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Eric Garner's death in NYPD chokehold case ruled a homicide
la times ^ | By James Queally, Alana Semuels

Posted on 08/02/2014 4:27:33 PM PDT by Morgana

The controversial death of a New York City man who was placed in a chokehold by police was formally ruled a homicide Friday, a move that will almost certainly place the officers in front of a grand jury and heighten tensions between residents and the police department, city officials and policing experts said.

Eric Garner, 43, died after being placed in a chokehold that caused him to suffer neck and chest compressions during his arrest two weeks ago in the Tompkinsville section of Staten Island, according to findings released by the New York City medical examiner’s office. Garner’s weight, chronic asthma and cardiovascular disease were listed as contributing factors.

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1 posted on 08/02/2014 4:27:33 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: dragnet2; DariusBane; G Larry

More news


2 posted on 08/02/2014 4:32:57 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: Morgana
Good! A citizen standing on the street in front of his store shouldn't have to worry about the police murdering him in broad daylight in front of his family and the whole neighborhood.
3 posted on 08/02/2014 4:34:33 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Thanks for the ping...

This should be interesting...


4 posted on 08/02/2014 4:34:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Morgana
nothing will stop the abuse by the police till they PERSONALLY have to pay or face the consequences. They are protected by the state and their unions to kill, maim, destroy and otherwise act like douche bags because NO MONEY COMES OUT OF THEIR POCKETS or the don't face jail time.

We had cops in San Antonio beat the crap out of someone and the chief of police said essentially oops my guys got the wrong guy but I can see how.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-beat-father-point-hospitalization-oh-wrong-guy/

among other things the SA thugs in blue like to do.

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/05/03/san-antonio-park-police-beat-woman-delete-video-which-is-later-recovered/

5 posted on 08/02/2014 4:35:27 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: VideoDoctor; FBD; Texas Songwriter; PoloSec; DoodleDawg; editor-surveyor

bump...


6 posted on 08/02/2014 4:37:21 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Morgana

If I remember this correctly, I think he was selling loose ciggies.

Is this a reason to lose your life?

In almost every instance when a murder by cop occurs, the pigs escalate the situation.

Total, immediate, compliance or die.

If any Freeper knows any of the doosh cops involved, you should shun them.


7 posted on 08/02/2014 4:39:35 PM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: Morgana
Bad as it is, this is nothing. Just wait until obama’s Brownshirts come out in full force.

With them there won't be any investigation, suspension without pay, or any due process. They'll be carrying whatever military grade weapon they feel like and they won't spare the ammo.

8 posted on 08/02/2014 4:41:21 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

So basically the cops killed him for the possible offense of selling single cigarettes.


9 posted on 08/02/2014 4:42:10 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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10 posted on 08/02/2014 4:42:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: x1stcav

They can overlook rape or murder, but taxes go right to the bottom line.


11 posted on 08/02/2014 4:45:25 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Yeah, I left that out of my post. The ruling class gots to have candy to hand out.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 4:48:39 PM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: Morgana
now there's some real genius, ALL deaths are homicides, even suicide...

the question is, was it CRIMINAL homicide, and i don't see that in the article

13 posted on 08/02/2014 4:49:36 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Morgana

Selling untaxed cigarettes shouldn’t be a capital crime.


14 posted on 08/02/2014 4:57:26 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("World History is not full of good governments, or of good voters either "--P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Morgana

I’m always against State brutality against its citizens —

But (welcome to The War on Drugs nicotine lovers) in the end maybe it saved lives.

Think of the children! Oh who will think of the children?!


15 posted on 08/02/2014 5:05:18 PM PDT by CharleysPride (A accipitris volatu supra quinque vexillis)
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To: 1010RD
"They can overlook rape or murder, but taxes go right to the bottom line."

Do anything and everything to fund the underfunded union pensions!!! Boy, you nailed the impetus. The psychology (or psychopathy) is a whole 'nother issue!

16 posted on 08/02/2014 5:09:35 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: All

I guess being morbidly obese wasn’t a factor?


17 posted on 08/02/2014 5:11:36 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Has any President in history sunk to such a level of self-flattery & validation-seeking?)
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To: Morgana

Granted the victim/perp was in very bad health and that probably contributed greatly to his death, but the bottom line is—

“Chokeholds are a violation of department policy”

You knowingly violate a safety policy and it ends in the death of a very nonserious criminal you’re going to get some time for that.


