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Towers of Steel? Look Again (2013)
nytimes ^ | Published: September 23, 2013 | By HENRY FOUNTAIN

Posted on 02/01/2015 8:24:31 AM PST by dennisw

Towers of Steel? Look Again

Benton Johnson, an engineer who worked on the report, said that wooden high-rises could help solve the growing worldwide problem of providing adequate housing to the billions of people who are, or will be, living in cities — while also addressing climate change.

“We know that we need to build a lot more buildings,” Mr. Johnson said. “And we know that we need to lower CO2.”

Until now, tall wooden buildings had been championed by a handful of architects and engineers, mostly from smaller firms overseas and in Canada. They welcomed the Skidmore, Owings & Merrill report.

The movement to construct tall buildings largely with wood as an environmentally friendlier alternative to steel and concrete has received a boost from an unusual source — a leading architectural firm known for its towers of steel and concrete.

Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, the Chicago-based firm that has designed a long list of skyscrapers, including the new One World Trade Center in Lower Manhattan, has developed a structural system that uses so-called mass timber — columns and thick slabs that are laminated from smaller pieces of wood. In a report this year, the firm showed how the system could be used to build a 42-story residential tower that would have a lower carbon footprint than a conventional structure.

“We’re tall building engineers,” said William F. Baker, a partner in the firm. “We wanted to see what we can do to help on the sustainability side.” With their system, about 70 percent of the structural material is wood; most of the rest, including the foundation, is concrete.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Weather; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: agenda21; climatechangehoax; doomage; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscare; skyrise; smartgrowth; socialengineering; woodentowers
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1 posted on 02/01/2015 8:24:31 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Sure, put millions of the poor in wooden tenement structures. What could possibly go wrong?


2 posted on 02/01/2015 8:27:35 AM PST by steve8714 (Uptown Funk; Bruno Mars channels James Brown. Wow.)
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To: dennisw
“And we know that we need to lower CO2.”

Yes, and wooden skyscrapers will probably consume lots of it when they go up in flames.

3 posted on 02/01/2015 8:27:47 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: dennisw

Loved all our old wooden boats chinking and after haul out they would leak it was fun


4 posted on 02/01/2015 8:28:23 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: dennisw

Crazy concerns leading to crazy reasoning leading to crazy results.


5 posted on 02/01/2015 8:28:57 AM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: dennisw; GeronL

Might as well claim that wooden towers will keep the dragons away as well as combating man made global warming.


6 posted on 02/01/2015 8:29:57 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: dennisw

“Benton Johnson, an engineer who worked on the report, said that wooden high-rises could help solve the growing worldwide problem of providing adequate housing to the billions of people who are, or will be, living in cities — while also addressing climate change.”

“OR WILL BE...”

Right in keeping with trying to make the dream of population control/eradication come true on the part of the power elite.

Pinging whenifhow and george76!


7 posted on 02/01/2015 8:33:07 AM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: dennisw

Fire

Termites

Tenants chopping up kindling

Mold

Wood rot

Stink


8 posted on 02/01/2015 8:33:22 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: dennisw
So...cut down trees, which consume CO2, in order to "save" Earth from the "pollutant" CO2.

Got it. Leftists are retarded.

9 posted on 02/01/2015 8:34:22 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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“And we know that we need to lower CO2.”

All based on a false premise. And every bit of it is wrong.

10 posted on 02/01/2015 8:37:21 AM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Sirius Lee

Those trees that we couldn’t use for grocery bags. Now we can’t plastic bags that replaced the paper ones.


11 posted on 02/01/2015 8:37:43 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: dennisw

The premise is bogus.

Don’t poor people already live in buildings made out of wood?

Additionally the premise that CO2 is a problem is also bogus.


12 posted on 02/01/2015 8:37:54 AM PST by aquila48
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To: bgill

Ok, I see that...Now what’s the downside?


13 posted on 02/01/2015 8:38:25 AM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: dennisw

More importantly, we need to concern ourselves with the threat of starfrost blinkers and build phaluzalas out of billycorn shoots.


14 posted on 02/01/2015 8:42:09 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dennisw

Lower CO2 levels ?

I would think all these libtards could help by just stop breathing CO2 out....

Be part of the solution...libtards..


15 posted on 02/01/2015 8:42:32 AM PST by Popman
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To: Sirius Lee
So...cut down trees, which consume CO2, in order to "save" Earth from the "pollutant" CO2. Got it. Leftists are retarded.
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16 posted on 02/01/2015 8:43:03 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: steve8714
Sure, put millions of the poor in wooden tenement structures. What could possibly go wrong?

Termites? And the walls come tumbling down....

17 posted on 02/01/2015 8:47:02 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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When the lady upstairs puts on her heels and traverses to the kitchen, the downstairs neighbors know it. Don’t even get me started on children. They run everywhere.

Having lived in a wooden 5 story wooden over concrete garage mid rise in Colorado.


18 posted on 02/01/2015 8:53:05 AM PST by cicero2k
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To: dennisw

yes, for those that think CO is a huge problem, i recommend living only in tall wood frame buildings, especially in San Francisco and LA


19 posted on 02/01/2015 8:53:21 AM PST by Reverend Wright (Go Nigel !)
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To: dennisw; george76; Whenifhow; DakotaGator; Sirius Lee

As noted above, the premise is wrong. Using wood won’t control CO2. Mammals breath in oxygen, and exhale CO2. Trees breath in CO2 and exhale oxygen. I don’t think Benton Johnson has studied the oxygen/CO2 cycle.

Environmentalists have been (perhaps rightly) seeking to prevent the wholesale cutting down of the rain forests. What does Benton think wooden towers would call for? Wood, right? Where are the most abundant supplies? You guessed it, boys and girls... THE RAINFORESTS!” What happens to the planet if the largest oxygen producers are all cut down in the name of reducing CO2? You got it right again! CO2 BUILDS UP IN THE ABSENCE OF THE TREES!!!!! This would create the very situation he claims he is trying to alleviate.

The “logic” of the left always trips up all over itself, leading to disaster, if allowed to be put into manifestation. There is a reason why one of the most popular treatises before the US Revolution was a thing called “Common Sense.”

(Sorry, george76 and whenifhow, I meant to ping you to my post 7 on this thread!)


20 posted on 02/01/2015 8:53:57 AM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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