Theology Question

[MNDude]

I have a theological question that I have not heard asked before.

As we know, God gave his only Son to suffer and to die for our sins. As we can imagine, a parent seeing their son suffer must be the hardest thing possible, and the Father must have grieved greatly to see His Son suffer.

My question is, did the death itself of His son cause the Father to grieve as well?

I mean, when we humans lose a loved one, one of the biggest reasons is that this person is removed from Point A (where we are) to Point B (where we are not).

In the case of Christ, would it not be the opposite? Christ would go from Point A (not in the Father's presence)to Point B (in the Father's presence).

What are your thoughts?

[GGpaX4DumpedTea]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
(John 1:1-5 KJV)

The ‘loss’ was for a moment, and through the death and resurrection of the Son, many in the World were ‘gained’ by being reconciled to the Father. ‘For God so loved...that he gave his only begotten Son...’ Note also that the only way this could be ‘loss’ is if there were no resurrection.

We do know that Jesus exhibited human emotion. When told that Lazarus had died, ‘Jesus wept’.

[GGpaX4DumpedTea]

“I am rejecting him completely. NO human can be G-d in the flesh. It is heretical and blasphemous to say that a man can be G-d.”

And that, my FRiend, is why Jesus, Son of God (G-d), died. Because your ancestors refused to ‘recognize’ Him. Jesus was G-d, and became flesh that you and many others could be reconciled to the Father, G-d. The blasphemy is in rejecting Him, Jesus, G-d, Son of G-d, who became flesh to bring you to G-d.

The Pharisee’s knew that Jesus, though in the flesh, was G-d. Once they knew that they sought to kill Him. He was a threat to their power and to their existance.

[POWERSBOOTHEFAN]

I’m not of Jewish ancestry. I was baptized and raised as a Lutheran and I converted to Judaism.

I did not leave Christianity on a whim. I did extensive research on both religions and Judaism makes more sense.

There are very good and 100% legitimate reasons as to why Jews have rejected Jesus for thousands of years.

[LurkingSince'98]

“...NO human can be G-d in the flesh. It is heretical and blasphemous to say that a man can be G-d.”

your statement is pure heresy:

What follows are eight heresies, ranging from sects that see Jesus Christ as purely divine, to others which see him as purely human.

Sabellianism: Sabellianism is named for its founder Sabellius (fl. 2nd century). It is sometimes referred to as modalistic monarchianism. The father, son, and holy ghost are three modes, roles, or faces of a single person, God. This, of course, implies that Jesus Christ was purely divine, without humanness, and therefore could not truly have suffered or died.

Docetism: The name comes from the Greek word dokesis, meaning “to seem.” Along the same lines as Sabellianism, Docetism says that Christ was not a real human being and did not have a real human body. He only seemed to be human to us. In a nutshell...

Christ only (no Jesus)

Monophysitism: Monophysite comes from the Greek words for “one body.” This heresy says that Jesus Christ was a joining of the eternal Logos with the human person Jesus, which occured at incarnation. He therefore is two separate natures joined in one body. Monophysitism is very much alive in several present-day Egyptian and Middle Eastern sects of Christianity.

Jesus
> Jesus Christ
Christ

Adoptionism: Adoptionism says that Jesus was a human being who was “adopted” by God at his conception, at which point he developed a divine nature. Later versions sometimes suggest that he was adopted later, such as when he was baptized by John the Baptist.

Jesus > Christ

Nestorianism: Supposedly, Nestorius, Patriarch of Antioch (fl. 410), believed that Jesus Christ had two natures — man and God — which remained separate throughout his period on earth. This is not really what Nestor said (although he did deny virgin birth) but the name stuck. You can still find a few Nestorian churches in Iran.

Jesus......
Christ......

Apollinarianism: Named for Apollinaris of Laodicea (fl. 350), this heresy says that Jesus Christ was not a real man, but not totally divine either. Apollinarians suggested that he had a human body and a human soul, but his mind was taken over by the eternal Logos.

Je(Christ)sus

Arianism: Arianism is named after Arius (c. 250 - c. 336), a priest in Alexandria. This is considered the most serious heresy. Jesus Christ was thought of as a special creation by God for man’s salvation. Arianism was the form of Christianity that the Goths adhered to, and it was popular in all the areas they conquered, including Italy, Spain, and Africa.

Socianism: A version of Arianism called Socianism (from the Latin socius, meaning “companion), simply says that Jesus was an extraordinary man. This heresy still lives on in two very different forms, the Unitarians and the Jehova’s Witnesses.

Jesus only (no Christ)

pick your flavor

AMDG