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Police investigating incident involving Tony Stewart at N.Y. dirt track
Island Packet ^ | 8-9-14 | Jim Utter

Posted on 08/09/2014 10:16:55 PM PDT by smokingfrog

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To: machogirl

Well, unless the angle of view is deceptive, he didn’t just hit Ward with his rear tire. Ward’s directly in front of him a split second before being run down.


61 posted on 08/10/2014 1:31:27 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Two horrible decisions. One young guy dead.


62 posted on 08/10/2014 1:34:50 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think he’s alongside the car, I doubt he ran right in front of the moving car.


63 posted on 08/10/2014 1:37:41 AM PDT by Floratina
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To: machogirl

NASCAR sponsors are hard to get and hard to keep these days. Stewart may have killed his future in the sport regardless.


64 posted on 08/10/2014 1:37:46 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: machogirl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2hLUe4JCc4


65 posted on 08/10/2014 1:38:27 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: RegulatorCountry

Indeed. It’s still.speculation and there will be ample evidence. But, I’ve had enough “wrongful death” files pass over my desk to hypothesize which way the wind is blowing.

And, you are correct about a history with Stewart. I remember him standing between the track and pit lane to throw a helmet at Kennseth (Bristol maybe). Good thing Matt didn’t try to teach him a lesson if that was indeed what happened in this case and went awry.


66 posted on 08/10/2014 1:38:56 AM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Floratina

Looks like he’s in front of it to my eyes. And, even dirt track cars have steering, throttle control and brakes. There are two parties to this.


67 posted on 08/10/2014 1:39:50 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QJdBd0437U#t=40

A couple links to vids.


68 posted on 08/10/2014 1:41:45 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: Kaosinla

There will be a lot of in kind lessons in Stewart’s future, assuming he remains sponsored and viable. Mike Wallace is practically begging for sponsors. So are many others. The sport isn’t the moneymaking machine it once was.


69 posted on 08/10/2014 1:42:12 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

So, you’re saying that the kid stepped right in front of the car, in essence playing “chicken” and refused to move even when the car is close enough to touch?


70 posted on 08/10/2014 1:44:59 AM PDT by Floratina
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To: RegulatorCountry

A spokesman for Stewart provided the following statement to The Observer early Sunday morning:

   “A tragic accident took place last night during a sprint car race in which Tony Stewart was participating. Tony was unhurt but a fellow competitor lost his life. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends. We’re still attempting to sort through all the details and we appreciate your understanding during this difficult time.”

The Observer is the Charlotte Observer, the paper Jim Utter writes for in NC.


71 posted on 08/10/2014 1:46:30 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: Floratina
No, you're saying that. I'm saying that Stewart was in control of his vehicle.
72 posted on 08/10/2014 1:47:26 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BlueNgold

I’m in NC and very familiar, but thanks.


73 posted on 08/10/2014 1:48:07 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Sorry, added that as a clarifying point for the general public. Wasn’t so much to you personally. Yours was the last post in the thread when I found the statement. Grabbed you by default. Meant no offense.


74 posted on 08/10/2014 1:50:58 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: machogirl

I’m no NASCAR guy but I used to know my way around a two wheeler track on 1100cc

I don’t see how Stewart aimed for the guy....or was going faster

The guy....young fella....15 yards down track to holler and gesture at Stewart and got clipped and spun and dragged by Tony’s rear right tire...a large tire...at high speed...70 or so I’m guessing

Its an accident.....don’t run into middle of track with plenty cars still racing

Its incredible really.....dead at 20....I agree sad

The heartless here as usual might claim Darwin......but I hate when folks do that

A hunch is fans who take this stuff series and dislike Stewart anyhow will be prone to blame him cause it suits them

But the young man clearly got out of his nice ride pissed and ran into fast traffic to scold or even go Allison brothers on Stewart

And it cost him his life unfortunately


75 posted on 08/10/2014 1:55:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: RegulatorCountry

It’s difficult to ascertain from the vid., but the white/blue #45 approached slower. Then, I hear an engine accelerate (presumably Stewart’s) and then a higher speed clip on the higher line. It seems like the car was moving upwards rather than the driver walking into his direct line.


76 posted on 08/10/2014 1:56:57 AM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

You’re also assuming he has enough time to stop.


77 posted on 08/10/2014 2:01:30 AM PDT by Floratina
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To: Kaosinla

I’ve attended many a dirt track race and know that drivers do get rowdy with one another and that there are rivalries and even ongoing vendettas. It’s part of the culture. I can’t say I recall another driver being run down at speed by the car that put him into the wall. I’ve driven road courses myself. All I can say is, the Ward kid certainly lost his better judgment, his actions made his death possible. But, Stewart was in control of his vehicle. I saw no evasive move, braking or even letting off the throttle until after he’d hit him. It’s not as if he didn’t know there was a car against the wall since he put it there.


78 posted on 08/10/2014 2:03:09 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kaosinla

I watched the video 3 more times.

The poor kid just screwed up and hit the wall when pinched out by Stewart...and the flow in general

Passed off he gets out to confront Stewart while 5 cars speed by him at high speed as he dodges down track to yell at or get some one on one with Stewart

Stewart...6th car to pass by him in middle of track nails him on right side with what looked like right rear tire and after first contact Stewarts car shimmies a bit and kid is tossed

Shimmy likely due....horribly by rear tire catapulting him forwards

Unless there was earlier bad blood I don’t see why the deceased got so worked up

Second.... no way was this intentional and the first cars the boy dodged were going even faster

No charges for Stewart

Y’all can sic on me if I’m wrong

Like I said....I’m not a NASCAR fan.


79 posted on 08/10/2014 2:06:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I’m just saying that I’d be surprised in another angle turns up and shows that Ward was crazy enough to run front and center toward Stewart’s car.


80 posted on 08/10/2014 2:13:02 AM PDT by Floratina
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