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One of the reasons I am not enamored with the Tudor period.
1 posted on 05/01/2015 7:10:28 AM PDT by C19fan
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That’s why there are no more Tudors..................;^)


2 posted on 05/01/2015 7:12:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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I clinked on the link thinking it was about one of my favorite white fish.


3 posted on 05/01/2015 7:12:17 AM PDT by PGR88
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Cod pieces?


4 posted on 05/01/2015 7:12:39 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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Shouldn’t they be called “troutpieces” instead?


6 posted on 05/01/2015 7:13:56 AM PDT by Wolfie
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What the heck is “twice as small”? Is that an idiot’s way of saying half as large?


7 posted on 05/01/2015 7:14:02 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Cruz-ing to January 20, 2017!)
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Henery VIII armor, on display at the Tower of London. Evidently he loved battle.

9 posted on 05/01/2015 7:16:26 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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“Seest thou not, I say, what a deformed thief this fashion is,
How giddily he turns about all the hot bloods between
Fourteen and five-and-thirty, sometimes fashioning them
Like Pharaoh’s soldiers in the reechy painting, sometime
Like god Bel’s priests in the old church-window, sometime
Like the shaven Hercules in the smirched worm-eaten
Tapestry, where his codpiece seems as massy as his club?


10 posted on 05/01/2015 7:18:16 AM PDT by proxy_user
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Half the size, one fourth the size...well one of those..

BTW is this item of clothing like stuffing a bra ???

:)


13 posted on 05/01/2015 7:22:22 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Victoria Miller, who has researched the codpiece for her PHD

And her loyal research assistant, Harry Merkin.

15 posted on 05/01/2015 7:25:11 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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I don’t remember how the topic came up, but a few months ago my girlfriend and I were wondering if anyone still manufactures codpieces. I don’t think they have them at Sears or J.C. Penney. :-)


17 posted on 05/01/2015 7:27:43 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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If ya got it, flaunt it. Just don’t step on it.


18 posted on 05/01/2015 7:28:37 AM PDT by IronJack
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‘Twice as small’??? Pet peeve of mine: multiplication is for positive results; wouldn’t it be ‘one half the size of’? Just wondering


19 posted on 05/01/2015 7:35:36 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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It just goes to show you the liberal rewrite of history. It their best effort to tell about what they do not understand.


21 posted on 05/01/2015 7:51:42 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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The first time she saw a man nude,
Said a diffident young lady named Wood:
.. “I’m glad I’m the sex
.. That’s concave, not convex
For I don’t fancy things that protrude.”


22 posted on 05/01/2015 8:06:05 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Next time they do this they need to contact an expert. Gene has 40 plus years of experience wearing the proper size codpiece...

26 posted on 05/01/2015 8:59:38 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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I only watch the show, because there are no more ‘Foyle’s War’, ‘Inspector Gently’, ‘DCI Banks’ is a joke reminiscent of the affair side of ‘Hill Street Blues’, and on ‘Death in Paradise’ they killed off the more likeable stuck-in-the-boonies-city-denizen-cop.

PBS wants $30.00 for the DVD ... no thanks. Since PBS has such a wonderful standing with the Demo, er, Communist Party, i won’t be sending them any money soon.


28 posted on 05/01/2015 12:25:15 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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Edmond Blackadder's "Black Russian"


29 posted on 05/01/2015 4:43:49 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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Crap, wrong url...try again

Edmond Blackadder's "Black Russian"


30 posted on 05/01/2015 4:47:45 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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I think the size of the codpieces portrayed in the series were not necessarily historically inaccurate.

For one thing, in the article, they compared and contrasted a picture of Henry VIII from the series Wolf Hall compared to a Renaissance portrait, inferring that the latter would have been what Henry would have actually worn.

However the picture of the man with the rather prominent codpiece was not of Henry VIII but a portrait of an Italian man of unknown origins named Antonio Navagero – 1565.

http://european-art.findthedata.com/l/19963/Portrait-of-Antonio-Navagero

Of all the paintings of Henry VIII painted during his lifetime, I’ve not found one to portray him as wearing such a huge codpiece as this “historian” would suggest as being “accurate” for the time. One also has to consider that some portraits of the time tended to exaggerate certain desirable male features or even play down, especially in the portraits of women, their attractiveness in exchange for a more “pious” and serious appearance.

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1280&bih=614&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Art+%26+Henry+VIII+%26+period+paintings&oq=Art+%26+Henry+VIII+%26+period+paintings&gs_l=img.3...45477.48047.0.48487.9.9.0.0.0.0.190.924.4j4.8.0.msedr...0...1c.1.64.img..9.0.0.yvndB90u30A

Also it should be understood that English and Italian and French fashions of the time, even among the Royals and the moneyed class who could afford to have portraits painted of themselves, were not all the same. IIRC, one of the many criticisms levied against Anne Boleyn during her brief reign as Queen was her fondness of French fashions and of all things “French”.

Second, they criticized the casting of the actress portraying Jane Seymour as being “too pretty” because she didn’t look exactly like the portrait painted by Hans Holbein. But I think looking at the pictures of the actress and the Holbein painting, I’d say the casting was pretty good. Is Kate Phillips “prettier” than Jane Seymour was? Perhaps, but given that Holbein was commissioned by Henry to paint a portrait of Anne of Cleves before agreeing to marry her, it has been alleged, perhaps falsely, that upon meeting her in person for the first time, that Henry was greatly disappointed because she was not nearly as attractive as her portrait.

However it was probably or at least just as much a matter of changes in the political landscape and second thoughts about aligning with the German Protestants, who were in actuality, much more radical in their religious reformations than what Henry was comfortable with; even with his break from Rome, he was not necessarily a great “reformer” in religious terms, but more interested in exercising his “rights” as sovereign King over matters he thought were not to be decided by the Pope.

There were also questions surrounding Anne of Cleves previous marriage commitment, whether in Henry’s eyes, that meant she was as good as being an already married woman. But whatever the reasons, her lack of beauty, politics or religion, evidently Henry was not able or willing to consummate his marriage to Anne of Cleves and in her own best interests, she agreed to a divorce and relegation to being the King’s “sister” and given some property and a stipend on which to live out her years, and in this she fared better than most of Henry’s 6 wives.

http://www.oocities.org/tudorhist/tudor.htm

As to the codpieces, here is another “view” as it were:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqeraa_96BE

And costume design:

Tudor fashion on show at Wolf Hall

34 posted on 05/01/2015 7:24:57 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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