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The Abortion Stereotype
ny times ^ | JAN. 2, 2015 | RAZIB KHAN

Posted on 01/03/2015 5:44:11 PM PST by Morgana

DAVIS, Calif. — IT’S been widely observed that in recent elections men have leaned Republican and women Democratic. A key element of that gender gap is often assumed to be a difference in attitudes to women’s reproductive rights.

The perception that men and women have divergent views on abortion has persisted over time. The line popularized by Gloria Steinem that “if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament” proposes that a male-female divide over this social issue is more or less a biological given.

The polling confounds such stereotypes. The General Social Survey, which has been tracking American opinions for decades, includes the question of whether a woman should be allowed to get an abortion if she “wants it for any reason.” In 17 of the 23 years that this question has been asked, men have answered “yes” to a greater extent than women. The average difference was about 1.5 percentage points — a small but consistent gender gap, if not the one people seem to expect.

So what is it about women that makes them less enthusiastic than men about abortion on demand? Again, the survey offers answers. Using a common statistical method, one can determine the effect of different variables on an outcome of interest — in this case, the odds that someone will agree or disagree with the question. This reveals that the difference between men and women is not, in fact, likely because of their sex, but because of other factors that happen to correlate with sex.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; feminanazies; prolife; stereotype
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1 posted on 01/03/2015 5:44:11 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana
Something like one in three young black men in the age group 20-29 is under criminal justice supervision at any given time -- in prison or jail, on probation or parole. They're just not marriageable, and many will never be marriageable.

The black women know that if they have any kind of prospect of a future at all (other than welfare) they'll be going it alone, most likely, without a husband, without a stable marriage and family life.

Any kind of positive life-plan --- education, career, advancement --- seems so much harder if you know you'll be raising a child / children on your own. So for them, abortion seems like the only way.

Generations have been destroyed this way. There will an accounting some day. A dreadful accounting.

2 posted on 01/03/2015 6:02:48 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light and light for darkness...)
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To: Morgana
One thing that occurs to me from time to time....what would be the reaction by the pro-death movement to a proposal to outlaw the aborting of girls (except,*maybe*,in extreme circumstances) while it would remain "open season" on boys?

Of course,"women's rights" would be the justification for that partial ban.

3 posted on 01/03/2015 6:06:17 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The only other way, AFAIK, would be interracial marriage. If you can make it work that way, more power to ya, but I wouldn’t recommend it personally.


4 posted on 01/03/2015 6:07:20 PM PST by __rvx86 (A non-trivial fear: Government by my peers. Double points if you can figure out when I was born.)
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To: Morgana
what is it about women that makes them less enthusiastic than men about abortion on demand

I'm going to go out on a limb and say, "Women are the mothers," while "Men just f****d something."

Argument, anyone?

5 posted on 01/03/2015 6:15:28 PM PST by Tax-chick (Start the new year right. Donate to Free Republic and adopt a kitten!)
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To: Tax-chick

That about sums it up.


6 posted on 01/03/2015 6:17:05 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

generalizing,

men’s nature wants to take care of himself and his ow, he just wants others to get out of his way so he can do it.

women’s nature is they want to be taken care of, and take care of others.

men lean more towards politics that match their innate nature, and so do women. more so men lean republican, and women, democrat. the exception is married women lean more republican, for obvious reasons.

the problems are this has caused socialism to grow here big time.


7 posted on 01/03/2015 6:17:32 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Tax-chick

"Abortion is the solution--- to the liberal boy's problem." - Andrea Dworkin


8 posted on 01/03/2015 6:20:19 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light and light for darkness...)
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To: __rvx86

I’ve seen a handful of very successful interracial marriages. God bless and encourage them! But there are
some big challenges that couples and their kids have to be very strong to overcome. The ones that worked (that I saw) shared a central, and indomitable, Christian faith.


9 posted on 01/03/2015 6:23:10 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Lord, save Your people and bless Your inheritance; give victory to the faithful over their adversary)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

There ya go. Hope springs eternal.


10 posted on 01/03/2015 6:25:13 PM PST by __rvx86 (A non-trivial fear: Government by my peers. Double points if you can figure out when I was born.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Morgana

Sexual immorality is the problem. Abortion is a symptom. Unmarried motherhood is a symptom. Divorce/custody disputes is a symptom. Multigenerational welfare dependency is a symptom. Child abuse is a symptom.

Does anyone want to address the problem? Show of hands ... anyone? *echo* **echo** ***echo***


11 posted on 01/03/2015 6:28:04 PM PST by Tax-chick (Start the new year right. Donate to Free Republic and adopt a kitten!)
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To: __rvx86; Mrs. Don-o

I know a number of interracial (black/white) couples, as well as Caucasian/Asian couples and Anglo/Hispanic couples.

The situation just takes determination. In a way, every married couple is a “clash of cultures.” Don’t get me started on my in-laws.


12 posted on 01/03/2015 6:30:06 PM PST by Tax-chick (Start the new year right. Donate to Free Republic and adopt a kitten!)
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To: Morgana
the question of whether a woman should be allowed to get an abortion if she “wants it for any reason.” In 17 of the 23 years that this question has been asked, men have answered “yes” to a greater extent than women.

Wow, really? Men want women to have unfettered access to abortion? That's a total SHOCK, I tell ya!

/sarc

(and for those who don't understand the /sarc, try reading the threads about teachers/older women screwing students/teen boys... the same men "high-fiving" those situations are the first to call a woman a slut in "polite" company.)

13 posted on 01/03/2015 6:41:00 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

These days, the “conservative” boy (and late-middle-aged man) wants his free fornication just as much as the liberal boy of Andrea Dworkin’s prime.


14 posted on 01/03/2015 6:45:57 PM PST by Tax-chick (Start the new year right. Donate to Free Republic and adopt a kitten!)
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To: workerbee

+1


15 posted on 01/03/2015 6:46:59 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Tax-chick

+1


16 posted on 01/03/2015 6:47:14 PM PST by thecodont
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To: __rvx86

I have encountered quite a few interracial marriages and they seem to be more likely to persist than the monoracial variety. I am not referring to any sort of arrangement that could come under the old category of “shacking up,’ but rather actual marriages proposed and stood up for and consummated. Most occurred because partners were looking for a stability they couldn’t find on their own sides of the divide.


17 posted on 01/03/2015 6:50:12 PM PST by arthurus
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To: Secret Agent Man

My wife has said for years that women should not have been given the vote.


18 posted on 01/03/2015 6:51:31 PM PST by arthurus
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To: Tax-chick

No argument her. Ever since Roe v. Wade, the so-called “right to abortion” has been the Get Out of Jail Free card for stupid irresponsible horndog guys.


19 posted on 01/03/2015 6:51:51 PM PST by Flatus I. Maximus (Obstruct. Oppose. Overthrow. Obama.)
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To: Morgana

I don’t know about this. I mean how do the conservative men and women who are pro-choice vote, how do the liberal pro-life men and women vote, and at what rate do they vote at all? Because if someone tells me they are pro-life, but all they vote for is for abortion facilitators or don’t vote at all, I kinda think we must have different standards of what ‘prolife’ must mean to each other. Or am I missing something?

Freegards


20 posted on 01/03/2015 6:52:06 PM PST by Ransomed
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