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To: SunkenCiv

Question: The Philistines are said to come from Crete. However in the Table of Nations, they are said to be descendants of Ham. They seem to have adopted some of the Greek Culteral aspects, but is it a stretch to say they were probably darker complected Hamites that were driven out of Crete by the Mycaean Greeks?


10 posted on 05/30/2015 2:37:27 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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I think the Philistines were one branch of the Sea People who included/were best known after settling down as the Carthaginians. The Sea People were particularly active a few centuries before the date of this find.


13 posted on 05/30/2015 11:07:17 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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The KJV refers to them under two different names, saying they came from Caphtor; however, as Velikovsky pointed out, if Caphtor doesn't refer to Cyprus, there is no name in the Bible for that nearby large island. The Biblical term Cherethites ('keret-tites') refers to Cretans. The Egyptians referred to Caphtor (Cyprus) as Keftiu (Kftyw).

The Philistines seem to have changed, culturally, linguisitically, and probably ethnically, over a period of centuries (who doesn't?), with olive oil presses and Greek pottery styles later on, at least one non-Semitic king name (all 7th c BC).
Giving Goliath His Due:
New Archaeological Light on the Philistines

by Neal Bierling
foreword by Paul L. Maier
online version
The name Goliath, like Achish, is not Semitic, but rather Anatolian (McCarter 1980, 291, Mitchell 1967, 415; Wainwright 1959, 79). Not all agree though; the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (2:524) proposes that Goliath may have been a remnant of one of the aboriginal groups of giants of Palestine who now were in the employ of the Philistines. [1. Naveh (1985, 9, 13 n. 14) states that Ikausu, the name of the king of Ekron in the seventh century b.c., is a non-Semitic name that can be associated with that of the Achish of Gath in David's time. The name in the seventh century has a shin ending that is non-West Semitic.]
(there's a later edition of the work, although I'm not sure it's still in print, the publisher was acquired)
15 posted on 05/31/2015 5:41:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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