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To: Citizen Zed

Exactly what we need. Another spy agency.


3 posted on 11/01/2014 7:33:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We need spies to spy on the spies.


4 posted on 11/01/2014 7:43:45 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If I remember correctly, we already have btwn 15 and 20 spy agencies, not including Algore.Intl.


8 posted on 11/01/2014 7:55:41 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Citizen Zed; gaijin
This is not necessarily a bad thing, as long as it is purely external looking and not a domestic focused entity. From the article, it does seem to be a solely external looking body.

What I find particularly interesting is that the very idea of the creation of this entity may indicate some mission/event that the Pentagon had relied on the CIA for, but the CIA did not deliver fully and/or on time. In essence, similar to the events in the late 70s during the aborted rescue of American hostages on Iran that led to the creation of the Intelligence Support Activity (ISA, or the Activity).

When the plan for the rescue mission was being formulated, the senior officers on the Army that were assembling the Delta Force mission had asked.for a.slew of.information. Information that was hard to get from the CIA at first, until somewhat later on when the guys at Langley realized that the mission was in fact going ahead. The information then provided was extremely detailed, including granular data such as the direction the windows turned at the embassy. This made the army guys realize that the CIA had been sitting on a lot of detail (allegedly because they didn't want to give sensitive information and use sources until they were certain the mission would be given a go-ahead).

Following the debacle at the desert refueling site, where a marine helicopter crashed into a parked plane and led to the whole mission getting flushed, several lessons learned were compiled. These led to the creation of several groups, such as the Army's SOAR (elite helicopter pilots that were totally dedicates to special missions so that they didn't have to rely on ill prepared pilots from other service branches), Seal Team Six (a sister group to Delta that at the time would look at tier 1 ops focusing on marine assets, eg a hijacked cruise ship or an oil rig captured by terrorists, while Delta would continue focusing on the likes of a captured aircraft or building), and of course, the ISA (for the Army to have a special dedicated and in house intelligence gathering ability that would provide fast and fully accessible intelligence).

Since then the ISA has become a premier intelligence department, and has more than proven it's usefulness and value. Many of the bad guys may not have heard of the Activity, but they should be more fearful of those guys than they are.of even Delta or.Devgru.

Anyways, it is possible that something happened that made the Pentagon push for their own CIA independent unit. We will obviously never know what, but this is quite likely the case. I don't think it is just a matter of getting money because the Pentagon already has many black book projects that are hidden from Congressional oversight, thus it must be a real reason/need.

Anyways, if the DIA is anything like the ISA, and it is fully outward looking, then it can be a force for good.

14 posted on 11/01/2014 11:02:49 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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