18 posted on 08/02/2014 5:12:13 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Immigration will be a America's downfall)
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To: Morgana

he should have been an illegal immigrant, then Obama would have made the cops give him free cable and all you can eat buffets.


19 posted on 08/02/2014 5:14:30 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Immigration will be America's downfall)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

Commit a homicide and see where pleading that your victim was out of shape gets you. The judge will patiently explain what irrelevant means.


20 posted on 08/02/2014 5:17:18 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

So it’s okay for the cops to kill innocent people as long as they’re fat?


21 posted on 08/02/2014 5:24:38 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: x1stcav
If I remember this correctly, I think he was selling loose ciggies. Is this a reason to lose your life?

no, but resisting arrest is....when a person with a gun says thet you are under arrest....STFU and comply with what he/she says....

22 posted on 08/02/2014 5:37:57 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: terycarl

Bull Sh!t!

Damned enforcement class is out of control.


23 posted on 08/02/2014 5:42:36 PM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: Chode

“now there’s some real genius, ALL deaths are homicides, even suicide... the question is, was it CRIMINAL homicide, and i don’t see that in the article.”

No sir/ma’am.

Homicide: The killing of one human being by another

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homicide?s=t


24 posted on 08/02/2014 5:47:08 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: dinodino
From what I understand, this guy had been arrested something like 20 times before. There was probably some animosity/grudges involved. And watch the video, at least a couple of the cops are covered in tats, one of them has full leg sleeves — probably not the type of people we want given a badge and gun.
25 posted on 08/02/2014 5:47:15 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

And the boot licker finitely shows up.


26 posted on 08/02/2014 6:01:39 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: treetopsandroofs
yeah, yer right, it's just illegal in most states...

but they still don't say if it was considered criminal homicide

27 posted on 08/02/2014 6:18:08 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Morgana

Of course he had something like 31 priors. Sigh.


28 posted on 08/02/2014 6:23:37 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

The 5 cops dog piling on him and stopping him from breathing was a bigger factor.


29 posted on 08/02/2014 6:35:15 PM PDT by Gigantor (The Fundamentally Transformed States of America)
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To: Morgana

In most states the Coroner/Medical Examiner has only four choices:

Natural
Accidental
Suicide
Homicide


30 posted on 08/02/2014 6:36:43 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Morgana
That group of cops killed a man, a USA citizen, recorded on multiple cameras, for “illegally selling tobacco products”.

I can't see any way for the JBT supporters to possibly justify what they did to him.

At most, they should have politely issued a written notice /summons to him to appear before a court.
I don't care if it was his first or 21st summons for the same offense. No where have I seen any indication that he was physically dangerous to anyone in public, or committing anything other than regulatory “misdemeanors” .
He wasn't robbing anyone. He wasn't threatening anyone.He wasn't armed with an illegal weapon.

If anyone has any factual information that claims otherwise, I'm certain we would all love to learn of it.

But as of today, I have seen nothing but a bunch of cops killing a USA citizen, because they just didn't like his attitude against an unreasonable attempt to physically detain him for a regulatory infraction.

Why did they attempt to physically detain him?

31 posted on 08/02/2014 6:38:28 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: x1stcav
If I remember this correctly, I think he was selling loose ciggies.

NYC was losing 29 cents tax per cig. I guess we now know what life is worth in a liberal utopia.

32 posted on 08/02/2014 6:39:27 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: terycarl

The catch phrase of the blue line, “(s)he was resisting arrest”

Hand-in-hand with the ‘I was in fear of my life’ when reloading 3x filling the ‘perp’ w/ lead.

Should be changed, there is no ‘immunity’ for working w/ the gov’t when one has committed a crime. Keep the taxpayers out of the loop.


33 posted on 08/02/2014 6:56:15 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

Very sad comment. You need a serious heart check.


34 posted on 08/02/2014 7:47:41 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: x1stcav
Bull Sh!t! Damned enforcement class is out of control.

grow up, we hire these people to maintain control. If they harass you, you have recourse through the legal system....but when they say that you are under arrest, they have the right to shoot you if you do not comply....STFU and take your chances in court.

