriately safeguarded US facility on non-commercial transport. And this good man (and woman) would have little to no chance where they are. The US and CDC are accustomed to handling dangerous illnesses, so I assumed they would put sufficient safeguards in place (though I grant you they’ve screwed up rather badly recently)

However, I have also read Hot Zone about Ebola Reston and folks who were scared to death of the virus still broke protocol and the virus was able to get out of the building multiple times. Had humans been vulnerable, holy moley.

You are right that folks like these die every day honoring their beliefs and given the increased danger of airborne, I agree with you that this should never have been done.

I apologize for misunderstanding your intent and concern regarding Samaritan’s Purse. I suspect their decision was made as I described above.


77 posted on 08/01/2014 12:13:49 PM PDT by Wicket (1 Peter 3:15 , Romans 5:5-8)
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To: Wicket

I’m just as concerned about apparently ‘healthy’ Samaritan’s purse missionaries returning to this country on international flights. They could easily have the disease but not be showing symptoms at the beginning of the flight. It’s a looong flight. But be showing symptoms at the end. What then? Assume it’s a touch of the flu or stomach bug or come clean and admit to the other 3 or 400 passengers that they’re returning from a hot zone?

And what if an infected but asymptomatic person was involved in an auto accident on the way home (to ‘voluntary quarantine) from the airport. They would infect every single first responder and ER person they came in contact with.

Just wholly irresponsible.


78 posted on 08/01/2014 12:38:28 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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I read that a Canadian physician returned to Canada and quarantined himself (showing no symptoms, just being safe). Assuming it’s not transmissible airborne, which is now known to be a bad assumption, he would be safe as long as he quarantines himself.

The wife of the doctor who is being brought back already came back several days ago, but allegedly wasn’t exposed.

First responders allegedly treat everyone as though they have AIDs, so bloodborne transmission protocol should protect them more or less, though the average Joe is very likely to be infected.

Now that the Canadians have seen it transmitted in water droplets - which could be a good flu-ey sneeze - it is indeed irresponsible in the extreme.

This is not going to be pretty, any way it plays out. Scary stuff and even with the best of intentions, people don’t follow protocol - if you haven’t already, read The Hot Zone.


79 posted on 08/01/2014 3:12:55 PM PDT by Wicket (1 Peter 3:15 , Romans 5:5-8)
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Oh yeah. I read The Hot Zone.

I thought my trust of the CDC couldn’t get much lower. But amazingly it did!


80 posted on 08/01/2014 3:14:08 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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