I’ll be in the shower. Let me know when methane cars get here.
Hindenburg
Liberals are too stupid to even remotely grasp that hydrogen fuel is not an energy source (like oil, natural gas, solar, nuclear or wind) but a kind of battery, storing the energy from some other source as burnable hydrogen. They are too stupid to grasp this simple fact, so they think in terms of hydrogen as a solution to the problem of CO2 emissions. But since the problem itself is entirely fanciful, I guess it doesn’t matter that the proposed solution is non-existent.
Kind of reminds me of the miraculous plastic shopping bags, when they were introduced. The Environmentalists hailed them, for all of the trees they saved. 40 years on, the same crowd tells us that they are the bane of our existence.
I won’t live long enough to see it to the end, but this hydrogen car business certainly sounds like a similar scenario.
Thanks!
This is one of W’s initiatives first stated in his inaugural address.. now coopted by the scum bags. Very dependent on cheap electricity.
Just let me know when I can pump 22 gallons of distilled water into the tank and produce the hydrogen as needed.
Before that, I don’t see much future in it.
Hydrogen is explosive in concentrations from 5% to 95%.
BOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!
Lose your car, lose your wife, lose your family, lose your life.
No thank you.
I saw a demonstration of a gydrogen semi teactor trailer. Amazing. The technology works. The problem is lack f fueling stations.
Good summary of the hollowness of this latest attempt at “greenness”. Thanks.
Water they suggest? Well, yes, but it takes more energy to break apart the molecule than is given off when combined. Last I heard, it was on the order of 8-1, and maybe it's down 2-1, but unless there's an actual need for it, like in outer space, spending two or more to get one back ain't worth it, including all the capital outlay and maintenance costs.
Most - and I mean over 90% - of the water in the air comes from evaporation from oceans and lakes. The amount from human activity is insignificant. And that water goes back into lakes and oceans through precipitation. That is called the water cycle.
Yeah, and food stamps are only temporary.
If I went 300 miles as this hydrogen cell is rated to go it would cost me: 300 mi/23.5 mpg= 12.76 gals times $3.20/gal= $40.83
40.83 /300 miles = $0.136per mile. Thirteen and a half cents per mile.
Anyone have any Idea on what the per mile cost is on one of these hydrogen fuel cell cars ? -Tom
But where, that is the question (with apologies to both Shakespeare and Hamlet).
Fuel’s usefulness is primarily a matter of energy density. Hydrogen gas has a poor energy density.
At what pressure will the H2 tank be and what is the material, so as to prevent hydrogen blistering?
What can we expect to see when high-pressure H2 tank ruptures during collision?
How do they prevent H2 leakage? Car designers should talk with petroleum reformer designers.
Hydrogen cannot be turned to liquid form at ambient temperatures. It can only be stored at very low cryogenic temperatures, or at vey high pressures. Even at 10,000 psi, which is unrealistic for reasonable cost, hydrogen occupies seven times the volume of gasoline (for the same amount of energy), NOT including the tanks. There is no known technology to make cryogenic hydrogen storage safe in a collision.
Making hydrogen from water consumes much more energy than it produces. Making it from hydrocarbons produces at least as much CO2 as it saves. Even when it is produced, the infrastructure to get it into your car does not exist. Even if it did, the cost of getting the infrastructure in place would cost trillions.
Besides all this, there is no catastrophic global warming.
Of course, with Obola closing down all the coal-fired electrical plants to prevent man-caused climate disruption, the power needed to crack the water molecule in volume will be either prohibitively expensive or give the choice of hydrogen for vehicles or electricity for light and heat ... which is one reason this zany idea will fail.