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Codpieces seen on hit BBC drama Wolf Hall were twice as small as they should have been so [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 1, 2015 | Sam Matthew

Posted on 05/01/2015 7:10:28 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: C19fan

It just goes to show you the liberal rewrite of history. It their best effort to tell about what they do not understand.


21 posted on 05/01/2015 7:51:42 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: C19fan

The first time she saw a man nude,
Said a diffident young lady named Wood:
.. “I’m glad I’m the sex
.. That’s concave, not convex
For I don’t fancy things that protrude.”


22 posted on 05/01/2015 8:06:05 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Wouldn’t that be a “sports cup?” worn inside the jock strap?


23 posted on 05/01/2015 8:13:49 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If each day is a gift, can we get a refund on the bad ones?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

He’s ready to go noodling ,, but please remind him the hand goes in the mouth...


24 posted on 05/01/2015 8:51:34 AM PDT by Neidermeyer ("Our courts should not be collection agencies for crooks." — John Waihee, Governor of Hawaii, 1986-)
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To: proxy_user

These cod pieces are much ado about nothing.


25 posted on 05/01/2015 8:54:02 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: C19fan

Next time they do this they need to contact an expert. Gene has 40 plus years of experience wearing the proper size codpiece...

26 posted on 05/01/2015 8:59:38 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Steve_Seattle
I don’t remember how the topic came up, but a few months ago my girlfriend and I were wondering if anyone still manufactures codpieces. I don’t think they have them at Sears or J.C. Penney. :-)

But they do on Amazon.

27 posted on 05/01/2015 9:07:10 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: C19fan

I only watch the show, because there are no more ‘Foyle’s War’, ‘Inspector Gently’, ‘DCI Banks’ is a joke reminiscent of the affair side of ‘Hill Street Blues’, and on ‘Death in Paradise’ they killed off the more likeable stuck-in-the-boonies-city-denizen-cop.

PBS wants $30.00 for the DVD ... no thanks. Since PBS has such a wonderful standing with the Demo, er, Communist Party, i won’t be sending them any money soon.


28 posted on 05/01/2015 12:25:15 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: C19fan
Edmond Blackadder's "Black Russian"


29 posted on 05/01/2015 4:43:49 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: C19fan
Crap, wrong url...try again

Edmond Blackadder's "Black Russian"


30 posted on 05/01/2015 4:47:45 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Terry L Smith
If you have SHOWTIME on cable, you can watch all 4 seasons of The Tudors.

Just a warning some of the episodes are really graphic. I didn't sleep for two nights after watching Thomas Cromwell torture a guy to death.

31 posted on 05/01/2015 4:52:52 PM PDT by mware
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To: mware
If you have SHOWTIME on cable, you can watch all 4 seasons of The Tudors.

Being a big fan of that period of history, I tried watching some of The Tudors - tried being the operative word. It wasn’t the sex scenes or the violence that offended me; it was the gross historical inaccuracies and very poor casting choices. But the costumes and music were nice. : ) But basically it came off to me not as a historical drama but more like “The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” in period costume.

IMO one of the best depictions of Henry VIII was the 1970 BBC series “The Six Wives of Henry VIII” with Keith Michell as Henry VIII.

Although I will say that I have enjoyed watching Wolf Hall and think Damian Lewis is very good in the role of Henry VIII.

32 posted on 05/01/2015 5:39:05 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

I never picks up Damian Lewis accent when he played Dick Winters in Band of Brothers.


33 posted on 05/01/2015 6:02:50 PM PDT by mware
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I think the size of the codpieces portrayed in the series were not necessarily historically inaccurate.

For one thing, in the article, they compared and contrasted a picture of Henry VIII from the series Wolf Hall compared to a Renaissance portrait, inferring that the latter would have been what Henry would have actually worn.

However the picture of the man with the rather prominent codpiece was not of Henry VIII but a portrait of an Italian man of unknown origins named Antonio Navagero – 1565.

http://european-art.findthedata.com/l/19963/Portrait-of-Antonio-Navagero

Of all the paintings of Henry VIII painted during his lifetime, I’ve not found one to portray him as wearing such a huge codpiece as this “historian” would suggest as being “accurate” for the time. One also has to consider that some portraits of the time tended to exaggerate certain desirable male features or even play down, especially in the portraits of women, their attractiveness in exchange for a more “pious” and serious appearance.

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1280&bih=614&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Art+%26+Henry+VIII+%26+period+paintings&oq=Art+%26+Henry+VIII+%26+period+paintings&gs_l=img.3...45477.48047.0.48487.9.9.0.0.0.0.190.924.4j4.8.0.msedr...0...1c.1.64.img..9.0.0.yvndB90u30A

Also it should be understood that English and Italian and French fashions of the time, even among the Royals and the moneyed class who could afford to have portraits painted of themselves, were not all the same. IIRC, one of the many criticisms levied against Anne Boleyn during her brief reign as Queen was her fondness of French fashions and of all things “French”.

Second, they criticized the casting of the actress portraying Jane Seymour as being “too pretty” because she didn’t look exactly like the portrait painted by Hans Holbein. But I think looking at the pictures of the actress and the Holbein painting, I’d say the casting was pretty good. Is Kate Phillips “prettier” than Jane Seymour was? Perhaps, but given that Holbein was commissioned by Henry to paint a portrait of Anne of Cleves before agreeing to marry her, it has been alleged, perhaps falsely, that upon meeting her in person for the first time, that Henry was greatly disappointed because she was not nearly as attractive as her portrait.

However it was probably or at least just as much a matter of changes in the political landscape and second thoughts about aligning with the German Protestants, who were in actuality, much more radical in their religious reformations than what Henry was comfortable with; even with his break from Rome, he was not necessarily a great “reformer” in religious terms, but more interested in exercising his “rights” as sovereign King over matters he thought were not to be decided by the Pope.

There were also questions surrounding Anne of Cleves previous marriage commitment, whether in Henry’s eyes, that meant she was as good as being an already married woman. But whatever the reasons, her lack of beauty, politics or religion, evidently Henry was not able or willing to consummate his marriage to Anne of Cleves and in her own best interests, she agreed to a divorce and relegation to being the King’s “sister” and given some property and a stipend on which to live out her years, and in this she fared better than most of Henry’s 6 wives.

http://www.oocities.org/tudorhist/tudor.htm

As to the codpieces, here is another “view” as it were:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqeraa_96BE

And costume design:

Tudor fashion on show at Wolf Hall

34 posted on 05/01/2015 7:24:57 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: mware
I never picks up Damian Lewis accent when he played Dick Winters in Band of Brothers.

Having watched Band of Brothers, I never would have guessed that Damian Lewis was a “Brit” had I not heard him interviewed.

I’m not sure why it is, but it seems to me that more British actors can successfully pull off a convincing American dialect than American actors can successfully pull off a convincing British dialect.

35 posted on 05/01/2015 7:32:33 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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dear mware,
I went to cable, when the FCC, under the Obama administration, decided that my beloved analog 20-inch tv/dvd player was no longer of any use.
I do NOT use any ‘subscription’ channels, such as ‘showtime’, because my cable/internet bill is over $140.00, and i am sure it will climb, in due time, again.

As to graphic ... I found my teenage sweetheart’s dad - after he pulled the trigger on his shotgun; I’m a Viet/Cold War vet; I’ve seen public executions in Thailand.

Torture is NOT about what someone is doing to the other, it is only a method; it is the power over that other person; the knowledge that you CAN do anything, over that other person, without any permission; and then, if there be any other motive, having that satiated, for the moment.


36 posted on 05/02/2015 5:51:20 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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