Anything Goes — Science advances through irrational methods.

Thunderbolts.info ^ | Nov 18, 2014 | Stephen Smith

[Moonman62]

img src="http://www.astro.washington.edu/users/balick/WFPC2/m29.model.jpeg

There is no need to resort to the Electric Universe or any other crackpot theory.

[Swordmaker]

Your #1 hit, preposterousuniverse.com, which is just some guy's blog, is hilarious as a proof of your premise.

It has on the entire linked page some replies which randomly include the words "electric," "universe," and the phrase "I am not a crackpot" in their sentences, not at all together as the cohesive phrase "Electric Universe." I am still laughing at your Googling skills.

The #2 hit is to a Yahoo question that is answered with a simple “Yeah!” with no explanation. Followed by a guy who makes the sweeping statement that electromagnetism isn’t a scalable phenomena, when it clearly is, according to all physicists who work with it, demonstrating HIS ignorance. If it were otherwise, we would not be able to see anything in the Universe,

At least #3 goes to a legitimate reasoned argument. Thanks.

#4 “The International Skeptics Forum” was quite interesting. A number of the people that were really bad mouthing the Journal that published the papers on Plasma Cosmology and its editorial board, in fact the ones who started the bad mouthing, now have “banned” under their handles. It appears they were making a concerted effort to destroy any interest in EU and Plasma Cosmology that had been published in a scientific journal. . . and the editor of the site finally called them on it.

Many of your other hits actually connect to Electric Universe sites, and on the third page, it links to this thread on FreeRepublic. LOL!

[Swordmaker]

RationalWiki - Metapedia

RationalWiki is a genetic-egalitarian race-denialist propaganda website that is run by Ontario resident Trent Toulouse. RationalWiki is a wiki founded by secular humanists in response to Conservapedia.

Hahahahah... quoting liberals now?

[Swordmaker]

There is no need to resort to the Electric Universe or any other crackpot theory.

is that "Denser barrel of older material" made of "dark matter" that is invisible and does not distort the view one iota, in any spectra at all? Strange, more magic. That is SOME hypothetical barrel. One light year in length, identical in size on BOTH sides of this star, pre-existing the exploding of the star, and just the right size. Quite a bore too. . . about a quarter light year in diameter. How did they say it was formed? Oh, they didn't. They just invoked it magically. What keeps it together, circular, and constrained? Please tell us. By the way, their "jet engine" is a plasma diagram, or didn't you know that? Where is the disk they were claiming in the other description from the APOD? No where in THIS claimed method. Where is gravity driving this? What makes up this mythical "nozzle?" WHY would these matched jets be exactly 180º opposite each other in a gravity model that is globular?Nothing about the observed object shows it to be spinning.

There is so much "smoke and mirrors" in this explanation . . . and you simply cannot see it? They have you so completely bamboozled with their brilliance. "Jet Engine" my ass. Look out for that magic wand!

[Swordmaker]

Another thread for your consideration from the European Southern Observatory:

Spooky Alignment of Quasars Across Billions of Light-years — Science Release — ESO1438

"The alignments in the new data, on scales even bigger than current predictions from simulations, may be a hint that there is a missing ingredient in our current models of the cosmos”

Amazing. . . the orthodox cosmologists are again surprised, shocked, stunned, etc., that the Universe is arrayed along threads and the galaxies are aligned. . . and they don't know how that can be possible. They think it should be random. Just amazing.

[Moonman62]

Another explanation that doesn't resort to a crackpot theory supported by nothing more than a small group of incompetent zealots who'd rather use courtroom tactics than science:

The disk can actually be seen in shorter exposure images obtained with the Hubble telescope. It measures approximately 10 times the diameter of Pluto's orbit. Models of the type that are used to design jet engines ("hydrodynamics") show that such a disk can successfully account for the jet-exhaust-like appearance of M2-9. The high-speed wind from the one of the stars rams into the surrounding disk, which serves as a nozzle. It is deflected in the perpendicular direction and forms the pair of jets that we see in the nebula's image. This is much the same process that takes place in a jet engine: the burning and expanding gases are deflected by the engine walls through a nozzle to form long, collimated jets of hot air at high speeds.

[Moonman62]

Quote from article about quasar alignment:

"A correlation between the orientation of quasars and the structure they belong to is an important prediction of numerical models of evolution of our Universe. Our data provide the first observational confirmation of this effect, on scales much larger that what had been observed to date for normal galaxies," said Dominique Sluse of the Argelander-Institut für Astronomie in Bonn, Germany and University of Liège.

http://www.hngn.com/articles/50273/20141120/quasar-alignment-shocks-scientists-in-spooky-observation.htm

There is no need to resort to a crackpot theory (Electric Universe) supported by little more than quotes from “epistemological anarchists” and Don Quixote.