35 posted on 08/02/2014 8:24:00 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: terycarl
but when they say that you are under arrest, they have the right to shoot you if you do not comply

It never ceases to amaze me how many statist punks we have here on FREE Republic.

36 posted on 08/02/2014 8:43:45 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: miss marmelstein
Of course he had something like 31 priors. Sigh.

And? What's your point?

37 posted on 08/02/2014 8:45:48 PM PDT by wolf24
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To: MichaelCorleone

Brownshirts indeed. The subject of the Draft came up in DU, they were overwhelmingly for it to even my surprise. The left envisions a draft that looks like the peace corp, but we know it will be just brownshirts.


38 posted on 08/02/2014 9:07:10 PM PDT by IDFbunny
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
It never ceases to amaze me how many statist punks we have here on FREE Republic.

statist???, I don't think so, but we have a choice as to who is in control of our community...the authorities who we hire, or the thugs who have no responsibility to anyone....like they have in Chicago.....I'll take the cops...

39 posted on 08/02/2014 9:23:51 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Rodney Dangerfield; terycarl; miss marmelstein
The autopsy found that Garner died as a result of compression of neck, compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police.

Section 203-11 of the NYPD Patrol Guide is clear:


“Members of the New York City Police Department will not use choke holds. A choke hold shall include, but is not limited to, any pressure to the throat or windpipe, which may prevent or hinder breathing or reduce intake of air.”...
 
“... may result in both criminal and civil liability.”

“EXCESSIVE FORCE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED”


http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs2xuuKCIAABh7S.jpg:medium

http://static1.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1873029.1405826207!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/choke20n-4-web.jpg

40 posted on 08/03/2014 12:24:15 AM PDT by FBD
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My point - as a New Yorker - is that I live among creeps, ok? This guy has six kids - how many of those kids are currently in jail or on the dole?

I don’t support killing somebody over lucies (as I spell it) but this guy was a bad guy, in bad health, and he paid a price for resisting arrest. Eleanor Bumpers, anyone?


41 posted on 08/03/2014 3:36:54 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
I don’t support killing somebody over lucies...

But apparently you don't have any problem with it when it happens.

42 posted on 08/03/2014 4:07:43 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

In the immortal words of Bob Dole: stop lying about my record.


43 posted on 08/03/2014 4:08:33 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: DoodleDawg

Typical! In looking at your home page, I see you live in rural Missouri - no where near an inner city.


44 posted on 08/03/2014 4:09:54 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Typical! In looking at your home page, I see you live in rural Missouri - no where near an inner city.

I guess you figure that Kansas City has no inner city. It does, but our cops don't strangle their suspects.

45 posted on 08/03/2014 4:48:13 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: miss marmelstein
In the immortal words of Bob Dole: stop lying about my record.

I think I summed it up accurately based on your post. You said you don't support killing suspects and then went on to explain away is death and link him with some crazy woman that your police also killed.

46 posted on 08/03/2014 4:51:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

You live in rural Missouri according to what I read. I live in NYC where this occurred. If you were to look at my first post on this story, I was appalled that someone could die over a lucie. But this guy had 31 priors - he was an accident waiting to happen. Or a murder, whatever. We went through this with Eleanor Bumpers - another obese crook who died in police custody and the foul-mouthed obese pregnant woman who resisted arrest after grilling on her stoop. The obnoxious, self-defeating resisting of arrests by inner-city blacks is the constant in these stories.

I understand you are upset about police brutality but I’ll concentrate on the shooting of dogs for my outrage.


47 posted on 08/03/2014 4:56:44 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: FBD
As I recall when my older brother and sister got asthma attacks where they were young, the only thing that seemed to help, was to sit up

I remember my parents sitting up with them many a night.

48 posted on 08/03/2014 5:11:06 AM PDT by mware
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To: terycarl
statist???

YOU: ...but when they say that you are under arrest, they have the right to shoot you if you do not comply...

Yes.

49 posted on 08/03/2014 10:02:39 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: miss marmelstein

My point - as a New Yorker - is that I live among creeps, ok?
..........................................................

You belong among creeps.


50 posted on 08/03/2014 2:14:05 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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